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Title: WSBK
Post by: kopfjäger on September 22, 2011, 10:11:34 AM
WSBK will race in Russia in 2012.

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-news/8861-agreement-signed-in-rome-to-bring-fim-superbike-world-championship-to-russia-in-2012-.html (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-news/8861-agreement-signed-in-rome-to-bring-fim-superbike-world-championship-to-russia-in-2012-.html)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: desmoquattro on September 22, 2011, 10:59:54 AM
WSBK will race in Russia in 2012.

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-news/8861-agreement-signed-in-rome-to-bring-fim-superbike-world-championship-to-russia-in-2012-.html (http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/5-news/8861-agreement-signed-in-rome-to-bring-fim-superbike-world-championship-to-russia-in-2012-.html)

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Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on September 23, 2011, 07:34:24 AM
Wonder if it's an add on or a replacement for a current venue?


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zarn02 on September 23, 2011, 12:31:31 PM
Interesting. Do they say anywhere when during the season they'll go there? I'd sort of assume during June or July, looking at average temperatures.

In other news, MotoGP will be going to Argentina in 2013.


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on September 24, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
OK, here is what they think it will be next year:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/11092412wsbkcal.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/11092412wsbkcal.htm)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on September 27, 2011, 09:16:42 AM
Suzook may be hitting the trail for 2012.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/110926a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/110926a.htm)



Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 04, 2011, 06:29:17 AM
Saw the post in the Silly Season thread of Elias possibly moving to WSBK on a BMW or maybe a Ducati team. Which made me think, are the Duc teams going to run the new 1199 in WSBK next year or not? I would think they are but I have read that maybe they won't. Does anyone have any hard facts on that?

I finally watched Magny Cours race 1 last night and the whole time I was thinking "what is Checa riding next year?" Is he staying with Althea? Will they race Ducs? And if so, which one? Old 1098Rs or new unproven 1199s? Curious minds want to know. [popcorn]


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: desmoquattro on October 04, 2011, 06:37:00 AM
Saw the post in the Silly Season thread of Elias possibly moving to WSBK on a BMW or maybe a Ducati team. Which made me think, are the Duc teams going to run the new 1199 in WSBK next year or not? I would think they are but I have read that maybe they won't. Does anyone have any hard facts on that?

I finally watched Magny Cours race 1 last night and the whole time I was thinking "what is Checa riding next year?" Is he staying with Althea? Will they race Ducs? And if so, which one? Old 1098Rs or new unproven 1199s? Curious minds want to know. [popcorn]

They'll run the 1199 Panigale in Superstock next year, and in Superbike the following year. All this comes from Troy Bayliis' Facebook post ;D


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: MadDuck on October 04, 2011, 08:29:32 AM
They'll run the 1199 Panigale in Superstock next year, and in Superbike the following year. All this comes from Troy Bayliis' Facebook post ;D

Interesting. So after winning the Rider's Championship & the Constructor's Championship they'll still be running that dinosaur one more year?


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: desmoquattro on October 04, 2011, 08:35:46 AM
Interesting. So after winning the Rider's Championship & the Constructor's Championship they'll still be running that dinosaur one more year?

It's a very fast dinosaur ;D


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 04, 2011, 09:04:54 AM
True. It is. [thumbsup] [Dolph] And you can't say it lacks development. ;D Did anyone at any track really put the hurt on Checa? Not that I recall. 

And I haven't read or heard of any major updates on the other bikes in the series for 2012. With Yammyhammer out I don't see any private teams running the R1. Suzuki is no threat. Kawasaki is hanging in there... better than last year. So I guess if the big players are still Checa/1098R, the 'prillers and the BMWs then I suppose it's just a big do over in 2012. Same same. Wonder if Max will bother to come back? Same for Nori. He had some results just not very consistant. It will be interesting to see who goes where over the winter. I have a feeling Corser will just be heading home to stay. :P


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: derby on October 04, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
Interesting. So after winning the Rider's Championship & the Constructor's Championship they'll still be running that dinosaur one more year?

as i've mentioned before, they did the same thing when the 999 launched.


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zarn02 on October 04, 2011, 11:47:02 AM
Any idea how this will affect production and sales?

Am I correct in remembering that when the 1098 came out, they did one more year of limited-edition 999R (RS?) bikes just for homologation?

So might we see a 1198-we'll-sell-just-what-we-must-R bikes in '12?


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 04, 2011, 12:24:12 PM
  I have a feeling Corser will just be heading home 

there was a rumor I read somewhere that he will be taking a development rider and PR position for BMW....


