Ducati Monster Forum

hey everyone just wonted to find out some of your opinions on something thats been bugging me. I have a 93 m900 in very good condition, now i wont to really customize it to something of a show bike. My plans are, since i have done a bit of composite work in the past wrap the tank and front mudguard in carbon fiber, put a center strip and original ducati monster stickers on the side of the tank before clear coating, chrome the triple clamps and foot rest hangers, open clutch and so on .... Iv been advised my two ducati riders not to do this as its a original 93 monster and it will devalue it to much. what are your thoughts on this? and do you think it will devalue it or add value in years to come?

You mean wrap it in vinyl that "looks" like CF

Yes.


No.

Genuine carbon fiber parts won't lower the value, generally speaking. I can't see why you'd "wrap" the fender and such, as they do make carbon fenders. If your plan is stick on "cabon-look" vinyl, I think there's a very good chance that will lower the value.

An open clutch cover will have absolutely zero effect on resale.

As a rule of thumb, when it comes time to sell, well-done mods have nearly no effect on price, and poorly done mods reduce it. And you never make back the money you've sunk into the bike with aftermarket parts, unless you pull them off and sell them separately.

no i mean real carbon fiber wrapping / skimming. the reason i wont to go down the route of wrapping rather then just buying carbon parts is just a price thing. I already have carbon fabric and resin so it wont cost me anything. Im also thinking of a tail chop and a frame respray. I suppose what im really asking is, is there a collectors market for used 93 monsters?

sorry all, didn't realize i was posting in the wrong place.
 

is there a collectors market for 1993 corollas?

The monster isnt anything special. i hope you realize that.

Yeah, the value right now has got to be under 2k, does it really matter how much more you lower it?

If there is a universe with a special 93 Monster Collector Community they won't look kindly on slathering carbon fiber cloth and resin on an otherwise good fender (or even a p.o.c. fender for that matter).

I can't help but think that no matter how bad a part looks, it's gonna look worse when you get done doing that to it.

If you want carbon fiber, buy it.

If you can't buy it, then do without.

hey thnx for all your reply's. No i didn't realize that i was under the impression the early monsters made quite an impact on motorcycling by introducing the "naked sports bike" the the market. But im only going on what iv read and heard as i was 4 in 93
 

I'm an opinionated dick as much as anyone else is, but at the end of the day, If you recognize this Monster Modding as a hobby and you are doing it for you then FOOKall...its yours! Do what you like! If you are in it for profit.....THAT's another story....

It is possible there will be a future in which the '93 Monster, being the first year, will be somewhat more sought after than later vintages.

If this universe comes to pass, these collectors will probably prefer a nice, unadulterated example of the breed.

If future value is of prime consideration, conduct yourself accordingly. If not, do what you like.

said it before and ill say it again, doing CF wrap is like buying a toupee.

haha yer thats a good point  [laugh]

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=48398.15 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=48398.15)

A stock (ish) '93 M900 as a collector? Yeah, I can see it as I've been looking for one myself.

But, I'm a Monster nut-job so I'm already in the minority...

 

looks fantastic. thnx for the link

http://www.hairdirect.com/hair/systems/default.aspx (http://www.hairdirect.com/hair/systems/default.aspx)

 ;)
 [evil]

 ;D i think i might have a few more years left with my hair. saying that i might just go for the comb over, its cheaper

Doable and if you like the looks, go f it.
It`s your life-bike-money.
Wont add value to most people IMO.

I agree with everything people have said. It is your bike and you should do whatever you want with it. However, I think we would be doing you a disservice by not letting you know how tacky fake carbon fiber is.  I would put it in the same category as neon lights, extended swingarms, and chromed wheels.

sounds like a whole lot of people didnt get that memo!

I personally think that the purpose for laying carbon over a steel tank is pointless...the point of carbon to me is for to reduce weight while maintaining rigidity when using it to replace metal...in this case, that isn't what you are doing, and I just don't understand why really....if it is a look thing( especially since you are being cheap,ie:not buying a carbon tank), I just think you'll end up better off just wrapping the tank in carbon look vinyl...not to mention the potential in this project for make the beast with two backsing up a perfectly good tank if things don't work out well or the way you want....maybe the answer is this, if you intend to do this no matter what, maybe find a used/dented tank off Fleabay and do it to that while your perfectly good origional stock tank sits in a bag/box on a shelf...just my .02 FWIW

Are there even any sources for a real carbon fiber tank anymore for our older Monsters anymore?

You have received opinions but how about practical application?

Once you wet out carbon it will slide all around your tank so you will need to hold it in place or you will never get straight lines and the weave wil be wavey.
My solution to this is pre preg, but now you have to cook your tank, so make sure it can handle the temps.  

My thoughts are the outcome of this project may not be what you envision.

Now if you have composite experience, pull your tank, use it as a plug, make a 3 piece mold and do your complete tank out of carbon.  Now we are talking.

Case

Yep... actually i have a CF front fender from motowheels that I can't use since I swapped to SBK forks...

Sorry I meant to say "carbon fiber tank".

Yep, Ducati still has them. I've one on the 859.