Not wee li'l garden ones either, but larger ones with PTO's, and various farm type attachments. I need something that can run a mower for some rather nasty terrain, a post hole digger, and ideally some sort of bucket attachment. What should I be looking at?
4WD diesel compact utility
John Deere! ;D We used to have one with all them attachments... course, I cant recall the model or anything like that... I mean I was in high school... and the only think I still recall from that... is how to undo a bra by snapping my fingers behind her back.... [thumbsup]
Quote from: ryandalling on July 28, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
John Deere! ;D We used to have one with all them attachments... course, I cant recall the model or anything like that... I mean I was in high school... and the only think I still recall from that... is how to undo a bra by snapping my fingers behind her back.... [thumbsup]
So long as it's green I should buy it? :P
John Deere for the last 5-7 years no longer uses anything motor wise but Kawasaki in em...
look for anything with a Kohler motor...or a Kubota!
I was more thinking this : http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/2507285670.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/2507285670.html)
+1 for Kubota
Not exactly cheap but good tractors
SO we're on to orange over green.
Anything I should check other than color? That's sort of what I'm looking for. I don't actually know how they work so other than checking out the motor I'll be fairly lost.
The tractor in your link in 2wd, I believe you would be much happier with 4wd depending on how rough the terrain is.
My dad has a Belarus 250 or 420 not exactly sure want model for use around the family camp. It's a bit over kill for 2.75 acres, but he has never had any issues with it. Looks similar to this:
(http://www.tractorhouse.com/images/Tractor/fullsize/85016382.jpg)
On the horse farm I worked at, they had two Ford 4wd tractors; small and large. Drove the small one a bunch. Easy to manuver and dead realiable, even on -20 mornings.
Good luck!
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 08:25:53 AM
I was more thinking this : http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/2507285670.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/2507285670.html)
No good for very rough terrain, and they can get stuck on flat ground if it's slippery enough.
The slowest speed is too fast for roto tilling, and almost too fast for brush hogging in tight spots.
As much as I like the old iron the new 4wd compact stuff is much more suited to what you're talking about. They are, however, much easier to break than an old tractor.
They're pretty much all the same...made in Asia...and mostly suited to light duty work pto work because they're not built to pull stuff like the old iron.
I'm pretty sure you just told me I need two tractors. :D
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 08:40:42 AM
SO we're on to orange over green.
Anything I should check other than color?
Cupholders and an MP3 jack.
Make sure it'll wheelie. That's key for getting over dead logs.
Oh right...no MP3 Jack.
8-Track player for you.
I'd look into Case IH. A good buddy of mine is the NE tech rep for Case and he knows his stuff. PM me if you'd like his contact info.
Belgian Team Logging (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kkwhYok8yE&feature=related#normal)
Maybe some green horsepower
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 07:54:32 AM
Not wee li'l garden ones either, but larger ones with PTO's, and various farm type attachments. I need something that can run a mower for some rather nasty terrain, a post hole digger, and ideally some sort of bucket attachment. What should I be looking at?
<shakes head in disappointment>
Implements man
not attachments
(this rounds out my knowledge of farm equipment)
I need a tractor too
BTW....for post hole digging...I just initially use a shovel and finish with a quarter stick of dynomite...but maybe that is just me?!?!?!?
Quote from: zooom on July 28, 2011, 01:44:02 PM
BTW....for post hole digging...I just initially use a shovel and finish with a quarter stick of dynomite...but maybe that is just me?!?!?!?
Er-I have several acres to fence, and plenty of post holes needed.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 01:47:46 PM
Er-I have several acres to fence, and plenty of post holes needed.
so.....sounds like you need to run a series of them so they all go off at once...you don't need to dig deep...
Quote from: zooom on July 28, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
so.....sounds like you need to run a series of them so they all go off at once...you don't need to dig deep...
No, it really doesn't. I don't futz around with explosives. I'll use the future tractor or do it by hand.
Deere are nice, but parts can be a pain to get, and JD specific. Kubota is as good IMHO, a little less money, a little easier on service. Most wheels can be turned to give you a wider stance which it sounds like you'll want, so check on that. Get hydrostatic drive, you will want it, same with 4WD. Size the implements you want before you get the tractor, the PTO HP is pretty important. You'll want a Cat 1 3 point hitch, gotta have the front loader and if you aren't going to keep something heavy on the back full time you'll need a ballast box or something, or you'llo be doing endo's any time you try to pick something up.
