Title: What next? Post by: chixstrip on September 23, 2011, 03:47:50 AM http://www.monster.ducati.com/ (http://www.monster.ducati.com/)
Looks kinda beefy at the tail section. Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducpainter on September 23, 2011, 03:50:22 AM Looks like a sport tourer hiding under that cover.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 23, 2011, 04:10:37 AM on the Monster site?
seems more like new touring kits for the Monster. Title: Re: What next? Post by: spolic on September 23, 2011, 08:15:40 AM To generate more interest, they put a Busa hump on a Monster!
Title: Re: What next? Post by: bevel on September 23, 2011, 08:57:21 AM To generate more interest, they put a Busa hump on a Monster! <SteveIrwin> "Let's see if they notice a difference" </SteveIrwin> Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 23, 2011, 09:22:00 AM Who has a pic of that abomonation from occ
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Curmudgeon on September 23, 2011, 09:46:36 AM I'd be seriously bent if that were the case, since a Ducati variant of the F800ST was what I'd really wanted when I bought my 796. I'd reasoned that, with the discontinuation of the ST's, Ducati had assumed no market existed and the the long-legged were simply content to ride GS/MTS-style bikes. Not that I'm dissatisfied with my choice, but definitely a more relaxed bike with better wind protection on a 796 chassis would have rung my bell more! Looks like a sport tourer hiding under that cover. Title: Re: What next? Post by: thought on September 23, 2011, 09:52:00 AM i agree with it prob being a st upgrade or st bits for the monster
Title: Re: What next? Post by: sugarcrook on September 23, 2011, 04:35:10 PM You guys are all wrong. That's just a REALLY swollen tank.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducpainter on September 23, 2011, 05:04:51 PM on the Monster site? A Monster with different pegs and seat...seems more like new touring kits for the Monster. and panniers and a top case would be... what? Title: Re: What next? Post by: Duc Buz on September 23, 2011, 05:44:02 PM Maybe an SS model? Kinda looks like a half fairing under there.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: the_Journeyman on September 23, 2011, 07:34:18 PM Large water or oil cooler.
Tank bag & tail bag. Either a Monster ST package or a smaller ST bike that falls into the 800cc class. It's possible there is a 796 designed to compete with the Tiger 800. JM Title: Re: What next? Post by: Grampa on September 23, 2011, 07:49:36 PM 250 scooter with baggage and Toasty ride'n cupcake.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: danaid on September 23, 2011, 08:34:28 PM http://www.monster.ducati.com/ (http://www.monster.ducati.com/) Looks kinda beefy at the tail section. When you compare that covered pic with the side view of an 1100Evo they seem to have the same tall ass. Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 23, 2011, 11:50:53 PM well it can only be a variation of the Monster since it's on the Monster site.
I truly think it's a Monster City or Monster Touring Taller bars, luggage, etc. Title: Re: What next? Post by: gr1976 on September 24, 2011, 05:38:22 AM jato boosters....count me in
Title: Re: What next? Post by: The Bacon Junkie on September 24, 2011, 07:20:09 AM 796 Multi? :D
[bacon] Title: Re: What next? Post by: nikkimonster on September 24, 2011, 07:40:54 AM monster 1199S
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Betty on September 24, 2011, 01:36:52 PM Title: Re: What next? Post by: M.N. on September 27, 2011, 01:08:02 PM looks like a touring kit (possibly compensating for canceling the sport touring style GT1000, the background graphic with city & mountain landscapes also seems to hint at this possibility), although we could all hope it was some type of collaborative Ducati SpA * Radical Ducati offering ... well at least I could hope.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on September 28, 2011, 12:26:31 PM Monster GT
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 28, 2011, 02:19:32 PM (http://www.monster.ducati.com/images/moto.png)
I was able to find the source photo for the site. I did some photoshop overlays of the bike with other models. the evo and the current 696/796 I think this is an updated smaller model IMO the shape of the fabric indicates the high exhausts are kept. not a touring model. but there may be a larger screen in there the mirrors may be changed and the seat is the low style of the new evo but every other shape lines up perfectly with a non 1100 evo model.. edit: it's wierd but that is the stock height of our tails. Title: Re: What next? Post by: ungeheuer on September 29, 2011, 03:44:29 AM I'm beside myself with anticipation :-\.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: mikeb on September 29, 2011, 05:11:08 AM The sketch looks like 4v heads and a radiator........
