Ducati Monster Forum

Would be nice to have a category where people can post their builds/bikes/progress.  Most of the projects tend to get lost in the Accessories/Mods category...

I disagree. ;D

Pretty easy to tell who's building.

Well I mean, yeah when someone lists a project and it is fairly easy to search them down, but there are two sections for "bike configurators" for models that aren't made any more, a "random pics", and "non moto" etc ... it seems it would be simple and add convenience for following builds...

Many other great motorcycle message boards host a projects section... I just think it is something that should be taken into consideration.

I'm for it. Partially solely to disagree with DP :P, but mostly because I think it would be nice to have all those threads easily accessible for reference. It's easy to follow when they're happening but impossible to find once they're off the radar unless you remember who was doing them or a keyword.

For new folks and casual members looking for ideas, they'd never find them.

I think its a great idea, mostly to disagree with DP  ;)

I say do it.

I have two or three.. or four?  bikes I am working up slowly and it would be cool to have a "home" for each one.. pic updates, etc.

Plus to see other folks work all in one place.

I don't know where on the board it should go, but it is a good idea...

The UK Bandit board has a build forum and it rocks.  Some threads there are customization threads (like mine), but others include engine rebuild/mod, total strip downs with frame modifications, Harris- and Spondon-framed bikes with pictures and on and on -- now my favorite forum.  

I am against it. It would just serve as a painful reminder that i am not working on my projects. And I have a wife for that.

What would be the cut-off from accessories / mods and project?

I do like the idea.

If you remove most of the parts from the bike in a single go, that's a project

if you put on new exhaust, new wheels and new mirrors, that's mods.

for it to be a project, you have to post an initial photo of a mostly-disassembled bike

I think this would be a very popular category. Everyone loves projects when they show up here and there. Then they fade out and get lost among the "hey, look at my new clutch cover" topics. (not to diss those, I also posted there...)

How about a stickied builds thread at the top of the Acc/Mods section which just includes links to the various builds with a quick description of the build.

Mods can decide what qualifies as a "build", and add the link to the thread.

No response in the thread allowed...it'd just be a collection of links.

this is a good idea.

i think keeping together a thread for a single bike helps see changes and direction and total work.

I have the main rebuild thread, but i know I have a few theads that deal with technical, mods, exhausts, etc for this single build.

It would be similar to DucCutters.

Well you have the "Projects" category, and each thread is about 1 bike.  Updates are posted to that thread for any mods done to that bike whether they be frame-up build, mild modding, etc.

"2-Skinny's 916/1098 Hybrid-Project"

or

"DoWorkSon's 748 -> 696 Swap Build"

or

"FeedtehDucs 695 Cafe Racer"

etc...

Where they would post updates to their builds- and the threads are kept in that one section to find easier.  AND  people don't have to make multiple threads for each modification.

This is different, but I am a member of an aquarium forum and everyone keeps tank "journals" for people to follow their progress, images etc.

Sure, anyone can search but keeping it in one spot is easier and browsing through for inspiration is fun.

Examples:


http://www.customfighters.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=9cb381947942a772449d9ab4bacbe2fa&f=82 (http://www.customfighters.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=9cb381947942a772449d9ab4bacbe2fa&f=82)

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?board=48.0 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?board=48.0)

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/planted-nano-tanks/ (http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/planted-nano-tanks/)

http://xs650forum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=projects (http://xs650forum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=projects)

I'm for it.  If we had one I would have posted my never ending Desmo pregnant dog project. 

DP it is time to yield to the will of the people (members).

i love seeing project progress.  it would be cool to have a category dedicated to it.

We have just shy of 9000 members...albeit not all active.

When you get somewhere north of .15% ( don't ignore the decimal ) thinking it's a great idea it might be considered the 'will of the people'.

Until then it's just more work the way I see it.

So I take that is a no?

Thanks for the understanding/ clear explanation for why it can't be done (and the dozens of other categories can)....  [roll]

So what category would you suggest I host a poll for such a change so we can see about generating that .15%?

I would hate to put it in the wrong category and have it moved somewhere no one looks....

A few points I'd like to make:

1) I'm in favor of this idea.

2) Sarcasm is not the way to win the mods (who in my experience are all really cool people) to your side.

3) You should put the poll in the "General Monster Forum" section, let people have two votes, and make "boobies" an option. The other two options should be "Yes, I want to see a 'Builds' category" and "No, I think the board is fine the way it is."

If I meant it as no, I would have said no. Roll your eyes at me again and it will be no. :-* [sometimes I wish I could say exactly what I thought]

Start your poll wherever your little sensitive heart desires. When you get 200 responses let me know. The 11 or 12 people that posted in your thread don't justify starting a new board.

