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Title: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: godudi on August 24, 2011, 10:08:34 AM Hi
I own a Ducati Monster 1100 EVO (single sided swing arm) and I wonder if there are other ways to get the rear wheel off the ground without a rear stand so I can easily clean and lube the chain? Please share your ideas, Thanks, David Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: avizpls on August 24, 2011, 10:14:07 AM got an overhead I beam?
and a few ratchet straps? Take your seat off and find a sturdy spot to hook onto. The higher on the bike the better, and make the points on the I beam wide apart (at least 4 feet) Bike will sway, but its doable. I see your edit and raise you my own: just to lube chain? Have someone sit on the bike and slowly move it for you. the above isnt worths unless you need to remove the wheel. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: godudi on August 24, 2011, 10:32:13 AM got an overhead I beam? and a few ratchet straps? Take your seat off and find a sturdy spot to hook onto. The higher on the bike the better, and make the points on the I beam wide apart (at least 4 feet) Bike will sway, but its doable. I see your edit and raise you my own: just to lube chain? Have someone sit on the bike and slowly move it for you. the above isnt worths unless you need to remove the wheel. I don't have an overhead I beam nor someone to sit on the bike and move it for me. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: avizpls on August 24, 2011, 10:36:46 AM then I'd say you're going to have to clean what chain is accessible, get up and move it so a fresh section of chain can be attended to....repeat as needed until all 98-102 links are complete.
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: godudi on August 24, 2011, 10:47:28 AM then I'd say you're going to have to clean what chain is accessible, get up and move it so a fresh section of chain can be attended to....repeat as needed until all 98-102 links are complete. This is exactly how I clean it today, and it is very annoying and not practical :( Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: JEFF_H on August 24, 2011, 10:49:53 AM http://www.hardlineproducts.com/products/rollastand.html (http://www.hardlineproducts.com/products/rollastand.html)
(http://www.hardlineproducts.com/prodimages/LWF0020_rollastnd1.jpg) (rear wheel stand would be better....) Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: godudi on August 24, 2011, 10:58:53 AM Can I just use a regular floor jack under a certain point and jack the bike up just enough for the rear tire to spin, yet still to be supported by the jack, sidestand, and front tire?
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: J5 on August 24, 2011, 11:13:12 AM Can I just use a regular floor jack under a certain point and jack the bike up just enough for the rear tire to spin, yet still to be supported by the jack, sidestand, and front tire? thats exactly how you can do it Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: godudi on August 24, 2011, 11:19:25 AM thats exactly how you can do it So now the question should be which part of the bike should I attach the floor jack to/? Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: DarkStaR on August 24, 2011, 11:37:53 AM Save yourself the trouble and get a rear stand. It's worth it.
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: OneWheelDrive on August 24, 2011, 03:18:23 PM If you've got a buddy to help, you can use the side stand as a lever and lean the bike on the front wheel. Works in a pinch. Jump to the 5:05 mark in this Keith Code vid:
Twist Of The Wrist II -SAG adjustment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CArBc2FJkao#) Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: OneWheelDrive on August 24, 2011, 03:21:11 PM Or if you're ballsy you can do it like this guy:
How to Oil a Motorcycle Chain without using a Center Stand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79RgJ29lb9U#) Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: DarkStaR on August 24, 2011, 04:23:55 PM Not the best idea for a duc, as the side stand is connected to the engine case. Problems can and have occured which can result in $$$ repairs.
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: avizpls on August 24, 2011, 05:23:32 PM Yeah, definitely do not lean it on the kickstand.
Get a rear stand or do it how you do now. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: OneWheelDrive on August 24, 2011, 05:48:43 PM [roll] bad idea I guess, scratch that.
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: ducatiz on August 24, 2011, 06:00:02 PM If you've got a buddy to help, you can use the side stand as a lever and lean the bike on the front wheel. Works in a pinch. Jump to the 5:05 mark in this Keith Code vid: nope nope nope Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: JEFF_H on August 25, 2011, 01:15:37 PM [roll] bad idea I guess, scratch that. dont feel too bad. worse idea is lubing the chain with the bike in gear and turning the rear wheel Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: hillbillypolack on August 25, 2011, 04:48:12 PM You have a premium motorcycle. Invest $70 in a welded tube rear stand.
Levering the bike around on the sidestand can crack the engine case (as was mentioned earlier) and you really don't want that. Jacking the bike up from below is likely going to involve contact with the case or header pipe beneath the bike (am I right?). Also not a good idea since you may cause the bike to tip, crack the case or tweak the exhaust. I know rolling the bike around while lubing or cleaning the chain isn't convenient, but until you get a rear stand it's better than causing possible damage. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Punx Clever on August 25, 2011, 05:19:19 PM http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/shop-cranes.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/shop-cranes.html)
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: avizpls on August 25, 2011, 06:16:22 PM Tell me you're joking.
Try this (http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html) instead There's a coupon in rrw for 25 I think! Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: 2-Skinny on August 25, 2011, 06:58:58 PM http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html)
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: J5 on August 25, 2011, 10:47:55 PM http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-rear-motorcycle-spool-stand-99701.html) useless for SSS http://www.hardlineproducts.com/products/rollastand.html (http://www.hardlineproducts.com/products/rollastand.html) (http://www.hardlineproducts.com/prodimages/LWF0020_rollastnd1.jpg) (rear wheel stand would be better....) quite a good option as can use it forever on any bike and good for long distance travel Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: ducatiz on August 26, 2011, 06:06:36 AM Front and rear stand, all in one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818?) $53 shipped I have two now and I have zero problems. They are not heavy like the bulldog but they do the job for a much lower price. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Punx Clever on August 26, 2011, 10:04:00 AM Tell me you're joking. Only kinda. I like using the engine hoist. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: avizpls on August 26, 2011, 10:27:39 AM yeah, but if youre spending that kind of money.....get the correct stand!