---edit--- My bad....sketch was for older model. Thought it was the updated bike. Title: Re: What next? Post by: stopintime on September 29, 2011, 05:19:23 AM Off road Diavel [laugh]
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 29, 2011, 10:12:26 AM The other possibility... a trellis subframe ???
or maybe a smaller 400 again? ooo ooo a new motor? 350 single? Title: Re: What next? Post by: StephenC on September 29, 2011, 01:06:10 PM Maybe it's a scooter? It is being targeted at the Asian market after all.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on September 29, 2011, 01:19:20 PM actually that is a good point.
i think we are indeed looking at a new Monster 400 Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on September 29, 2011, 02:16:30 PM It's being released at Sepang, Malaysian GP which doesn't mean it's for the Asian market [laugh]
Title: Re: What next? Post by: muskrat on September 29, 2011, 02:24:45 PM 796 Multi? :D I'd bite on this concept if it weren't for the fact that I've heard of no one buying the half tard plus the price might be too close to the standard multi IMO. For that I'll get a Yami or KTM[bacon] Title: Re: What next? Post by: duccarlos on September 29, 2011, 05:59:34 PM You guys have it all wrong. It's the Puerto Rican version of the Monster with the Jlo sized ass.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on September 30, 2011, 06:01:34 AM Just read on another forum that Ducati have said it's another version of the 696 and will only be for the Asian market. Something to do with the new factory in Thailand so expect a few more for that market
Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on September 30, 2011, 06:05:51 AM Just read on another forum that Ducati have said it's another version of the 696 and will only be for the Asian market. Something to do with the new factory in Thailand so expect a few more for that market that would be pretty amazing considering they haven't built that factory yet. Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on September 30, 2011, 06:09:43 AM Quote "Ducati and they have confirmed this is an Asian market only Monster which will have a slightly modified 696 engine. It will not be available in the UK or Europe. It’s the first product to come from a new assembly plant built by Ducati in Thailand" That's what I read Title: Re: What next? Post by: Latinbalar on September 30, 2011, 06:16:07 AM Since we are throwing out ideas out like pitches here's one.
[evil] A complete frameless bike. The engine has a subsection to hold the head tube, then a seat bolted to the rear cylinder head. This would create the most ultimate naked bike ever made. [drool] Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 04, 2011, 08:44:11 AM looks like a pretty standard non-evo monster to me with a windscreen and low seat. without seeing the motor, there's no reasonable way to guess as to what is under there.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Bishamon on October 04, 2011, 11:04:14 AM looks like a pretty standard non-evo monster to me with a windscreen and low seat. without seeing the motor, there's no reasonable way to guess as to what is under there. The current rumour is that it is a Monster 795 - basically a 696 with a larger bore: http://worlds-news-zak999.blogspot.com/2011/07/ducati-gives-discount-monster-795.html (http://worlds-news-zak999.blogspot.com/2011/07/ducati-gives-discount-monster-795.html) Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 04, 2011, 11:14:16 AM seems like it would be pretty difficult to successfully market it and a 796 Monster, might be better of with a 400 for the Asian markets. seems more likely to be a 696 or 796 City or Touring model.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on October 04, 2011, 11:22:21 AM Actually makes sense
a796 motor in the shorter 696 chassis for the asian market But i doubt a new motor just the 796 with the 66mm stroke Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 04, 2011, 11:24:51 AM i highly doubt the "795" will be present in a market with a "796"
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on October 04, 2011, 11:38:42 AM i highly doubt the "795" will be present in a market with a "796" I agree, maybe they will just offer the 696, 795 and 1100 in the asian market just like the 695 is only offered in teh Australian market Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on October 04, 2011, 01:19:01 PM Asian market always has a 400cc due to tax/output licensing laws there (Japan).