I moved this here because that's where it belongs...just like I'll have to move hundreds of 'build' threads because someone changed their exhaust or bolted on thousands of dollars in accessories.

If I wanted no-one to see it I would not have posted the redirect.

I don't appreciate your attitude.

DP I think you have gone too far here and need to cool it.  This a forum that belongs to the members.  We need mods not autocrats. 

Sigh. Well there goes that.

Everybody relax, doesn't solve a thing to get huffy. If I wanted infighting I'd invite my family over for Thanksgiving dinner.

Make a poll. Mods, set a number that if hit the forum will be created. I ask you please keep it reasonable, based on active members, not total accounts. Or don't - I'll be fine either way. At the risk of being reasonable, I think that's a solid plan, but you guys actually own the site and have the final call.

And yes, Boobies has to be an option, even if counterproductive to getting the numbers needed.

I apologize for the attitude DucPainter- that was uncalled for.

Although I have never ran a forum before, I can understand that managing one this large can be stressful/annoying at times.

Your posts sometimes come off (my opinion) as indifferent or iron-fisted.  I was just offering a suggestion I think will offer an improved experience for the members here- certainly if there is a huge effort in doing that then it isn't viable.  Obviously the intent wasn't to create problems.  I will post a poll in the General section- thank you for the feedback.

No, it belongs to the mods, or at least a few of them.  It really does, I think they even have receipts for it.

That is true- it is theirs.

I honestly don't mean to come off as iron fisted. When I posted originally about being able to tell who was building it was a reference to the limited numbers of people actually 'building' anything. There remains the question of exactly what constitutes a build. I don't think even the interested parties in this thread agree on that. Do we want a board with 3 or 4 threads per year? Is it warranted, or is it like this board...no one even pays attention. When I said get a couple hundred responses to the poll I was serious. That would show there was sufficient interest to even consider it.

It's not a huge effort to build a board. From experience it will be a fair amount of work to manage it. I don't think people realize how much time it takes.

I am, and will continue to be, direct. I don't have the patience or the time to pull punches. Plus I'm like the guy that got fired yesterday...for being cantankerous and abrasive.

Carry on.
I'm a member too Bill, and I don't change everything to suit me and the wife. We've had a formula for success for three and a half years and the history of TOB before that and 12 people do not constitute a large enough percentage of the members to warrant changing things.

I was referring to your overly caustic attitude today.  I'm trying to bring you back to your more normal grouchy self.  I've been a member of this board since the beginning and the previous board since  2000 and I don't remember such harsh comments from you.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_menstruation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_menstruation)

I really like the idea of a build board. I enjoy reading build threads, and hate having to look for anything more than two minutes.

That said, I could see how the vague line between "accessories/mods" and "builds" could turn into a big hassle for the moderators.

So I guess what I'm saying is "I really like the idea of a build board."

I'd be willing to be an admin for the build board.

The guidlines would simply be this.

If your engine and frame are separated, it qualifies.

I'd like to add that photos are required.

and a disassembled photo to start

although i don't think it should require engine/frame separation, but if the engine remains in the frame, then EVERYTHING else should be gone.

well

let's see

wheels
forks
frame
motor
swingarm

let's say 3 of 5

That sounds good.  I'll throw up the poll in General now... tell your friends!

I think it sounds a little light myself.

To me build means to fabricate.

When you fabricate you do neat stuff like make rearsets, cut stuff up and weld it back together, build an exhaust, triples, or a frame like RMartin.

Taking a bike apart and putting it back together in a new color, or with a vinyl wrapped forks and swingarm, or all the store bought bling in the world isn't a 'build'. That's just mods.

We can discuss that later.

Good luck with the poll.

ok, but i did this with my s2r when i first got it...before i ever put more than 100 miles on. in the end, all i did was mess with the wiring and chop the tail. not what i consider a "build"

in contrast, there was some guy who got his at about the same time. he tore it down just like i did. He then upgraded EVERYTHING, and did a custom paint job too i think.

i guess a "build" to me would have to be some major changes to the bike...

so 3 of 5 with at least some non stock non standard aftermarket changes
Have to be somewhat lenient as too much requiren and you in duccutter realm

Ask and ye shall receive!

Sort of  ;D

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52559.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52559.0)

After some discussion, we decided a sticky thread to track the build threads was the way to go. If we get enough threads, or maintaining the sticky gets to be a PITA, we might revisit the subforum idea.

(Which is mod-speak for "never!"  [evil])