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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: scduc on July 16, 2011, 04:57:47 PM

Title: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: scduc on July 16, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
Whats the best way (with out breaking the bank) to improve upon the suspension. I am 250lbs with gear, but in the process of getting down to 200lbs.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: DarkStaR on July 16, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
Don't you think it'll be a waste of money to do before you loose the weight?
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: Ducatiloo on July 17, 2011, 07:11:11 PM
What I've done, and what I've seen work best is to buy a used SBK rear shock and put a new spring on it.
You could try to put a heaver weight of oil in your forks for the front.  Otherwise I've put 749 forks on mike S2R.  The biggest issue was that the top triple has two small of diameter.  You could either bore them out or I went with an aftermarket top triple.
I was able to get all my setup done for around $300.   I did all the labor myself and it took some time on ebay to find the right deal.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: The Bearded Duc on July 19, 2011, 12:57:36 AM
The cheapest way to go would be heavier springs and new oil up front and a heavier spring out back. If you have someone do it for you it will cost somewhere around $300.

I kind of agree with DarkStaR though, 50 lbs is a lot of weight to have on the bike and will most certainly change the rate of spring you need.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: corey on July 19, 2011, 09:38:12 AM
dont waste your time on the stock forks.
do an SBK swap, it's relatively simple and there is a lot of support and research done for you already.
you'd need the right set of forks (any superbike  side from 749/999, although the work as well with a couple of small caliper spacers), a top triple clamp that is 53mm (as stated, bore the stocker or buy aftermarket), shims for the lower triple (many sources available, sodapop cans work apparently), and either some bar risers, or clipon handle bars (risers are easier, clipons are the shit).

i got my swap done for about $1300... but that was with a set of freshly rebuilt 999 forks with Ohlins UES valving. You can pick up SBK forks for MUCH cheaper.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: The Bearded Duc on July 19, 2011, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: corey on July 19, 2011, 09:38:12 AM
dont waste your time on the stock forks.
do an SBK swap, it's relatively simple and there is a lot of support and research done for you already.
you'd need the right set of forks (any superbike  side from 749/999, although the work as well with a couple of small caliper spacers), a top triple clamp that is 53mm (as stated, bore the stocker or buy aftermarket), shims for the lower triple (many sources available, sodapop cans work apparently), and either some bar risers, or clipon handle bars (risers are easier, clipons are the shit).

i got my swap done for about $1300... but that was with a set of freshly rebuilt 999 forks with Ohlins UES valving. You can pick up SBK forks for MUCH cheaper.

I wouldn't call upgrading the springs and oil on stock forks a waste of time.

Obviously upgrading the entire front end is ideal but it's still gonna be a minimum of $500 for just the forks to be set up. I guess it really depends on what the OP considers "breaking the bank". It also depends on the style of riding. Upgrading to a $1300 front end is the tits and I would love to do it myself, but it's a little excessive, IMO, for commuting with some spirited twisty jaunts.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: booger on July 19, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
Pull your forks and send them to Race Tech, GP Suspension, Traxxion Dynamics, etc. I think people here are thinking you have the shitty nonadjustable forks a la S2R800. You have the shitty adjustable forks a la S2R1000. Difference is, you don't have to throw your stock forks in the trash. It's a lot easier to make something out of those forks than with the nonadjustable Marzocchis they put on the smaller bikes. Lose your weight, then get them reworked to suit. SBK forks are nice but you already have something to work with at least. Cheaper in the end I think.
Title: Re: 08' S2R suspension?
Post by: corey on July 20, 2011, 05:49:33 AM
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 19, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
Pull your forks and send them to Race Tech, GP Suspension, Traxxion Dynamics, etc. I think people here are thinking you have the shitty nonadjustable forks a la S2R800. You have the shitty adjustable forks a la S2R1000. Difference is, you don't have to throw your stock forks in the trash. It's a lot easier to make something out of those forks than with the nonadjustable Marzocchis they put on the smaller bikes. Lose your weight, then get them reworked to suit. SBK forks are nice but you already have something to work with at least. Cheaper in the end I think.

yup. thought we were talking 800 here. i think the "'08" made me subconsciously think it.
if we're talking 1000, then obviously the showa forks are much better off in the beginning than working with the marzocchi's from the 800.