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: gm2 on October 05, 2011, 09:56:21 AM
there's no way at this point in his career that corser is going to pay to ride (bring a sponsor to a privateer, etc)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 06, 2011, 09:39:42 AM
Yeah, he's got nothing left to prove at this point. He's been there, done that. He could hang it up right now and be proud about what he's done. Like Bayliss, nothing wrong with saying screw it and walking away in one piece. [thumbsup] [bow_down]


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 13, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
New 2012 calender...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111013a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111013a.htm)



Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zarn02 on October 13, 2011, 05:08:05 PM
Already looking forward to next season. [thumbsup]

Also pretty curious about the round in Russia.


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 14, 2011, 03:16:13 AM
Already looking forward to next season. [thumbsup]

Also pretty curious about the round in Russia.

also wondering why Magny Cours is now the last round and Portomaio is the penultimate round...


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 14, 2011, 08:55:15 AM
The French round used to wrap up the season before Portimao came on line.


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 17, 2011, 03:10:20 AM
Yeah, he's got nothing left to prove at this point. He's been there, done that. He could hang it up right now and be proud about what he's done. Like Bayliss, nothing wrong with saying screw it and walking away in one piece. [thumbsup] [bow_down]

and it seems that is more or less what he is doing...sorta kinda...

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/troy-corser-announces-retirement-motorcycle-racing/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/troy-corser-announces-retirement-motorcycle-racing/)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: webspoke on October 17, 2011, 07:56:16 AM
Chaz Davies and ParkinGo headed to SBK with a Ducati  [thumbsup]
http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/174138/1/davies_set_for_wsbk_with_parkingo_ducati.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/174138/1/davies_set_for_wsbk_with_parkingo_ducati.html)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: fastwin on October 17, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
That's great!! [thumbsup] I really like Davies and his addition to the grid will make up for the loss of the Yamaha Italia team. A part of me was hoping he'd stay in WSS and repeat as champ. But he and the Park N Go team will be a welcome asset to WSBK! [popcorn]


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 19, 2011, 07:43:24 AM
(http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/greencorser.jpg)

a fond recap of Corser in farewell here-> http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111018troycorserreti.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111018troycorserreti.htm)

but his "Respect all and fear none" quote is a great one, from a story I didn't know before exactly as it was told this time...also I enjoyed this in closing...." Assuredly Corser enjoyed his retirement party. This is, after all, a man who raced with the word "pussy" on his helmet and has a reputation as someone who knows how to have a good time."


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: Triple J on October 19, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
Nice article.  [thumbsup]

My favorite quote:

"The BMW World Superbike team actually looks more lost in 2011 than the Ducati MotoGP squad."

 [laugh]

...and his 'croc' bike is sweet!  ;D


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zarn02 on October 27, 2011, 09:16:36 PM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111027sbrules.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111027sbrules.htm)

I know they already run a "one bike" rule in BSB. I wonder how close to the same the new WSBK rule will be? I'd like to hear more about what exactly constitutes a "rolling chassis" in this context. If someone bins it, it'll certainly make more work for the crew...

(And in other news, the Ducatis will be getting fatter next year.)


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 28, 2011, 03:21:15 AM
(And in other news, the Ducatis will be getting fatter next year.)

I read that too and I couldn't help but immediatly go to the movie "Airplane" when Johnny comes in and does the "...and Leon's getting LAAARRRGGGEERR..." moment...


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: gm2 on October 28, 2011, 04:44:15 AM
13 lbs sounds like... a lot.


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: zooom on October 28, 2011, 05:06:23 AM
13 lbs sounds like... a lot.

I think it is a dual strike against the Ducati and a warning shot over the bow for KTM and EBR Pegasus...the KTM is a non issue in my opinion...but still some fair warning based on the dominance of the Ducati's this season....that and a possible attempt at trying to put a kybosh on the usage or scuttle the Ducati ship of the 1199...especially with this quote as well...

"...WSBK also mandated an unspecified change in the handicap rules for V-twins, with details to be provided in the future (after the public debut of Ducati's "frameless" new Superbike next month, perhaps?). ..."


Title: Re: WSBK
Post by: gm2 on October 28, 2011, 05:11:44 AM
I think it is a dual strike against the Ducati and a warning shot over the bow for KTM and EBR Pegasus...the KTM is a non issue in my opinion...but still some fair warning based on the dominance of the Ducati's this season....

that's the thing though, the ducatiS weren't dominant this year.  1 guy was.  same thing happened (eventually) when they introduced the 1198 and troy beat the shit out of everyone again.

somewhere in the nitty there has to be some IZ_-math document that makes this change make sense.  at least, on paper.


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