After 24 years of operating motor vehicles, I received my first speeding ticket.
I tried searching online but couldn't find anything. I received a bullshit speeding ticket in Montrose CO last week and I live in California.
I know how to pay the fine, it's all listed on the ticket (conveniently). My question is if anyone knows if violations in Colorado will transfer to my California driving record?
TIA
Good question. Sorry, don't know the answer but I'm just sticking around to find out myself. Calling all Lawyers and POs out there. I'm sure somebody knows the answer.
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I know that none of my CO tickets transferred to NM... but that's because NM doesn't share minor traffic info with other states. A quick search of CA vehicle code results in this:
Quote13363. (a) The department may, in its discretion, except as provided in Chapter 6 (commencing with Section 15000) of Division 6, of this code, suspend or revoke the privilege of any resident or nonresident to drive a motor vehicle in this State upon receiving notice of the conviction of the person in a state, territory, or possession of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or the Dominion of Canada of an offense therein which, if committed in this State, would be grounds for the suspension or revocation of the privilege to operate a motor vehicle.
(b) Whenever any state, territory, or possession of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or the Dominion of Canada reports the conviction of a violation in such place by a person licensed in this State, the department shall not give effect to such report pursuant to subdivision (a) of this section or Section 15023 unless the department is satisfied that the law of such other place pertaining to the conviction is substantially the same as the law of this State pertaining to such conviction and that the description of the violation from which the conviction arose, is sufficient and that the interpretation and enforcement of such law are substantially the same in such other place as they are in this State.
So, basically, if they feel like CO was justified in writing that ticket (speed limit seems pretty universal) CA will act on the "conviction".
Quote from: Punx Clever on August 13, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
So, basically, if they feel like CO was justified in writing that ticket (speed limit seems pretty universal) CA will act on the "conviction".
Assuming, of course, that Colorado cares enough to send all the appropriate paperwork to California.
Hell, I know folks who have ducked tickets for years in Kansas just because individual counties don't bother to talk to each other.
(Or, "Yeah, I have to drive really carefully though here. If I get pulled over I'll probably go to jail, because I'm sure there's a bench warrant out on me...")
Good call Zarn... looked into it and found this:
QuoteMost states record any out-of-state violation on your driving record and assign points on your driver's license. (Learn more about the points system.)
A few states, such as Colorado and Pennsylvania, do not record the violation if it is considered a minor offense, like a speeding ticket. Other states, like Maryland and Nevada, record the violation but do not assign points for out-of-state tickets. Florida and Texas place both the violation and points on your driving record for all out-of-state convictions â€" which will likely increase your car insurance premium.
Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/03/11/state-speeding-tickets-follow-home/#ixzz1UxLoM9GZ (http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/03/11/state-speeding-tickets-follow-home/#ixzz1UxLoM9GZ)
Quote from: Punx Clever on August 13, 2011, 02:54:23 PM
Good call Zarn... looked into it and found this:
thanks, i'm going to poke around a little more. A random guy in the hotel in Durango said that he never had one of his show up (he lives in San Diego), but I was hoping for something current and verified other than "some guy in the hotel."
If the points don't transfer over not, it's such a big deal, I'll just count it as a travel tax for Montrose County.
Privateer: The last time I picked up a ticket in CO, the officer flat out told me "This won't go on your record" then turned to my friend (CO drivers licence) and told him it would go on his licence. I thought it was because of NM... now I think it's because of CO.
So, now you have the random guy from a hotel in Durango, and the random guy who used to live just south of Durango. Two random guys can't be wrong!
Here in Texas we are part of the Non-Resident Violator Compact, California does not participate but Colorado does, if I remember correctly. You may not ever have an issue in California but if any other state you happen to get stopped in does participate, you may end up in the pokey waiting for a judge. There are only a few states that do not participate in the NRVC.
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I think he plans on paying the fine, just trying to figure out if it will go on his licence, and thus on his insurance.
Ah, well, I tried.
I think the same thing applies. Since Cali is not part of the Compact I do not think Compact States report to them.
yes, I'm paying the fine. I still think it was a bullshit ticket, but I can't avoid paying it and taking the bench warrant - I have family in Colorado.
I eventually did find some more non-official information that colorado only reports 'major' violations into the system, DUI, reckless, etc. So I think I'm OK.
I look at peoples CA license history at work everyday and have never seen a conviction listed for any other State. Criminal history yes, vehicle no.
This is all good info as I'm a non-CO resident who just got a speeding ticket there...
Thanks!
All these CO speeding tickets wouldn't have anything to do with a particular gathering of hooligans would it?
Quote from: Punx Clever on August 20, 2011, 10:35:36 PM
All these CO speeding tickets wouldn't have anything to do with a particular gathering of hooligans would it?
Well DUH! ;)
two of us got tickets on our trip. My friend actually called a traffic attorney out there who was nice enough to give a free consult. Lawyer said they do not report violations under 20 over to whatever system they use.
The other side of this story is that the officer screwed up and gave me a summons date that was on a sunday. So he reissued the ticket and screwed that up because soon after I got home I received a letter that I had exceed 20 days past my summons to pay the fine.
Uh. no. it hadn't even been 20 days since I'd received the citation.
of course I'd mailed the check off the morning I received this letter from the court.
Called and spoke to the court clerk and they're helping us figure it out. totally lame.
What's this I hear? Bumbling and incompetence on the part of state workers!? I'm shocked, sir! This is surely a rare and isolated incident!
(Alternately, "To err is human, to stand by that error bureaucratic.")
I will say though, the two years that I've been to DiTR, the local LEO's seemed to be pretty decent.
First year a rider had a get-off, and another rider took his bike for a shakedown run after... when he came screaming back down the hill the sherrif was standing there watching him... didn't even given the othe rider a ticket (probably could have arrested him), just a stern "knock that shit off".
Second year, I flew my bike off a cliff, only picked up a Careless that doesn't seem to have transfered to NM for some reason...