Once you figure out what size you need, get the next bigger ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
I'm pretty sure you just told me I need two tractors. :D
You've already got one tractor.
You just need to get the right one for these new tasks.
:-*
Quote from: Speeddog on July 28, 2011, 03:20:27 PM
You've already got one tractor.
You just need to get the right one for these new tasks.
:-*
I sold that beast. I change vehicles like I change my shirt.
Monthly.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 28, 2011, 10:11:24 AM
I'm pretty sure you just told me I need two tractors. :D
...and the problem would be?
I would go with a BMW tractor like the one you've been sporting for a while now.
On a more serious note, If you have hardpan or otherwise hard ground, you are going to need weight. I just rented a little Kubota to do my driveway in soft dirt and it was barley adequate. A D9 it was not! So IMO more hefty is better.
I kept wanting more dig and the blade would lift the front wheels and not do the job, so I had to keep finding the fine line between just enough blade in the dirt, and doing not much of anything.
A friend of mine who owns one has the same problem. The mower attachment kits butt though.
So when you get the BMW tractor, pics please.
Quote from: D Paoli on July 28, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
I would go with a BMW tractor like the one you've been sporting for a while now.
On a more serious note, If you have hardpan or otherwise hard ground, you are going to need weight. I just rented a little Kubota to do my driveway in soft dirt and it was barley adequate. A D9 it was not! So IMO more hefty is better.
I kept wanting more dig and the blade would lift the front wheels and not do the job, so I had to keep finding the fine line between just enough blade in the dirt, and doing not much of anything.
A friend of mine who owns one has the same problem. The mower attachment kits butt though.
So when you get the BMW tractor, pics please.
Tractor buckets are not really digging tools.
They're more for moving already dug material that is in piles.
He really needs two tractors and an excavator. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on July 29, 2011, 03:36:45 AM
He really needs two tractors and an excavator. ;)
Yeah! And some scotch!
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 06:53:51 AM
Yeah! And some scotch!
What's the scotch for?
To make you feel better when...
you bury the two wheel drive tractor in the mud, break the 4 wheel drive trying to pull it out, and then tipping the excavator over trying to pull the whole mess? ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on July 29, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
What's the scotch for?
To make you feel better when...
you bury the two wheel drive tractor in the mud, break the 4 wheel drive trying to pull it out, and then tipping the excavator over trying to pull the whole mess? ;D
I have a plan:
Nissan Patrol test drive and Russian Monster Tracktors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Tf23BzAOw#normal)
Quote from: ducpainter on July 29, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
What's the scotch for?
To make you feel better when...
you bury the two wheel drive tractor in the mud, break the 4 wheel drive trying to pull it out, and then tipping the excavator over trying to pull the whole mess? ;D
when he could have avoided the whole mess with a small slew of well timed explosive charges to do the work in less time with less effort
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 01:57:30 PM
I have a plan:
Nissan Patrol test drive and Russian Monster Tracktors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Tf23BzAOw#normal)
nothing good can come of this.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 29, 2011, 02:08:58 PM
nothing good can come of this.
It's about time I do something stupid. I think 2wd, 40's vintage, and any tools I can find that'll fit. If nothing else-the actual useable stuff costs legitimate money.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 02:11:31 PM
It's about time I do something stupid. I think 2wd, 40's vintage, and any tools I can find that'll fit. If nothing else-the actual useable stuff costs legitimate money.
Wanna buy my Massey...
You can have all the ambiance you want...
and mosquito control to boot.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 29, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
Wanna buy my Massey...
You can have all the ambiance you want...
and mosquito control to boot.
Only if you deliver it.
Paint it flat black first though.
That would take away from the ambiance. Maybe a couple coats of clear over the patina?
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 02:59:22 PM
Only if you deliver it.
Paint it flat black first though.
Steve will do it when it arrives. ;D
I know how you love flat black.
The patina comes out of the exhaust.
I'm sort of looking for something like Nate's, with less rust. Can I run implements off it alright?