Probably will not see a mid range below 800 cc Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 04, 2011, 02:36:55 PM You saying there is already an M396?!? :P
Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on October 04, 2011, 06:32:12 PM You saying there is already an M396?!? :P no, they haven't made a 400cc class bike for a while -- 2004? maybe they won't be doing that at all given they don't want to have "entry level" bikes anymore. Title: Re: What next? Post by: jvax on October 05, 2011, 02:02:01 AM Yeah the monster 400 was made until 06. People don't really miss them in Japan, because many riders realized that if you want a Ducati, a 400cc won't satisfy you. Yes, I'm one of them riders ;D Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on October 05, 2011, 04:39:20 AM Yeah the monster 400 was made until 06. People don't really miss them in Japan, because many riders realized that if you want a Ducati, a 400cc won't satisfy you. Yes, I'm one of them riders ;D that's very interesting, but not surprising. i assume it has to do with the pricing too, they probably can't make them cheaply enough to warrant it and since the later models were just sleeved-down 6xx cc models with a smaller crank, they actually were a tad heavy. the old engine (right side clutch slave) was lighter and the 350/400 models were around 172kg, which was lighter across the board than the larger models. the '96 600ss nuda was the lightest production bike Ducati made, at least according to Mr Falloon Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on October 05, 2011, 07:13:45 AM I agree, maybe they will just offer the 696, 795 and 1100 in the asian market just like the 695 is only offered in teh Australian market We had 695's here in the UK Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 05, 2011, 07:20:45 AM We "had" them here in the US too. Until it was only 696/1100 and later 796
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Betty on October 05, 2011, 07:26:11 PM I agree, maybe they will just offer the 696, 795 and 1100 in the asian market just like the 695 is only offered in teh Australian market Not sure if that was a typo or not ... but it seems to be causing some confusion. The Australian Monster line-up is currently: 659 696 796 1100 Yes, we also had the 695 in Australia too prior to the 'new-gen' release. By way of explanation ... we have graduated licencing down here so while you have a learners permit or provisional licence you couldn't ride a Ducati - so they introduced the less powerful/restricted 659 (similarly a restricted 620 was previously available). The main restrictions are power and capacity (until not that long ago you could only ride up to 250cc on your L's & P's) ... but it can be complicated and technical. Oh ... and it usually takes about four years before you graduate to a full 'unrestricted' licence. I'm still surprised they persist with the 696 down here though. Title: Re: What next? Post by: Curmudgeon on October 05, 2011, 07:30:05 PM Looks like a sport tourer hiding under that cover. A little birdie who went to the dealer meeting told me today definitely no ST, and he's seen everything for 2012. Good thing too or he'd be dead meat! ;) Title: Re: What next? Post by: rac3r on October 06, 2011, 07:07:10 AM And it is............A 795 [laugh]
Quote In addition to existing model updates, a brand new 2012 Ducati Monster 795 model, developed exclusively for Asia, will be unveiled during the upcoming Sepang MotoGP event in Malaysia. The specially developed model represents an important introduction for the iconic Monster model into the Asia Pacific. www.ducatithailand.com/webboard/topic.php?id=00000656 (http://) Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 06, 2011, 08:02:07 AM well, there it be on an official webpage, just no pitcher jus yet
Title: Re: What next? Post by: zooom on October 06, 2011, 08:24:53 AM that picture of the Multi in grey doesn't look half bad....but, back to Monsters....so they'll have a 696 and then the 99 more CC's for who kows how much more, they'll have a 795...I guess instead of the 1100Evo?!?!?!
Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on October 06, 2011, 09:05:16 AM that picture of the Multi in grey doesn't look half bad....but, back to Monsters....so they'll have a 696 and then the 99 more CC's for who kows how much more, they'll have a 795...I guess instead of the 1100Evo?!?!?! I seriously see the lineup in Asia as 696, 795, 1100 as I doubt they'll drop the 696 or keep the 796. since it seems the whole idea is lower ride height in their lineup. Title: Re: What next? Post by: stopintime on October 06, 2011, 09:50:28 AM It's an Asian 795 [roll] http://www.bike.no/content/2567/ (http://www.bike.no/content/2567/) ;) Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on October 06, 2011, 10:47:18 AM the new Multi with bags really feels like they merged the ST and Multi
Title: Re: What next? Post by: thought on October 06, 2011, 10:53:35 AM kind of a letdown, but i guess it's good if you live in asia.
