So the Shenandoah Track is a shit-ton of fun and Moto Xcitement has days coming up there on 10/9 and 10/30. (They have other days, but these are Sundays so don't have to miss work.) Anyone interested in heading over there? BTW, Brian and I are really good at camping so we can show you how. ;D
October 9
1. Jim (either or, but probably not both)
2. Mike (if he finds leathers) (Note: Rentals are available)
October 30
1. Jim (either or, but probably not both)
2. Brian (tentative)
3. 99Zulu (tentative)
4. Venomousr1993
More info can be found at http://motorcyclexcitement.com/. (http://motorcyclexcitement.com/.)
Gear and bike info: http://motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment (http://motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment)
Track: http://motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackmap-shen (http://motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackmap-shen)
What are the associated costs? I might be in but I have two weddings in October, one which includes flying to Texas and eating embarrassing amounts of BBQ.
is it all levels?
Quote from: Artful on September 07, 2011, 08:03:45 AM
What are the associated costs? I might be in but I have two weddings in October, one which includes flying to Texas and eating embarrassing amounts of BBQ.
Early bird fee is ~$200 and goes up to ~$225 for late birds. Plus a Roger Lyle membership fee of $25. So the max you'd spend is ~$250.
Quote from: MadDuc 20/20 on September 07, 2011, 08:08:28 AM
is it all levels?
Yep. Beginners, intermediate, and advanced. No matter how experienced you are, you must start out as a beginner with Roger Lyle and work your way up. Jim can safely move up but I'll stick with the B's for now.
I'm tentative for 10/30. I'm hosting guests on the 9th.
Their track days are generally $225 + $25 membership if you don't have one. Sign up early and get 25$ off.
https://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/pdfs/Register_TD2011.pdf (https://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/pdfs/Register_TD2011.pdf)
Sounds like fun to me but the only thing I worry about is the "no passing on the inside" - which seems to be at all levels (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackdays (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackdays)). I understand this rule at the beginner / intermediate, but at the upper levels IMHO it doesn't make sense. I dislike passing on the outside because a) it's almost impossible if you're on a lightweight bike trying to get around a middle/hvyweight - as soon as you start to get by they just hit the gas and motor past and b) if the rider being passed freaks and runs wide they take you out. But then again this is a track day and not a race school.
Also, as Shenandoah is a tighter track shouldn't be much of an issue.
Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 08:40:15 AM
But then again this is a track day and not a race school.
I wondered why I didn't get a trophy at the end of the day. ???
Quote from: Autohag on September 07, 2011, 08:33:31 AM
Jim can safely move up but I'll stick with the B's for now.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't expect to move up soon either...although those I-group guys thinking that the range esses were a 10 mph zone were out of their minds. I pretty consistently did 30 through there.
From my experience the no-passing rules are somewhat more strict with begginners (passing
only on the straights) and less with advanced/racers (have fun, just don't be a dick 8)).
I've passed and been passed on straight both on the inside and on the outside, it really depends on where you are on the track and what turns are coming up. For example on the main straight after the finish line, most passing is on the inside / left since almost all riders are on the right side of the track.
And before one of my girlfriends point it out, I should stop talking about riding and actually do some! [laugh]
Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 08:40:15 AM
Sounds like fun to me but the only thing I worry about is the "no passing on the inside" - which seems to be at all levels (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackdays (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/trackdays)). I understand this rule at the beginner / intermediate, but at the upper levels IMHO it doesn't make sense. I dislike passing on the outside because a) it's almost impossible if you're on a lightweight bike trying to get around a middle/hvyweight - as soon as you start to get by they just hit the gas and motor past and b) if the rider being passed freaks and runs wide they take you out. But then again this is a track day and not a race school.
Also, as Shenandoah is a tighter track shouldn't be much of an issue.
I be in for 30th, but I never done track or been to any school other than the msf basic . What are like gear requirments and such.
Would this be a track for someone like me who have only ride on streets?
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on September 07, 2011, 10:51:04 AM
From my experience the no-passing rules are somewhat more strict with begginners (passing only on the straights) and less with advanced/racers (have fun, just don't be a dick 8)).
I've passed and been passed on straight both on the inside and on the outside, it really depends on where you are on the track and what turns are coming up. For example on the main straight after the finish line, most passing is on the inside / left since almost all riders are on the right side of the track...
^ This.
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 07, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
I be in for 30th, but I never done track or been to any school other than the msf basic ...
Would this be a track for someone like me who have only ride on streets?
Shenandoah was my first track and had a blast. I was slow as molasses but left with some new skills.
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 07, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
What are like gear requirments and such.
Gear requirements: http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment) - you can wear a 2-piece as long as it's zipped together.
