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Title: 1199 Pricing
Post by: rideserotta on November 18, 2011, 06:33:45 AM
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Ducati 1199 Panigale ABS $26,990
Ducati 1199 Panigale S ABS $33,990
Ducati 1199 Panigale S Tricolore ABS $39,990

*Australian dollars


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Slide Panda on November 18, 2011, 06:37:17 AM
Just wait... if the Euro tanks prices will go down!

Ok they really won't, in any direct relation at present,  as the wholesale order have already been paid for by dealers... but one can dream it worked that way. But if the euro does tank against the green back future prices will reflect that shift. But that would take a while


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Novelo on November 18, 2011, 12:40:17 PM
Just wait... if the Euro tanks prices will go down!

Ok they really won't, in any direct relation at present,  as the wholesale order have already been paid for by dealers... but one can dream it worked that way. But if the euro does tank against the green back future prices will reflect that shift. But that would take a while


Guess that depends if they will sacrifice Greece to the gods lol


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: rideserotta on November 18, 2011, 01:02:17 PM
What happens to the pricing if Italy is booted out of the Euro and returns to the Lira? Not out of the realm of possibility.  ???


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Raux on November 18, 2011, 01:12:10 PM
This so makes room for a 2v Supersport with 1198 SBK frames


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: stopintime on November 18, 2011, 01:13:27 PM
US bikes are already priced much lower than in Europe and protected against international market leaks with the Conformity / Vin series manufacturer bullshit.

US bikes will probably not be sold cheaper just because the exchange rate changes - they will be priced according to what you guys are willing/able to pay. Sorry, not less $$$ - only more Ducati profit.

That being said - I'm impressed by the fact that Ducati seems to be pricing Panigale similar to the much less sophisticated 1198.


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Triple J on November 18, 2011, 01:47:32 PM
Are they actually priced lower, or do we just have fewer taxes (i.e. no VAT in US)?


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: ODrides on November 18, 2011, 02:08:56 PM
According to Ducatinewstoday.com, US pricing is:

$17,995 standard 1199
$22,995 S
$23,995 S with ABS
$27,995 S Tricolore

England (pricing excludes dealer and statutory charges):
£14,995 standard 1199
£15,750 ABS (note this model won’t be available in the USA)
£19,750 S with ABS
£23,495 S Tricolore

Either way you convert your currency, we in the US get a serious discount!


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: stopintime on November 18, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
Are they actually priced lower, or do we just have fewer taxes (i.e. no VAT in US)?

Norway is not the typical Euro country. We have spirit crushing taxes.

Standard Panigale is expected to retail at ~ $ 52,000.
Of that amount ~ $ 22,000 is luxury/green taxes.
Let's not forget the 25% VAT - calculated 'only' from the import price.

Or another way to illuminate the protectionist manufacturer policy:
If I imported a new US Panigale, it would cost me $ 44,000.
That's 8,000 cheaper than in Norwegian stores.

The choice manufacturers have is to NOT compete in the US market,
or
to protect their home market by sabotaging private import.

So, yes, you get substantially lower import prices [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Curmudgeon on November 18, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
Just wait... if the Euro tanks prices will go down!

Ok they really won't, in any direct relation at present,  as the wholesale order have already been paid for by dealers... but one can dream it worked that way. But if the euro does tank against the green back future prices will reflect that shift. But that would take a while

Typically manufacturers buy the money from banks for 6 months and/or a year out prior to announcing any MSRPs. This is safer and eliminates the possibility of loss but also of any exchange profits.


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: Raux on November 18, 2011, 03:57:48 PM
but what's the market share for the US vs other countries.
AND look what happened to Ducati with the higher priced 999

if Ducati tanked the US market because of higher prices, they could forget about the US market being as strong as it is.


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: muskrat on November 18, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
"Green" taxes.......I call BS.  The dam thing gets better gas mileage than half the cars.  What a crock. [thumbsdown]


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: stopintime on November 18, 2011, 05:34:39 PM
"Green" taxes.......I call BS.  The dam thing gets better gas mileage than half the cars.  What a crock. [thumbsdown]

If you bring weight into the equation, bikes are not doing well at all.
They could have, but are not designed to.

Our politicians offered to lower green taxes accordingly,
but no bike manufacturers will supply the data needed to prove anything.

If we go by consumption alone, it would make a liter bike about $ 10,000 cheaper here.
Not going to happen until we see EURO 4, 5 or 6 engines.

Modern cars with the latest technology put out cleaner air than they suck in - at least in big cities.
Bikes are primitive compared to that.
..................

Someone will post the Myth Busters segment where they document bikes to be quite bad.


Title: Re: 1199 Pricing
Post by: muskrat on November 18, 2011, 05:42:34 PM

Modern cars with the latest technology put out cleaner air than they suck in - at least in big cities.
Bikes are primitive compared to that.
..................

Someone will post the Myth Busters segment where they document bikes to be quite bad.

Not here they don't.  Of course this is Texas where we all drive trucks.   [thumbsup]


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