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Hey lookit! Things you can't afford!

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ncr-m4-one-shot/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ncr-m4-one-shot/)

Loving this

Sorry. Travman beat you to it this morning on the Misc. Cool Italian Bikes thread. ;D And yes, I've added that to the list of shit I'll never own. [laugh]

i'll add it to my list as well

More NCR M4 "you can't afford it" stuff... [laugh]

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=46302 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=46302)

Meh...I don't believe anything those guys claim anymore.

They sold a set of Ti rods and pistons to a racer dude....told him the NCR markings wern't on the rods because "We had to stop production of a set of F1 rods for Torro Rosso to build these and didn't have time to mark them".  Probably sounded good to the guy, but I can't imagine the arrogance on claiming to make Ferrari's Ti rods for an F1 engine, let alone "stopping production" so they could re-tool to make a set of duc rods.


Thats like someone claiming they worked for NASA, and were in the middle of fabricating a critical component on the space shuttle....but they stopped building it mid-stream so they could cab up a cup holder for their prius.

It's pretty though....

The space shuttles could have used that cup holder. They were pretty sparse on the interior. Not even any 3M post it note pads. Lots of switches though. ;D

This one definitely deserves its own dedicated thread. It's nice to have it in the Misc. Italian thread too in case someone misses the dedicated thread.

Even if I weren't sending my daughter to Clemson this year, I still couldn't afford one.

Especially the $69.7K 132 HP, 278 lbs. model.  But if I could?  Yea, Hell yea!

LA

me likes but a Cedici would be first.....love the howl they produce. 

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/15/cf3a5b0c-1d8f-4b02-8797-97ff9a322408.jpg)

WOW!

  I'm gonna have to get one of those Italian scales.....

Not a big fan of the exhaust at all, but the rest.....  [drool]

still two wheels so I'll keep it rolling
http://livingflashily.com/ecosse-titanium-series-rr-limited-edition-bike-275-thousand/ (http://livingflashily.com/ecosse-titanium-series-rr-limited-edition-bike-275-thousand/)

*blinks*

To whom, exactly, is that marketed? ???

+1

Do not want

skeet, skeet  [thumbsup]  [Dolph]  [beer]


Ugly and ridiculously expensive, wow!!   [puke]

how the hell should I know >:(
I don't have that kind of cash.

i want to know more about the parts on the M4 One Shot (the one with 130+ hp on a 1200cc 2v).   For example, why is the oil cooler shaped that way?   Is the M4 One Shot's power "simply" a combination of the NCR Stroker Crank + Big Pistons/Cylinders, and their Cams/Valves?  It it reworked further?

I like its specs a lot but it would be hard to choose between the M4 / M4 One-Shot and the Pierobon F042 bikes with similar NCR engine bits... I mean, they are all very high priced and should be a bit lacking in comparison to the 1199 when doing a $/bike & hp/lb comparison - the new 1199 is alleged to have highest hp/lb ratio of any production bike ever made, a veritable rocket with steering.  And price-wise, is likely to be a tad less than the M4 One-Shot or a tricked-out Pierobon F042...  If I had several large piles of cash, it would be quite a decision to make...

(http://www.pierobonframes.com/images/stories/news/F042_Garuda_3.jpg)

(http://www.duccutters.com/pierobon-F042/Originals/pierobon%20F042.jpg)

it if it like the other NCR bikes, the crank and rods and pistons are all dynamically balanced, crank is lightened and polished.  they up the stroke as on the other bikes.   then they basicailly dremel out divots in the head to reduce weight -- like 2000 of them.

golfball style?

exactly.  i have some close-up pics of that New Blue, it was pretty interesting. Not all roudn divots, some are straight cuts but pretty much the entire head surface was done that way.

Post em up!

here is one, you can see a little around the exhaust port.  It's not as radical as I remembered.

(http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/images/new_blue/04.jpg)

(http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/images/new_blue/01.jpg)

I like Celli's Codatronca more.

I guess, if you like batmobiles.

i like the batmobile from 1989 Batman, the best batman movie ever made period end of story.  (recent ones are ok, i guess...)

Fantastic.  This is the distilled essence of an air cooled motorcycle.  Lighten the bejesus out of it, and increase performance when possible.  Asphalt & Rubber must have their heads up their a$$es because 'only' 130hp in a sub-300 pound bike would be like riding a nuclear explosion.  Add 100-150lbs as the NCR designer said, and you then have current sportbike weight.

