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Title: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: orangelion03 on October 08, 2011, 06:38:28 AM I had thought that dragging the knee didnt become popular until Agostini in the 60s. This is John Surtees on what looks like a Vincent in the 50s.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/surtees.jpg) Great photo isnt it? Reminds me of Superbikes in the early 80s. Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: Bill in OKC on October 08, 2011, 06:46:21 AM Looks like knee sliders and frame sliders too. maybe a quick change front wheel?
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: orangelion03 on October 08, 2011, 06:57:42 AM I keep looking at the phot and am so impressed with his form...Textbook!!
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: Bill in OKC on October 08, 2011, 07:22:29 AM Not a lot of difference in style here:
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/mgp_2006_01_25_Sepang_Casey.jpg (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/mgp_2006_01_25_Sepang_Casey.jpg) Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: mickyvee on October 08, 2011, 08:11:59 AM I had thought that dragging the knee didnt become popular until Agostini in the 60s. This is John Surtees on what looks like a Vincent in the 50s. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is most definitely not John Surtees. That picture is from either BIKE or SUPERBIKE magazine from a good few years ago. The rider may be Rupert Paul. I have the very issue with this article in it, but it would take me a long time to dig it out! Some time during the mid 90's seems to ring a bell, but it is not a period shot.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/surtees.jpg) Great photo isnt it? Reminds me of Superbikes in the early 80s. Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: Bill in OKC on October 08, 2011, 08:18:14 AM Bubble bursted [drink]
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: orangelion03 on October 08, 2011, 08:26:53 AM I appreciate the correction!!!!!!! I copied the photo from a facebook page and assumed it was correct. This explains the "modern" technique then!!! ;D
I was just about to post these and it shows that even in the early 80s, they werent hanging off quite as much as the picture in my OP. Still pretty impressive lean angle on the first one! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/Eddie_Lawson_Classic_Superbike_Wallpaper.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/Baldwin_Pocono82.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/13142-540x355.jpg) Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: fastwin on October 08, 2011, 08:50:46 AM Lawson and Baldwin!!! Two of my favorites. [thumbsup] [Dolph]
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: mickyvee on October 08, 2011, 09:25:18 AM The guy on the Vincent is indeed very impressive! And yes, Vincents came from the factory with QD wheels, front and rear, which required no tools to remove them. We seem to have gone backwards in this respect!
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: extra330 on October 13, 2011, 05:41:27 AM I don't think they had Duct tape in the 50's did they? Looks like the rider is using a duct tape knee slider [laugh]
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducpainter on October 13, 2011, 10:45:56 AM Pretty sure King Kenny originated the knee down/hanging off style.
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: fastwin on October 13, 2011, 12:20:05 PM That's the way I remember it. [thumbsup] [Dolph]
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: kopfjäger on October 13, 2011, 12:28:08 PM I think Robert's and Sheene used to argue the fact. Knee out, knee down.
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ungeheuer on October 14, 2011, 03:45:43 AM Pretty sure King Kenny originated the knee down/hanging off style. Pat Hennen and Aussie Gregg Hansford were at it too..(http://www.deejay51.com/LAV76%20UNL%20HENNEN%20LEADS%20HANSFORD.jpg) Poor Bazza.... he was a bloody character... Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2011, 03:50:25 AM I had one of those early Bell Star helmets...tiny field of view. ;D
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducatiz on October 14, 2011, 03:59:36 AM (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/orangelion03/surtees.jpg) if this is a 1990s pic wtf is with that "helmet"..? is that a construction hat? Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2011, 04:02:03 AM Looks more like a harness racing drivers hat to me.
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducatiz on October 14, 2011, 04:03:26 AM Is there any course that would let him on with that? it doesn't seem to be remotely protective.
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2011, 04:06:55 AM Depends if he has a good fake DOT sticker or not. ;)
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducatiz on October 14, 2011, 04:30:53 AM lol
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: mickyvee on October 16, 2011, 05:22:33 AM The guy on the Vincent is a journalist. The article appeared in an issue of Performance Bikes some time in the early to mid 90's. The first racer to regularly get his knee down was the great Jarno Saarinen, who was an ex ice racer, hence the technique. A certain K.Roberts watched him racing in 1972 or thereabouts, and adopted the style himself.
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: gatorgrizz27 on October 22, 2011, 03:07:55 PM Looking at that front tire makes me squirm!
Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: Ducmania on October 22, 2011, 04:40:06 PM Yes, Duct Tape was around in the 50's. That's how we held that old British junk together. In fact Duct tape was invented by 3M for use in WWII (40's). It was originally called Duck tape and was Olive Drab in color. After the war people used it for everything including taping ducts, hence, the peacetime name of Duct Tape.
A little history from an old guy. Tom Title: Re: Knee dragging in the 50s Post by: ducatiz on October 22, 2011, 06:33:44 PM Yes, Duct Tape was around in the 50's. That's how we held that old British junk together. In fact Duct tape was invented by 3M for use in WWII (40's). It was originally called Duck tape and was Olive Drab in color. After the war people used it for everything including taping ducts, hence, the peacetime name of Duct Tape. A little history from an old guy. Tom duck tape was first made by Johnson & Johnson in 1941 or 42 for the war effort.. 3m invented adhesive tape in the 20s. http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ducttape.htm (http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/ducttape.htm) everyone was making everything back then.. IBM and Smith Corona making guns! whoda thot? |