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Title: Trailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: ab on November 19, 2011, 03:11:25 PM
In light of a recent trailer accident that happen to my  :'( 620 monster http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53077.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53077.0) ,

I am now researching a solution pointed out by some DMF members.

I am trying to determine which one is a better product between the STStands and the pit bull version.

Do you guys/gals go as far as adding front wheel choke on top of this as an extra measure ?  If yes , which product do you recommend or use for front wheel choke.

http://www.ststands.com/main.cfm (http://www.ststands.com/main.cfm)

or

http://www.pit-bull.com/trailer-restraint.shtml (http://www.pit-bull.com/trailer-restraint.shtml)

or any other recommendations.

In addition, how exactly do you guarantee the bottom part that is attached to the trailer is secure enough?  


ststrapless
Motorcycle Strapless Stand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bB7LWzbJQM#)

pit bulls trailer restraint
Pit Bull Trailer Restraint 2009 video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwaEABfg2rA#)


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: stopintime on November 19, 2011, 05:07:25 PM
Interesting products  [thumbsup]

To me, it seems like the Pitbull will allow the bike to jump up and down while the ST holds it down...

Much less momentum on the ST mounting points, but the Pitbull seems to be easier to operate on your own.



Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: DarkMonster620 on November 19, 2011, 06:37:17 PM
But either way, I'd never go strapless ...

 I mean, never go without strapping the bike down ....


Title: ab
Post by: ab on November 19, 2011, 07:00:34 PM
Oh 100% strap her down on top of this strapless solution n even go as far as   choke the pregnant dog. lol


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: DarkMonster620 on November 19, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
Oh 100% strap her down on top of this strapless solution n even go as far as   choke the pregnant dog. lol


if the trailer is yours,  for either base you chose, either bolt it down or permannetly weld it to the trailer .. I'll do that ... also, a front chock would also help ...

example: http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=60 (http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=60)


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: derby on November 19, 2011, 07:21:26 PM
But either way, I'd never go strapless ...

 I mean, never go without strapping the bike down ....

plenty of racers using the strapless and pitbull stands w/o a front chock or straps.

the pitbull is a "nicer" solution, but the strapless stands are cheaper.


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: DarkMonster620 on November 19, 2011, 07:23:23 PM
plenty of racers using the strapless and pitbull stands w/o a front chock or straps.

the pitbull is a "nicer" solution, but the strapless stands are cheaper.

if you came down here, you'll use a chock a rear stand and straps ... 4 on front and 4 on rear ... our streets are very bumpy ...


Plus, I was only saying as added security ,...


Title: ab
Post by: ab on November 19, 2011, 07:35:49 PM
Price comparison

STStand ~ $249

Pitbull restraint  ~ $279

They are not cheap unfortunately.


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: red baron on November 19, 2011, 10:17:32 PM
Looking at the two (and already an owner and knowing how overbuilt the pit bull products are) I'd go pit bull.



Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: zooom on November 20, 2011, 04:01:42 AM
I can personally say (wsh I still had the picture) that the Pitbull works exceedingly well...on my way to the 1st Indy GP my friend Henry has his bikes in his enclosed trailer following us as a chase vehicle of sorts...he had a stabilizer on the trailer that failed and the waggle of the trailer coming down an 8% grade forced his truckonto the side of the road when the trailer finally turned onto its side and did all kinds of damage and wreaked some havoc...meanwhile, the bikes were on Baxley sport chocks on the front and the front end was strapped into the D-Rings while the back was in the pitbull strapless rear restraints....when they opened the trailer door ( more it was pulled the hinga off and let the door fall) the bikes were still suspended hanging sideways on the floor that was now positioned as a wall of this trailer laying on its side and were for the most part perfectly fine....they cut the trailer off the hitch and righted it up and pulled the bikes out and the damage to them was very minimal...so my vote, knowing the violence they experienced would be for the Pitbull...


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: fastwin on November 20, 2011, 10:05:16 AM
Wow, crazy story but very impressive. Should had sent pics to Baxley and Pitbull for future ads! [thumbsup] I have a Baxley sport chock that I have meant to attach to my 6x10 utility trailer for a couple of years. Just haven't gotten around to it. Not even sure where the floor mount kit is. [bang] I have a standard front wheel chock mounted on the trailer floor and I always use four Ancra straps. Two front, two on the back. I too think I could flip my trailer and the bike would still be there. Anchored pretty well with the 4 straps. Guess that's why I have never gotten around to mounting the Baxley.


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on November 20, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
sportchock+straps+canyon dancer. never had a problem (and during the winter ill do~ 4-8 pick ups and drop offs a day).


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: avizpls on November 20, 2011, 03:51:29 PM
I use pit bulls and transport a number of different bikes very frequently.

The pit bull is superior because it allows the bike to float on it's own suspension. Rather than try and control all of that force on a bumpy road, it let's the bike do it's thing and the restraint pivots at the bike and the floor. I

It's simply a fantastic system, I wouldn't go with anything else!!

I figure I've got something like 5000 miles on the pit bulls (2) with zero issue


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: Triple J on November 20, 2011, 07:21:09 PM
I use the pit bull stand without a chock or straps, and Seattle roads are crap.  I also know several others who use it without straps. It is fantastic, and far superior to any strap system IMO.


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: Slide Panda on November 21, 2011, 05:59:53 AM
If Zooom hadn't beat me to it, I was going to relate the same tale. I also know the fellow who's trailer turned over and the Pit-Bulls+ kept the bikes secured even in that catastrophic event.

The photo might still be out there some place, it's worth finding if possible - Henry should have sent to to pit-bull to use in an advert.


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: derby on November 21, 2011, 09:00:14 AM

The photo might still be out there some place, it's worth finding if possible - Henry should have sent to to pit-bull to use in an advert.

he stil should. i'm sure charlie would appreciate it.


Title: ab
Post by: ab on November 21, 2011, 07:58:31 PM
Wow - hydraulic trailer - if only I had F U money
TRP Corp Hydraulic Motorcycle Trailers.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ElfmOZSIP4#)


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: Chucko9-696 on November 22, 2011, 06:55:50 AM
I travel allot for work and have been thinking about getting a trailer myself and found this option www.kyaracing.com (http://)  [drink]


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: zooom on November 22, 2011, 06:58:37 AM
I travel allot for work and have been thinking about getting a trailer myself and found this option www.kyaracing.com (http://) (http://) (http://)  [drink]

uhhh...you linky no worky for me....


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: Chucko9-696 on November 22, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
uhhh...you linky no worky for me....
I didnt link it im not that computer savvy


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: Chucko9-696 on November 22, 2011, 07:06:43 AM
http://www.kyaracing.com.au/index.htm (http://www.kyaracing.com.au/index.htm)  try this


Title: Re: Tailer bike - strapless stand vs pit bull's trailer restraint
Post by: zooom on November 22, 2011, 07:24:21 AM
http://www.kyaracing.com.au/index.htm (http://www.kyaracing.com.au/index.htm)  try this

AHHH...I remember those from when they were reviewed here -> http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-trailer/motorcycle-trailer-tie-down.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-trailer/motorcycle-trailer-tie-down.htm)


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