I used (not an engine lift) but an overhead beam before I bought a stand, so I know what thats like. [beer] Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Punx Clever on August 26, 2011, 10:56:57 AM When I bought the one I have now (used to use the hoist in my dads shop), I weighed the pros and cons of buying a set of stands vs a hoist. The hoist allows for everything from a complete rebuild to oiling the chain. Only thing a hoist doesn't do that a stand does, is storage.
Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: freeclimbmtb on August 26, 2011, 11:03:51 AM (http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/144853_lg.jpg?01AD=34u0kEM45w0iOfSR4pWOd7-U0pZdDqb4NIE90Qx_-ARdOWai3pnh3Og&01RI=5ECDFB387E5B44E&01NA=)
+ (http://www.mccune1.com/3-4%20sch%2040%20pipe.jpg) if you put the pipe through the axle while its on the side stand and adjust the right jackstand to fit, then you can lever the whole bike up by the pipe and slide the left jackstand under. works for the front too ;D ...of course this is ideal for cleaning and lubing...not very practical if you need to take the tire off.... ...and sorry all you HD guys out there...you need hollow axles for this trick [laugh] Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Narflar on August 26, 2011, 01:18:29 PM Front and rear stand, all in one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818?) $53 shipped I have two now and I have zero problems. They are not heavy like the bulldog but they do the job for a much lower price. How does that work with a SSS? Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: hillbillypolack on August 26, 2011, 05:24:25 PM (http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/144853_lg.jpg?01AD=34u0kEM45w0iOfSR4pWOd7-U0pZdDqb4NIE90Qx_-ARdOWai3pnh3Og&01RI=5ECDFB387E5B44E&01NA=) + (http://www.mccune1.com/3-4%20sch%2040%20pipe.jpg) if you put the pipe through the axle while its on the side stand and adjust the right jackstand to fit, then you can lever the whole bike up by the pipe and slide the left jackstand under. works for the front too ;D ...of course this is ideal for cleaning and lubing...not very practical if you need to take the tire off.... ...and sorry all you HD guys out there...you need hollow axles for this trick [laugh] I'm gonna need pics to see what you mean. My mind is just jogging through images of a raw pipe on painted metal, flaking off the original surface. Owch. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: DarkStaR on August 26, 2011, 05:34:07 PM I'm gonna need pics to see what you mean. My mind is just jogging through images of a raw pipe on painted metal, flaking off the original surface. Owch. Through the axle. No paint normally in there.... Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: freeclimbmtb on August 27, 2011, 04:59:58 AM I'm gonna need pics to see what you mean. My mind is just jogging through images of a raw pipe on painted metal, flaking off the original surface. Owch. Unfortunately I'm 3000 miles away from my garage until december, but darkstar is right, theres no paint on the inside of your axle, and even the ducati performance rear stand for the SSS bikes uses a raw steel stepped pin that goes into the axle...no less harmful than a piece of pipe. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Rameses on August 28, 2011, 07:41:18 PM I'm gonna need pics to see what you mean. My mind is just jogging through images of a raw pipe on painted metal, flaking off the original surface. Owch. Like this, except you slip a pipe or bar through the hollow axle instead of using the spools. Also, if you have rigid, non-hinged footpegs, you can just put the jackstands under the pegs. Motorcycle On Jack Stands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84RydLhcO9A#) Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Mojo S2R on August 28, 2011, 07:46:47 PM Stoppie?
Won't really work for oiling the chain though. Or any other maintenance for that matter. ;D Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: Rameses on August 28, 2011, 09:08:56 PM Stoppie? Won't really work for oiling the chain though. Or any other maintenance for that matter. ;D Maybe for draining the fork oil. ;D (http://www.shastasucks.com/uploads/broke_fork_motorcycle.JPG) Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: ducatiz on August 29, 2011, 04:31:29 AM Maybe for draining the fork oil. ;D (http://www.shastasucks.com/uploads/broke_fork_motorcycle.JPG) I love that pic. Best Helmet Ever. But I wonder how it fared when he faceplanted 0.25 seconds later? Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: timeforpoptarts on August 29, 2011, 04:54:19 AM Front and rear stand, all in one Does this fit the newer Monsters with axle sliders in?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120766857818?) $53 shipped I have two now and I have zero problems. They are not heavy like the bulldog but they do the job for a much lower price. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: SDkid on August 30, 2011, 07:14:51 PM I love that pic. Best Helmet Ever. But I wonder how it fared when he faceplanted 0.25 seconds later? he needed to have his helmet off to show that facial expression. EVERYONE else behind him had at least a helmet on...bad luck vs. stupidity. Title: Re: How to get the rear wheel off the ground without a paddock stand Post by: ducatiz on August 30, 2011, 07:29:14 PM Does this fit the newer Monsters with axle sliders in? No idea. I picked it up for the front capability, but I think it comes with paddles for the swingarm. |