Crazy expensive?  Yes. Tour de force craftsmanship?  Certainly.  But for those of you not knowing who these are marketed towards, I have a local Ducati mechanic who purchased two New Blue NCRs when they were new.  Bought by his customers, sight unseen no questions asked.  I saw #12 or #13, it was outstanding.

I'd expect no less from the new bike.  Love it.

Really? I love the exhaust,it suits that bike well IMHO. Would I out it on my bike? No,but it fits that one.

i just want the motor - NCR Corse 1200 - 138hp 2v, and was raced in Italy - winning 20 of 25 races with zero (0.00) mechanical failures.

Hey, they made a new monster look great.

<ducks>

(http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/images/4/foto/18.jpg)

i like the other tail slightly better:

(http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/images/4/foto/01.jpg)

Yeah, not diggin' it so much with the tail section removed.  [Edit: As per Statler's post]

Those stubby, seat-only "tails" always look unfinished to my eyes.

*shrugs*

I like the one I posted quite a bit, change the blinkers and voila - a thing o' booty.

+1

I usually dig NCR stuff, but not this one.  :-\

i like the Millona a bit better - looks like a very well done "new" SS in "track/race form".

Exactly.  A very hot SS nuda on 'roids.

Hands down better for me. Millona =  [bow_down]

Then you are really looking at a tough call betwixt the NCR and the Pierobon:

(http://www.duccutters.com/pierobon-F042/Originals/pierobon%20F042.jpg)

vs.

(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/IMG_0846.jpg)

similar concepts, but the NCR weighs less, makes more power, and of course: costs more.

I find the Milona to be the better looker.

more of a CR or Kaemna "short-CR" fairing on it than just the 916-esque front fairing only on the Pierobon.



perhaps a better comparison would be the street version of the Pierobon F042 with the NCR M4 / M4 One Shot:

(http://www.f042.com/img/F042_3.jpg)

vs

(http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/images/4/foto/07.jpg)

but again - NCR has higher end brakes, suspension, "more motor", less overall weight, and .... is more costly.

If someone else is buying I want the NCR

If I'm buying I want the Pierobon  [laugh]

I'd love to have either  [thumbsup]

With what they can get out of a motor, I want an NCR Corse 1200 engine purty bad. I have contacted Mr. Ippoliti about pricing a "crate engine" (NCR built 1200cc 2V) for putting in my 2V SBK project.  I figure if I was going to build the motor out and was trying to budget and save for the 73mm stroke crank and 102mm cylinders/pistons (and having the cases machined) and obtaining everything else - it might not be much more to have it built to blueprint specs there and be able to bolt it up

Here's why I'm looking into it - a bit of perspective:

Ducati 996R (998cc Testastretta 4v race bike, limited production of 500): 
    100kw(135 hp),
    101Nm(10.3kgm),
    407 lbs
NCR M4 One Shot (1200cc NCR Corse 2v engine):
    98-103kw(132-138hp),
    140Nm(14.3kgm),
    278 lbs

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If you build something with the approach of "Who gives a good make the beast with two backs how much it costs?" then it's amazing the numbers and performance that can be achieved.

+11tb

i wish they would do that for one season of motogp.  no weight limits, engine size configs, or anything at all.  just the stipulation that it has a to be a motorcycle and away you go.

you mean AMA's old FUSA rules....

Then Honda wins by bankrupting competition as they seem to be trying to do now.

Or how about a race with only the top selling model regardless.

Honda would have to race a cruiser.

A 250 cruiser, no?

Or a portable generator... [laugh]

 [laugh]

I guess Yamaha would be racing an electronic piano then...

and Kawasaki would be racing a Mule....

I'd pay to see that.

Imagine running one of those things, flat out, with a sidecar monkey hanging off the back/sides?

Might not be competitive, but it'd be damned fun.

be the 1st time Kawasaki would beat Yamaha in a long time...LOL

I think Honda would have to race one of these:

Greatest Ever Motorcycles: # 1 - Honda Cub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLjnqkXNWJs#)


It could actually be hilarious to have a race series based on these -- mandatory flower basket on the front! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

dunno man... if yam gets that piano on a good incline... might give the mule a run for it's money... haha

Only if Super Sic is piloting and pulls a Senna going into turn one.

NCR M4 and NCR M4 ONE SHOT at Barber Motorsports Vintage Museum dinner party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZD7QHKsVio&feature=player_embedded#)

mmmmm... deethe breaply

How much are kidneys worth on the black market?

sadly enough, prob less than this bike.  haha