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 03:10:26 PM
I know how you love flat black.
The patina comes out of the exhaust.
I'm sort of looking for something like Nate's, with less rust. Can I run implements off it alright?
My tractor runs everything I put on it.
It sucks for bucket work. I do have a manure bucket for it, but I recently removed the last part of the framework.
My Massey has a high/low range transmission and barely goes slow enough with the tiller. The compact tractors of today are better for that as they have even lower ranges in the transmission.
For a rotary mower or woodsplitter, or any draft implement...harrows or the like it's just the ticket. It would also be pretty good with a tedder or rake.
It's a little tired to run a baler.
I'm a genius. ;D
Kenny Chesney- She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYiWgsmxOTo#normal)
just rent a bobcat?
See that's what I was doing with the Kubota. Scraping the topsoil off for a driveway. The heavier ones work better. The light ones, not so much. plus you get better traction with tracks.
Now here's an old D4 that does a lot of work.
CAT D4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csGDxL3wXPI#normal)
Quote from: D Paoli on July 30, 2011, 02:36:14 AM
See that's what I was doing with the Kubota. Scraping the topsoil off for a driveway. The heavier ones work better. The light ones, not so much. plus you get better traction with tracks.
Now here's an old D4 that does a lot of work.
CAT D4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csGDxL3wXPI#normal)
It helps if you run a roto tiller over the loam first if you're using a tractor mounted bucket.
Thoughts?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2520301180.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2520301180.html)
I've seen worse for more money.
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 30, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
I've seen worse for more money.
I've seen better for less.
Must mean it's a decent deal. [laugh]
Looks good. Just paint it Blue and white and you're good to go.
haven't read all 4 pages. kubota is offering 0% financing
http://www.kubota.com/finance/finance-promo.aspx (http://www.kubota.com/finance/finance-promo.aspx)
if you're thinking of a new tractor
Dave don't finance.
Technically its not financing in the truer sense as you're still not paying interest.
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 31, 2011, 09:53:25 AM
Technically its not financing in the truer sense as you're still not paying interest.
Using something I don't own, can break, then still have to pay for is teh suck. I'll do it all manually first.
I have an Yanmar 4 wheel drive ....... Sorry no pics
No problems and lots of em out there easy to get maintenance parts
Plus- you'll probably want/need a flail mower attachment for the rough mowing
Quote from: Dan on July 28, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
Once you figure out what size you need, get the next bigger ;D
BEST advice yet!
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 29, 2011, 01:57:30 PM
I have a plan:
Nissan Patrol test drive and Russian Monster Tracktors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Tf23BzAOw#normal)
What started out as a nice drive along a pristine lake shore turned into a environmental wreck.
mitt
"Here, hold my beer. Watch this, I got an idea..."
[bacon]
Perfect illustration of what I've heard about 4WD; you'll get stuck where nobody can get you out.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html)
Did you decide on one yet?? My dad has a John Deere and can make you a backhoe from scrapmetal. It'll save you $$$$'s! He made one for his tractor and one for his 4 wheeler when he goes panning for gold. [roll] He always has side jobs lined up though and they have pretty much paid for the tractor a couple times over since he bought it 6 years ago.
Happy hunting!
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 03, 2011, 08:59:01 PM
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html)
Much better.
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 03, 2011, 08:59:01 PM
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2528216432.html)
I like this one too. Old American Arn is great if you're a hobbyist or collector but more modern stuff is better if you have real work to do. I wonder at the engine rebuild at what seems like low hours? If the engine was abused, chances are the hydraulics and drivetrain suffered the same treatment. I'd get all the documentation on the engine rebuild and make sure it was done by a professional.
Only other concern is that the, er... bloody attachments are expensive. Don't know what the market is and if it'd be better to find one that comes with what you want.
I think this is even better:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html)
Id say.
Backhoe attachment is 7-8k new and oh so useful
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 07, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
I think this is even better:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html)
You looking for an argument? ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 07, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
I think this is even better:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2535103203.html)
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That was fast....
Quote from: Speeddog on August 08, 2011, 10:52:44 AM
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That was fast....