99zulu:
http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment (http://www.motorcyclexcitement.com/static/equipment)
You would def. have a blast. Roger Lyle puts on a good track day. Nice and relaxed and lots of instructors to help you out. His requirements are almost nil compared to others. They rent suits if you don't have something that zips together. He should require a back protector but doesn't. While track days seem expensive, after you attend one you won't think so - mad fun. Provided you keep it upright! ;D
Mad King:
I hear you, but rather than have a rule and not stick to it they should just not have it so confusion is avoided. If someone goes out thinking they won't get passed on the inside and does it could surprise them and lead to a bad situation. Best rule for upper classes is to say "this is a track day and if you stuff someone or chop their wheel you're out".
btw - this *is* tempting. ;D
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 07, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
I be in for 30th, but I never done track or been to any school other than the msf basic . What are like gear requirments and such.
Would this be a track for someone like me who have only ride on streets?
I put some links in the original post to the MotoXcitement website with more info. If you've never ridden on a highway, I'd be a little worried that you may not be comfortable. The speeds on Shenandoah aren't super fast...just make sure you know the old "you go where you look" rule and you'll be fine. some of the turns are monster tight but all of them are fun.
From their website:
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Full leather suit. If using a 2 piece suit, it must be zipped together. If you don't have a suit, ask about our leather riding suits that are available to rent for $75.00 with a $650 deposit on your credit card. Return the suit undamaged and we destroy your credit card deposit information. Rental leather racing suits will be available on a first-come, first-served basis. Reserve your leathers and track day early! Call Roger at 301-933-2599.
A high quality full-face helmet with DOT and Snell 2000 or 2005, or EC-22 rating with no dents or scratches. Remember, buy the best helmet you can afford! It will be protecting the most precious head in the worldâ€"yours!
Heavy-duty leather gloves, with gauntlet to cover the wrist, preferably made for road racing.
Leather riding boots that cover the ankles and shins.
A back protector is recommended, but not required.
Thanks for the info. I have the mesh jacket,I need a leather jacket and pants,was looking for a reason to buy one anyway.
Highway? hmm does following sad panda and mad duc20/20 from artful's place to northern va at night count? [Dolph].
You can always rent a suit too.
I might suggest you get signed up with MAD and go out on the club run. They do break off into sections, fast, med, slow etc. And it's a good organized way to get some time in at a nippier pace
Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
btw - this *is* tempting. ;D
Bringing the Norton? ;D
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 07, 2011, 11:47:06 AM
Highway? hmm does following sad panda and mad duc20/20 from artful's place to northern va at night count? [Dolph].
Only if an idiot on a Daytona passed you doing 120 and you didn't freak out... ;D
In addition to what Sad Panda said, you can always go out there to watch a track day to see how quickly folks move through the track.
Quote from: Ducatician on September 07, 2011, 12:09:25 PMOnly if an idiot on a Daytona passed you doing 120 and you didn't freak out... ;D
Well that depends... which lane was he in?
Quote from: Artful on September 07, 2011, 12:13:20 PM
Well that depends... which lane was he in?
Same lane [evil]
I wonder if you'd get your $650 suit deposit back if it's soiled from the inside [cheeky] I do have a full one piece set of leathers from back in the day buy there's no way my fat ass is fitting into them. Maybe the suit just shrunk a ton hanging in the closet ;D
Mike
Quote from: extra330 on September 07, 2011, 12:24:55 PM
I wonder if you'd get your $650 suit deposit back if it's soiled from the inside [cheeky]
I got mine back and I think Brian's wife would agree that if they smelled half as bad as her Jeep after Brian and I rode home in it that they should just be destroyed and no refund given. ;D
Quote from: extra330 on September 07, 2011, 12:24:55 PM
I wonder if you'd get your $650 suit deposit back if it's soiled from the inside [cheeky]
Mike,
As Roger Lyle himself says, "Better to play it safe..." Or maybe it was, "Slow in, fast out..." I dunno, I've got bad short-term memory.
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Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
btw - this *is* tempting. ;D
Quote from: Ducatician on September 07, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
Bringing the Norton? ;D
NOPE...he'll pull the giant killer out of retirement....the SV700...
Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
btw - this *is* tempting. ;D
Quote from: zooom on September 07, 2011, 12:45:42 PM
NOPE...he'll pull the giant killer out of retirement....the SV700...
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[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: zooom on September 07, 2011, 12:45:42 PM
NOPE...he'll pull the giant killer out of retirement....the SV700...
That'd be tempting, but I sold it. Maybe I could borrow it - hee hee. It now also sports a custom one-off ram-air box. Last time it raced at RoadA it ran gearing taller than any other SV team had ever heard of. Combine that with the light weight of the riders it was untouchable.
