Ducati Monster Forum

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/577/11229/Motorcycle-Article/New-Ducati-Monster-for-Sepang-MotoGP-.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/577/11229/Motorcycle-Article/New-Ducati-Monster-for-Sepang-MotoGP-.aspx)

http://www.monster.ducati.com/ (http://www.monster.ducati.com/)

any spy shot? surprised a new redsign so soon.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52595.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52595.0)

theres no pics in that thread either, anything in the text i didnt read it.

I own a monster....... the brand can be tarnished no further

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"Cheapened" how?

Another redesign that further divides the owners? Old Monster owners, New Monster owners, Super-Duper Extra New Monster owners?

Or do you just expect it will be a bad bike?

I believe they are calling it the 795. Exclusively for the asian market. I expect lower spec across the board.

So is your objection the lower spec part, or the Asian market only part? Or the both part? 'Cause Ducati has already done that before with the M400.

Would they avoid tarnishing the marque by forcing this upon all of us equally? ;D

It's probably a scooter with a side car. ;D

This is not a major redesign just a parts bin to meet a certain market

No objections. Just saying.

if I would have know a new design wad coming out I would have waited to purchase my evo

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new designs get you that excited??

Isn't there a LAMS version in the Oz market already?

The new monster may have that new fancy motor?

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(http://www.duccutters.com/GaryTompkins/Originals/ducati_trike_276.jpg)

i like that exhaust....something loks odd though.

Yup. Pretty sure it's called the 625 or something similar.

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There's a thread on one somewhere

Yup. Good call.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49612.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49612.0)

one of the brit guys i met. in belgi has something similar
he has one leg

Edit
actually is his bike befor a paint job
notice the shifter on the right

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Ahh! You beat me to it...  [bang] 

This is what I get for spending all of my time in the No Moto Content section. [roll]

i heard its another desmotre (3-valve),small displacement monster, with twist-grip clutch.

that would be cool

use Peltier cooling and get about 80hp out of it.

i'm not sure i'm capable of figuring out a twist-grip clutch though.

It won't need any of that, it'll have a flux capacitor.

those things burn up muffler bearings like nobody's business. say goodbye to the reasonable service costs on a ducati!

Think they've finally found a place to put the blinker fluid reservoir that it won't get so hot it cooks?

NO COWL FOR YOU! ;D

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Um....  This is what we were holding our breath for?  A "Monster designed for the Asian market"  with all those glaring, significant differences that set it apart from the 796...?  ??? ???

Other than the name, what is the difference?  I did not see any differences in the pics or tech section.

It's basically a 696 with the 796 engine... that's the difference, if that counts.

Good eye. I didn't even notice the dual sided swingarm.

I'm not clear how this warranted even being produced or marketed differently...  It would seem the smaller displacement of the 696 would be better suited for the Asian market...  Also, I am pretty sure you could get a 796 over there if you wanted to...

And 3 spoke wheels.


Yep... I'm confused as to why this exists. Other than to fill a price point gap, that doesn't need to be filled btween the 696 and 796 I cannot tell why they made it.

Intake restrictions to keep it at 40hp?

If it is made for asia, will it be made in asia? 


mitt

1a) It might be produced in Asia
1b) There might be tariffs for bikes not made in some of those markets, hence 1a.

Wasn't there talk of a factory in asia already?

i thought the factory in thailand was confirmed.

well, to be clearer, not so much of a factory, but more like a assembly plant

I don't know about other countries, but i can say for India that no bike under 800 cc can be imported without running into major homologation hassle. That was the reason no 696 was launched in India when Ducati came.

Can you explain this further?

Is this a protectionist measure to protect the local bike industry?  I know there are a boatload of small engine bikes there.

which would explain the need for an 803cc model as the entry level in Asia or at least India

i cannot see someone riding a Ducati in India..  all of the bikes I saw were 50-250 cc most were 2 stroke and they get ridden to death.  the few people who could afford a Ducati probably aren't going to ride it much else they'll be mobbed or the bike stolen...

isnt india one of the fastest growing motorcycle markets in the world?  also, with the dramatic rise of the economy in india, there's going to be a middle class showing up soon which will prob look at ducati's as a marquee bike to have.

i think everyone's just looking at how gm/vw got their foundations into china so early and are now so dominant there.  and getting even a tiny bite of the pie that asia is right now will be huge... esp for a smaller player like ducati.  ducati even managed to get some sort of special licensing for a motorcycle over 250cc's in china that allows them to be plated in shanghai.  right now, only HD and ducatis can have it.  everyone else who imports a bike has to get a plate from a town outside of shanghai which leads to some issues in town.

yes, and they are selling a boatload of Bajaji, Mahindra, Royal, LML and Hero -- all domestically made.  and all of them are very cheap.  the market to sell Ducatis there is very small, and I just don't see a huge number being sold.  Parts of Mumbai feel like the nicest areas of New York, but the reality is that 95% of India is still a third world country.


Interesting, but very different issues in China.  China's upper middle class is growing very large and Shaing Hai is HUGE.  India does not have that level of capital yet.

i think ducs will sell decently simply because they are expensive.  i'm not sure of the mindset/culture in india, but in china/hk/etc, it's def "if you have it, flaunt it".  as long as it's high end and priced outside of the range of most people, they will go after it... in fact that's the main reason for it.

to me, this bike is a no brainer for ducati.  make a spare parts bike out of your cheapest model and get your name/brand into the country.  earmarked as a luxury good for the wealthy, but the main benefit isnt the actual amount of sales you'll get, but the amount of exposure you'll receive as "the bikes to lust over".

Don't know if they are trying to help local manufacturer or what, but they came out with this stupid rule of 800cc for bike and for cars it has to be over 1400cc and for cars alone cost at least 50K, so that once 107% duty kicks in, they can get most revenue.

Even for honda and yamaha who have local manufacturing lineup for local built bike goes upto 250cc then jumps to CBR 1000RR or R1. For a country where average sale price of a bike is close 1200$, its really nice to see these beast for a change, if only roads were better than what they are.