Still works for me?
musta been
Vague notion of the day: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2536037546.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2536037546.html)
meh
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 08, 2011, 10:07:43 PM
Vague notion of the day: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2536037546.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/grd/2536037546.html)
Key word there is 'little'.
Bigger.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2538958485.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2538958485.html)
or http://monterey.craigslist.org/grd/2523215402.html (http://monterey.craigslist.org/grd/2523215402.html)
yanmar?
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 09, 2011, 08:08:35 PM
Bigger.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2538958485.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2538958485.html)
It's older'n you. ;D
you were on the right track with the Kubotas IMO
Quote from: ducpainter on August 10, 2011, 03:17:32 AM
It's older'n you. ;D
you were on the right track with the Kubotas IMO
I know, but the whole multiple times the price of the older iron is intimidating. If I wanted to spend another 8k I would've gotten a GS instead of the current bike.
Which ironically, would also be considered a tractor.
There's a PTO on the old Jeep. I'm tempted to weld something up and use that.
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 10, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
I know, but the whole multiple times the price of the older iron is intimidating. If I wanted to spend another 8k I would've gotten a GS instead of the current bike.
Which ironically, would also be considered a tractor.
only if that GS was made by MotoGuzzi...of the Stelvio variety
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 10, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
I know, but the whole multiple times the price of the older iron is intimidating. If I wanted to spend another 8k I would've gotten a GS instead of the current bike.
Which ironically, would also be considered a tractor.
There's a PTO on the old Jeep. I'm tempted to weld something up and use that.
Unless I'm mistaken, your property is not flat.
The old iron is almost all 2wd. A 2wd tractor with a bucket will get stuck on flat ground.
Just sayin'
shhhh.
let him learn on his own. . .
it'll mean more
;D
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 10, 2011, 01:05:53 PM
shhhh.
let him learn on his own. . .
it'll mean more
;D
He did ask to get 'schooled'. :-\
He was schooled pages ago.
We told him which direction to look in.
We can't stop him from making bad decisions.
I think the decision was made before the request for education [laugh]
;D
I think he's suffering from a lack of what seems like good equipment available at at what seems like a reasonable price.
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 10, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
He was schooled pages ago.
We told him which direction to look in.
We can't stop him from making bad decisions.
Bein' as smaht as he is...
he's a bit slow on the uptake. ;)
Yep, my original post pretty much said it all. :)
Quote from: Speedbag on July 28, 2011, 07:58:45 AM
4WD diesel compact utility
Quote from: Speedbag on August 10, 2011, 06:38:12 PM
Yep, my original post pretty much said it all. :)
How small we talkin'?
hmmmmmmm? [laugh]
As said earlier, figure out what you need.
Then buy the next bigger one.
;D
Or, do what my brother did and buy a '50s vintage Allis WD45 and fix something about every other time you use it.
Said fixing usually comes about at the most inopportune times (i.e. after a huge snowstorm). ;)
Quote from: Speedbag on August 10, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
As said earlier, figure out what you need.
Then buy the next bigger one.
;D
I can understand Dave's thinking about the old stuff.
They run forever.
Problem is they're pretty limited in their capabilities if you're trying to run hydraulic accessories...
just like the compacts are limited if you want to do field/draft work.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 10, 2011, 03:41:49 PM
I think he's suffering from a lack of what seems like good equipment available at at what seems like a reasonable price.
That and I know the old stuff runs pretty well.
I'm not in the ideal area-most what I see are lawn tractors, full size excavators, or overpriced with no implements.
meh...just get a Ditchwitch and a Bobcat...LOL
Just get one of these. You can put different attachments on it, and they don't get stuck.
(http://www.drpower.com/Content/ProdImages/F1017_275w.jpg)
Some attachments...
(http://www.drpower.com/EmailProdImages/F0432-175.jpg)
(http://www.drpower.com/EmailProdImages/F0399-250.jpg)
(http://www.drpower.com/EmailProdImages/F0945-250.jpg)
;D
All that walking.....
Looks like work.
It is kind of like work. The thing is a handful to say the least, but its so cool mowing stuff like that down that you forget it's work.
Need to make a trail through the brush? Just break out the DR Mower.
