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Title: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 12, 2011, 01:12:07 PM
Rapid prototyping has been around a while, but this takes it further.

Notice something familiar on the table at the beginning?

3D Printer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw&feature=youtu.be#normal)


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: the_Journeyman on July 12, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
Noticed what looked like a Duc head.

JM


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Goat_Herder on July 12, 2011, 01:56:18 PM
Rapid prototyping sure has come a long ways.  10 years ago in engineering school, we had just learned about it and had a machine in the lab.  There was no scanning.  Everything had to be drawn with a 3D graphic program first.  It was quite time consuming. 

I remember it used some sort of liquid plastic or solution and was harden by laser or light, layer by layer.  Laser hardens the top layer of the solution; the hardened layer drops down, the top is cover by more solution and the next layer is drawn.  So on and so forth.  It would take hours, if not days for a product to be "drawn".




Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Speedbag on July 12, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
Rapid prototyping sure has come a long ways.  10 years ago in engineering school, we had just learned about it and had a machine in the lab.  There was no scanning.  Everything had to be drawn with a 3D graphic program first.  It was quite time consuming.  

I remember it used some sort of liquid plastic or solution and was harden by laser or light, layer by layer.  Laser hardens the top layer of the solution; the hardened layer drops down, the top is cover by more solution and the next layer is drawn.  So on and so forth.  It would take hours, if not days for a product to be "drawn".


+1

We use RP at work every so often for prototype show-and-tell scenarios. Back when I was thinking of producing billet Duc 2V high-port heads I planned on RP'ing a set after the design was complete to flow test.

3D laser scanners can cut out a ton of time if you need to make a quick copy of something existing.

There's even a rig out there that will produce rubbery parts.

Neat stuff.  8)


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: aaronb on July 12, 2011, 02:47:21 PM
i did FSAE in college and the engine team made an SLS intake manifold.  all one piece with contoured runners and velocity stacks inside the Plenum.  it was pretty slick.  IIRC the material was porous, so it was saturated in some sort of resin and then painted. 


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: TiNi on July 12, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
neato  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: mitt on July 12, 2011, 06:44:45 PM
I use 3d laser scanners (both mobile and gantry) and 3d printers weekly.  We also use CT scans for getting parts inside parts.  We have had several printer versions over the years, with objet being the most recent.  They definitely have their role in communicating ideas and reverse engineering. 

mitt


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Latinbalar on July 13, 2011, 06:58:32 AM
What i like about this 3DRP is that i make the moving parts in one shot. Like that 2v head on the table. it came out in one print and actually works.  So if the expoxy can handle the head and pressure just slap on and go.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 13, 2011, 07:07:06 AM
New race class. . .

all plastic engines


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Hank025 on July 13, 2011, 08:06:32 AM
@ 52 seconds is that a Desmodronic  model?


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 13, 2011, 08:09:30 AM
Yep :)


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: triangleforge on July 13, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
That's super cool!!! I was blown away just the other day when we brought our daughter in to the dentist & she needed a crown (blown away by the bill, yes, but that's not what I'm talking about). He used a system I'd never seen before that recorded a 3D map of the original tooth, of the remaining portion after most of it was drilled away, and the corresponding "bite" of the tooth above it. He tweaked it a bit to eliminate spots that the program indicated might be too tight or too loose, and sent the file to a little CNC 3D mill that carved out a perfect-fit crown in about a minute. I was like  :o


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 13, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
^
That is make the beast with two backsing awesome.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: spolic on July 13, 2011, 02:21:23 PM
That's super cool!!! I was blown away just the other day when we brought our daughter in to the dentist & she needed a crown (blown away by the bill, yes, but that's not what I'm talking about). He used a system I'd never seen before that recorded a 3D map of the original tooth, of the remaining portion after most of it was drilled away, and the corresponding "bite" of the tooth above it. He tweaked it a bit to eliminate spots that the program indicated might be too tight or too loose, and sent the file to a little CNC 3D mill that carved out a perfect-fit crown in about a minute. I was like  :o

I've got to get a new dentist.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: triangleforge on July 14, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
I've got to get a new dentist.

My last dentist was definitely lower tech than our daughter's; in addition to the 15 year old dental equipment, including X-ray equipment that pumped out lord knows how much radiation, he was too cheap to hire a receptionist, so kept hopping up through the whole process of my double root canal to answer the phone... But he took whatever my skinflint dental insurance paid and didn't charge me above that, so I can't say I complained a lot.

And the most recent XKCD sees the future:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/3d_printer.png)
http://xkcd.com/924/ (http://xkcd.com/924/)


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: thought on July 14, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
New race class. . .

all plastic engines

till someone switches in some e10 and the whole grid blows up...

and if you're interested in this stuff, you should read a book called makers by cory doctorow... it's a sci fi book that postulates how the world would be if cheap 3d printers became the norm.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: mitt on July 14, 2011, 05:21:13 PM
I love the cartoon.  I had to print it out (2d) and carry it around the office.


mitt


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: DesmoDiva on July 15, 2011, 03:46:29 AM
I suppose now would be too late to tell you that you were within 1,500 ft of two different models of said printing devices when lending me a hand a couple weekends ago.

There are two in the Architecture department at UB.  B has made many things on them.   [thumbsup]

They came after my time there.   :(



Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: mitt on July 15, 2011, 05:32:57 AM
If you want your RP parts out of metal:


Direct Metal Laser Sintering - DMLS - By GPI Prototype (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88BPmL8cGAo#normal)


nevermind the first minute if you don't like cheesy acting.


mitt


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 15, 2011, 07:18:23 AM
That's pretty cool right there


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: thought on July 15, 2011, 07:39:33 AM
screw metal, print it out of chocolate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14030720 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14030720)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53873000/jpg/_53873815_chocprinter.jpg)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53874000/jpg/_53874236_chocprinted.jpg)


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Monsterlover on July 15, 2011, 08:15:21 AM
the ante has been upped!


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Howley on July 16, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
If you want your RP parts out of metal:


Direct Metal Laser Sintering - DMLS - By GPI Prototype (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88BPmL8cGAo#normal)


nevermind the first minute if you don't like cheesy acting.


mitt

He's clearly called someone in his own office, same desks, same phones, same general office decor.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: Speedbag on July 16, 2011, 07:09:15 AM
the ante has been upped!

Until they can do it with bacon.


Title: Re: 3D printing
Post by: The Bacon Junkie on July 21, 2011, 10:19:23 PM
Until they can do it with bacon.

THIS!!!   :D




 [bacon]


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