Quote from: tocino on September 07, 2011, 02:58:29 PM
That'd be tempting, but I sold it. Maybe I could borrow it - hee hee. It now also sports a custom one-off ram-air box. Last time it raced at RoadA it ran gearing taller than any other SV team had ever heard of. Combine that with the light weight of the riders it was untouchable.
where or with whom does it reside?
here's a killer of an idea...maybe you can persuade someone to finally get off his ass and put that FZR400 together and then show Jim and Pepe some lines on that thing!
Parts of it now comprise the Neighbor if the Beast WERA endurance racer, while the rest is either the B bike or "spares".
Nolan just bought a house so he'll be working on that for a while. Luckily with his new purchase he was able to get *his* SV (our old B bike) out of my garage :)
I just found a small leak in my roof. I'm broke, therefore out.
Pencil me in for the 9th as long as I can get hold of a set of leathers & I don't change my mind about tracking the RS. I really cant afford to fix it if wad it up. [bang]
Mike
Quote from: extra330 on September 08, 2011, 08:27:03 AM
Pencil me in for the 9th as long as I can get hold of a set of leathers & I don't change my mind about tracking the RS. I really cant afford to fix it if wad it up. [bang]
Mike
If you can fit into my Cortech two-piece you can swipe it for the event. I mean yeah I've had my balls in it but at least two of those times I was wearing underwear.
Quote from: extra330 on September 08, 2011, 08:27:03 AM
... I don't change my mind about tracking the RS.
but it wants it sooooooo bad! [evil] You're penciled in.
Quote from: Artful on September 08, 2011, 08:29:55 AM
If you can fit into my Cortech two-piece you can swipe it for the event. I mean yeah I've had my balls in it but at least two of those times I was wearing underwear.
Reminds me of the new Ben & Jerry's flavor:
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Quote from: Artful on September 08, 2011, 07:56:04 AM
I just found a small leak in my roof. I'm broke, therefore out.
I have some tarps if that helps at all!!!
Quote from: zooom on September 08, 2011, 09:04:55 AM
I have some tarps if that helps at all!!!
Thanks, I have a few myself. It's a very small leak (at least it was when I left the house this morning) and I knocked out the small piece of drywall that was wet. It's dripping slowly into a five gallon bucket at the moment. With any luck I can get a roofer out at a reasonable rate (lulz) to patch it. If I can't I'll whip out my caulk and at least seal it until this damn rain stops.
WHAT?...NO DUCT TAPE?....duct tape fixes everything....just ask MacGuyver!!!
If I can get my hands on rental suit that fits me . I am def in... Now off to look at some shoes and gloves.
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 08, 2011, 01:09:25 PM
If I can get my hands on rental suit that fits me . I am def in... Now off to look at some shoes and gloves.
Did you have a preferred day?
Check out www.sportbiketrackgear.com (//http://). When you order, be sure to call them to place it...often results in even cheaper prices than the online price. For closeouts, check out www.motorcyclegear.com (//http://).
Happy shopping!
Quote from: Ducatician on September 08, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
Did you have a preferred day?
It will be the 30th... I been keeping my eyes on couple of online stores. I'm gonna go by coleman at falls church and try some gloves there to get the right size.
Do you all just ride to wv a day ahead? or how does that work :-\
Oh and thanks for the sportsbiketrackgear link. They give military discount too [thumbsup]
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 08, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
Do you all just ride to wv a day ahead? or how does that work :-\
Brian and I trailered out there behind his jeep the day before and camped overnight. Most people recommend trailering to the track. Pepe has ridden out there, so you can ask him about that. Probably best to figure that out for sure just before the 2 week discount registration deadline when number of folks is more firm.
Quote from: 99Zulu on September 08, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
It will be the 30th... I been keeping my eyes on couple of online stores. I'm gonna go by coleman at falls church and try some gloves there to get the right size.
Do you all just ride to wv a day ahead? or how does that work :-\
Heh, I used to ride my bike up to the track in the morning and ride back afterwards. [laugh] But the best way is to trailer up the day before and either camp (weather permitting) or get a motel room nearby.
EDIT: just saw Jim's post. Riding the bike up there wasn't a huge hassle, I would prepare everything the night before, pack the essential tools and head out early in the morning. Roger and his crew have always been cool with me and reassured me that if anything went wrong with the bike they would find a way to help me get it back home. [thumbsup] For me the main negative of riding the bike up is that it gets really exhausting to the point that I would end up skipping work the day after.
This could work for me since there is nothing on the NESBA circuit for that weekend. The 16/17th are at VIR North track so I will have a weekend of rest in between. If I can get a hold of a trailer I could help someone else get their bike up there. I normally fill the back of my cab and bed with all my gear, so getting 2 peoples stuff in it would be interesting.
Camping for sure....I can bring the smoker for some tasty smoked chicken and meat
Quote from: venomousr1993 on September 08, 2011, 02:56:49 PM
Camping for sure....I can bring the smoker for some tasty smoked chicken and meat
DID SOMEONE SAY SMOKER?!!! I'M SO FACKIN' IN!
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