i guess i'll be seeing a lot more monsters when i stop by bkk next time. Title: Re: What next? Post by: Raux on October 06, 2011, 11:19:01 AM the new Multi with bags really feels like they merged the ST and Multi still the Multi is so much taller, more open, more utilitarian and much less sport styling than the ST. NOW, if Ducati really wanted to add the option of a hard bagged Diavel to the lineup then we'd be talking about a cool tourer with a touch of sportiness Title: Re: What next? Post by: danaid on October 06, 2011, 02:33:32 PM still the Multi is so much taller, more open, more utilitarian and much less sport styling than the ST. NOW, if Ducati really wanted to add the option of a hard bagged Diavel, with a larger passenger seat, to the lineup then we'd be talking about a cool tourer with a touch of sportiness Fixed it for you ;) Title: Re: What next? Post by: Slide Panda on October 20, 2011, 05:04:26 AM So the 795 is being unveiled right now
http://www.monster.ducati.com/events_Follow-Live-Broadcasting.html (http://www.monster.ducati.com/events_Follow-Live-Broadcasting.html) - just happened to check and found the stream live. Title: Re: What next? Post by: Slide Panda on October 20, 2011, 05:37:15 AM Ok ,so they pulled the cover off and it looks like a Monster... not sure what the big top-case like hump in the back is..
http://www.monster.ducati.com/ (http://www.monster.ducati.com/) Title: Re: What next? Post by: Pedro-bot on October 20, 2011, 05:48:12 AM Are you watching the live broadcast?
Looks like the current model.......... :P Did I miss something? ??? Title: Re: What next? Post by: Slide Panda on October 20, 2011, 06:09:12 AM Yeah it was the live broadcast.
Doesn't look like anything different... not sure what the deal is. I guess we'll see once some tech details come out Title: Re: What next? Post by: Slide Panda on October 20, 2011, 07:00:42 AM Tech is out
http://www.monster.ducati.com/M795.html (http://www.monster.ducati.com/M795.html) Looks to be a 696 with a bigger engine. DSS, 3 Spoke wheels, similar or same suspension (didn't side-by-side the tech tables) Yeah... nothing really new here. Just a model targeted at the asian market - so the site says. But I don't understand it... why not just a 696. Title: Re: What next? Post by: zooom on October 20, 2011, 07:49:15 AM maybe due to tiered liscencing?
Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 20, 2011, 07:56:46 AM 796 has a higher seat height iirc, perhaps that's the reason?
Title: Re: What next? Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 20, 2011, 10:27:33 AM A "Monster designed for the Asian market"? 795??? uuuuuuuuuhh WTF?!?!? ???
They might as well have released one of these: (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NvnTfg2lIaI/RkwdPGoG_5I/AAAAAAAAAIg/tsEhNpD8YTw/s320/polished-turd.jpg) Title: Re: What next? Post by: junior varsity on October 20, 2011, 10:31:48 AM melted babe ruth bar?
Title: Re: What next? Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 20, 2011, 11:42:11 AM melted babe ruth bar? Polished turd.It used to appy to BMW-lovers, guess we're next. (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs347.ash2/62728_10150265408635212_874775211_14955027_4523209_n.jpg) Title: Re: What next? Post by: DRKWNG on October 20, 2011, 01:02:29 PM Title: Re: What next? Post by: jvax on October 21, 2011, 04:43:53 AM Ok so how does a 796 motor in a 696 chasis make the bike "tailor-made for Asia"??? http://www.monster.ducati.com/M795_tech-spec.html (http://www.monster.ducati.com/M795_tech-spec.html) AFAIK, the 796 was launched in Japan in September 2010, and the 696 back in 2008, and I know for a fact that both bikes have also been launched in other Asian countries... Title: Re: What next? Post by: ducatiz on October 21, 2011, 05:20:40 AM Tailor made probably means that a lot of people there want an 800cc small bike.
I mean, it's no stereotype that asians tend to be shorter folks. So they took their shortest bike and uprated the engine. Title: Re: What next? Post by: muskrat on October 21, 2011, 07:23:09 AM They could have spent the marketing dollars into non expanded tanks. Nothing exciting IMO.
Title: Re: What next? Post by: thought on October 21, 2011, 07:53:45 PM They could have spent the marketing dollars into non expanded tanks. Nothing exciting IMO. yeah, nothing exciting, but think of this way... if they capture even a small percentage of the asian market share, thats what will wind up funding the R&D on non expanding tanks. |