Ducati Monster Forum

Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: weas on September 27, 2011, 01:36:38 PM

Title: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on September 27, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
I recently bought a 2007 S2R 1000 w/ 3,400 miles on it. It came with full Termignoni exhaust, which I have recently noticed popping a lot when I let off the throttle. Whether it has been doing this since I got it or not, I'm not really sure -- but I just started noticing it (I've put ~200mi on the bike, would be more but I haven't changed the belts yet). While the popping doesn't really bother me, I wanted to know whether it was normal or not. In my experience with cars, the times I've dealt with a lot of backfiring is when I cracked a header/exhaust/bad seal; although I see no damage on the exhaust, could this have something to do with it? Again, I have no problem with the backfire, just wanted to make sure it was normal.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: YellowDuck on September 27, 2011, 02:04:13 PM
Afterfiring/Popping is usually caused by a lean fuel condition.

If the Termis were added without flash/adjustment to the fueling system (curve, trim, etc.) that needs to be done.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: ducpainter on September 27, 2011, 02:34:56 PM
Popping on decel can also be caused by an exhaust leak.

If the bike runs well otherwise I would check.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on September 27, 2011, 03:27:54 PM
The exhaust was dealer installed, and I was told the ECU was set for it; I have the receipt.

The bike runs very well, I'm in love with it. I'll check for an exhaust leak here in a few. Thanks.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: EEL on September 27, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
I'm almost positive this is an exhaust leak issue. I had the same problem. Turned out the gasket between the header pipe and the head was completely blown out. I replaced and all was well again.

I couldnt event feel the exhaust leak but once I removed and inspected, I saw exhaust soot on the inside flange indicative of a leak.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: Slide Panda on September 27, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
+1 to checking for an exhaust leak. It doesn't need to be anything grand either. My former 620 had high-mouts and the connection at one of the riser s-pipes had just come a touch loose - which resulted in popping on decel. I loosened the joints, wiggled them about a bit, tightened it back up and the problem was solved.

Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on September 27, 2011, 04:29:09 PM
Okay, so I went out to check the exhaust and 5 seconds later it was immediately clear where the leak was:

(http://i.imgur.com/Nv7hX.jpg)

Turned the bike on and it's just blasting exhaust.  [bang] Now my question is, what fell out and where can I buy it?  [drink]
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: WetDuc on September 27, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
The dealer should have that plug.  Its a BSP thread bolt. 
Funny, my S2R1000 did the exact same thing and that plug fell out.   I replaced it with the old one from the cat converter.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on September 27, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: WetDuc on September 27, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
The dealer should have that plug.  Its a BSP thread bolt. 
Funny, my S2R1000 did the exact same thing and that plug fell out.   I replaced it with the old one from the cat converter.

There's no dealer in Arkansas, so I'll call Dallas tomorrow. Thanks, glad to know it's just a plug and not something bigger.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: talljoker on September 28, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
I have the same issue but I think I like it...my friends say when I downshift to pass I put out flames...

Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: Howie on September 28, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
I don't remember the size, but
http://www.mcmaster.com/#brass-pipe-fittings-and-pipe/=e9n4m6 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#brass-pipe-fittings-and-pipe/=e9n4m6)
or a local plumbing supply store.  The thread is a British Standard Pipe Thread.  You have one in the other pipe for them to match.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: EEL on September 28, 2011, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: talljoker on September 28, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
I have the same issue but I think I like it...my friends say when I downshift to pass I put out flames...



Tell us how much you like it when you have to pull your head to replace your burnt exhaust valve.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on September 29, 2011, 12:29:47 PM
Quote from: howie on September 28, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
I don't remember the size, but
http://www.mcmaster.com/#brass-pipe-fittings-and-pipe/=e9n4m6 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#brass-pipe-fittings-and-pipe/=e9n4m6)
or a local plumbing supply store.  The thread is a British Standard Pipe Thread.  You have one in the other pipe for them to match.

Thank you, sir. I'll head to the store later.  [clap]
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: ducpainter on September 29, 2011, 12:35:25 PM
Use plenty of penetrating oil when removing the other plug.

I've never seen one fall out before, and sometimes they can be stubborn coming out and will strip threads.
Title: Re: Termignoni backfiring/popping
Post by: weas on October 21, 2011, 12:08:24 AM
Finally got the plug in after some procrastination, and the exhaust sounds so much better. ;D

Thanks for the help, guys. It feels good to be back on the Duc.  [Dolph]