Title: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: zarn02 on October 31, 2011, 04:36:36 PM So I was watching Moto2 the other day and an idea. Surely not an original idea. I've no doubt it has been done before, but if it's being done at the moment I haven't seen it.
How's about a class (or classes) where there are no factory teams at all. Unlike Moto2, I don't want a control engine. I'm happy to let manufacturers build engines which teams can purchase, and probably have some sort of rules regarding the tuning of those motors beyond factory-fresh specs. And then whole other groups of people are tasked with producing chassis for these various motors. Who builds which chassis for which motor can be handled in a free-market manner: The best, and therefore (probably) most popular engine(s) attract the best frame makers. Bodywork can be made by whomever, I suppose. Suspension is a free-for-all as well. Undecided on how to handle electronics. Either the engine makers, or just purchase off-the-shelf components. Tires from whomever will make them. Or off-the-shelf race rubber. Whatever works best, and is fiscally possible for the team. Anybody want to add to my pipe dream? [laugh] Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: desmoquattro on October 31, 2011, 05:02:47 PM How about a claiming rule that allows you to buy another bike for the paltry sum of $1? That'd make it all about the riders :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: Drunken Monkey on November 02, 2011, 09:38:38 AM Sorry, but isn't this the whole point of the claiming rule teams in MotoGP next year?
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/168905/1/fim_explains_2012_motogp_claiming_rule.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/168905/1/fim_explains_2012_motogp_claiming_rule.html) Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: desmoquattro on November 02, 2011, 09:48:02 AM Sorry, but isn't this the whole point of the claiming rule teams in MotoGP next year? http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/168905/1/fim_explains_2012_motogp_claiming_rule.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/168905/1/fim_explains_2012_motogp_claiming_rule.html) This is a hypothetical racing league...and claiming rules certainly seem like a good idea. Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: Drunken Monkey on November 02, 2011, 10:37:36 AM This is a hypothetical racing league...and claiming rules certainly seem like a good idea. As long as it's hypothetical, and if close racing is the goal: Engine limits based on displacement Tires - Whatever Bodywork - Whatever Frames - Whatever Suspension - Whatever Gearbox - Whatever - I'd totally allow dual clutch systems. Minimum weigh limits based on bike + Rider weight. I'm tired of all these humorless midgets ;D And throw in a claiming rule on engines & gearboxes (Frames too?) to prevent overbuilding. Fuel supply should be limited but reasonably generous. Right now the limited fuel supply is a big driver of much of the crazy electronics packages. Add a claiming rule for software ;) Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: duccarlos on November 03, 2011, 07:05:05 AM Why not just expand the claiming rules to the factories? That would show them... the door.
Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: desmoquattro on November 03, 2011, 07:16:38 AM Hell...why not a spec series for Turbo 'Busas:
(http://tech.mikeshouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Suzuki-hayabusa-trike-544px.jpg) Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: MadDuck on November 03, 2011, 08:41:28 AM Hell...why not a spec series for Turbo 'Busas: (http://tech.mikeshouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Suzuki-hayabusa-trike-544px.jpg) I am shocked by that picture but, oddly, not surprised. :o Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: duccarlos on November 03, 2011, 08:50:52 AM Hell...why not a spec series for Turbo 'Busas: (http://tech.mikeshouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Suzuki-hayabusa-trike-544px.jpg) This is what happens when they let the Teutuls work on a Busa. Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: zooom on November 03, 2011, 08:53:51 AM This is what happens when they let the Tuttles work on a Busa. would this be their "Isle of Mann" influence tainted by a residual taste of what they think is italian from whence they had Ducati intepreted and executed through a Busa vessel? Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: desmoquattro on November 03, 2011, 09:03:37 AM This is what happens when they let the Teutuls work on Fixed... Title: Re: Thoughts on a hypothetical race class Post by: duccarlos on November 03, 2011, 10:01:08 AM would this be their "Isle of Mann" influence tainted by a residual taste of what they think is italian from whence they had Ducati intepreted and executed through a Busa vessel? Exactly. |