I wasn't being serous about it replacing a tractor but its a way cool mower. If you watch the videos or commercials of it mowing down stuff that would stop a regular mower in its tracks and thing it's fake...It's not.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=150645690195&pt=Tractors&autorefresh=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=150645690195&pt=Tractors&autorefresh=true)
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 11, 2011, 10:22:17 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=150645690195&pt=Tractors&autorefresh=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=150645690195&pt=Tractors&autorefresh=true)
It doesn't have a loader, but they can be had.
The price is right.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 12, 2011, 02:59:35 AM
The price is right.
Except it's still not up to the reserve. The tire shine is a nice touch.
Quote from: Wrong Way Peachfuzz on August 12, 2011, 03:05:34 AM
Except it's still not up to the reserve. The tire shine is a nice touch.
Good point
The face painted onto the one rear fender would be my selling point
Quote from: D Paoli on August 11, 2011, 04:27:28 AM
Just get one of these. You can put different attachments on it, and they don't get stuck.
My Dad has one with the brush hog, mower and snow blower attachments. Its pretty mean with the brush hog attachment on.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 12, 2011, 02:59:35 AM
It doesn't have a loader, but they can be had.
The price is right.
I figure it's worth about $3500 with no attachments. We'll see if I win it.
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 12, 2011, 09:07:04 PM
I figure it's worth about $3500 with no attachments. We'll see if I win it.
It's worth that all day long.
I just noticed it is also missing some of the 3 point hitch linkage.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 13, 2011, 03:45:55 AM
It's worth that all day long.
I just noticed it is also missing some of the 3 point hitch linkage.
The top link isn't there but those are cheap.
Quote from: Dan on August 13, 2011, 03:53:16 AM
The top link isn't there but those are cheap.
On the Deere's the two small lift arms go via linkage to the lower lift arms. You can see the two pins just forward of the drawbar.
The linkage and lift arms are missing as well as the top link.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 13, 2011, 03:56:05 AM
On the Deere's the two small lift arms go via linkage to the lower lift arms. You can see the two pins just forward of the drawbar.
The linkage and lift arms are missing as well as the top link.
Oh yeah. I wonder if that's a Deere specific part? Those might be harder to find than the generic top link.
Quote from: Dan on August 13, 2011, 04:04:02 AM
Oh yeah. I wonder if that's a Deere specific part? Those might be harder to find than the generic top link.
I believe they are.
They'll be harder to find used.
I bet they make new ones every day. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on August 13, 2011, 04:05:49 AM
I believe they are.
They'll be harder to find used.
I bet they make new ones every day. ;)
That's where the green paint gets expensive.
Quote from: Dan on August 13, 2011, 04:57:14 AM
That's where the green paint gets expensive.
It isn't easy bein' green.
This might be it:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html)
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 13, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
This might be it:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html)
Looks good from here! I've rebuilt hydraulic cylinders before and it's not a whole lot different from forks, just heavier work and the nut is usually 500 times tighter than anything on a bike. Or, you can just let it leak and add fluid now and then. It won't last long on CL and I think it's time to fish or cut bait. A better deal is guaranteed to come along within two weeks of buying it but that's a law of physics, nothing can be done to change it.
Here is a link to the specs on that thing. Made in Japan which is a plus in my book.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/9/192-allis-chalmers-5020.html (http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/9/192-allis-chalmers-5020.html)
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 13, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
This might be it:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html)
I like the JD better
Yeah,
I agree the Yanmar/JD is bigger and probably a better tractor. But by the time he puts a bucket and other stuff on, it can get a lot more expensive in time and money. And the final auction sale price may be high.
Price is up to $3050, and still not at the reserve.
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 13, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
This might be it:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/2541626819.html)
meh...
parts?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/for/2555681127.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/for/2555681127.html)
Treads! Like a mini tank.
And it's the fastest color!
I guess there are some advantages to asking for tractor advice on a bike forum, for one, we're not real likely to turn on you and outbid you if you post an online auction or Craigslist item for our input. I think you are probably also posting in some of the tractor forums for their opinion, which might have more depth than some of ours.
Here is one of the forums I occasionally check out when I'm looking for something.
http://www.tractorbynet.com (http://www.tractorbynet.com)
Did you get a Tractor yet?
Not yet.
Patience is best if one wants a good deal.
Yes, but we're spending your money. [laugh]