Title: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on November 21, 2011, 08:34:53 AM Can someone please direct me as to which wires get connected to bypass the kickstand switch? I can't seem to locate it in my manual. I'd really appreciate any help with this -- I'm tired of sitting on my bike while it warms up...
Thanks Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Chris,desmoworld on November 21, 2011, 08:52:56 AM what bike/year you have?
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on November 21, 2011, 02:51:56 PM Oh, right, of course...
2002 900s. Thank you. Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Chris,desmoworld on November 21, 2011, 03:39:24 PM you can connect pin 2+3 but its absolut not recommended !!!
if you forget the kickstand is out you get in trouble in the next corner ! :P better use a conversion kit ,for example our (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/900x675/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/s/u/su.00.00001.jpg) http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/desmoworld-seitenstander-umbau.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/desmoworld-seitenstander-umbau.html) you can rund the engine while kickstand is out and neutral gear is in, if you switch to another than neutral while kickstand is out the engine stop! this can safe a lot of money later ;D so be sure your modification stop the engine in case you will drive with kickstand out chris Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on November 23, 2011, 04:57:18 PM Pin 2+3 it is. Thank you.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Novelo on November 23, 2011, 07:53:02 PM I went with the El Cheapo way had it for three years no problems but don't screw up by leaving it out.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on November 25, 2011, 03:18:51 PM Not sure when Men lost the ability to put their kickstands up...
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Howley on November 25, 2011, 11:15:44 PM Probably around the same time they started getting manicures.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Curmudgeon on November 26, 2011, 06:37:16 PM Not sure when Men lost the ability to put their kickstands up... Probably around the same time they started getting manicures. And just wait until both of you develop Halfsheimers..., then all will be clear! ;) Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Bill in OKC on November 26, 2011, 07:54:54 PM I forgot to put my kickstand up in 1978. I've seen others do it and the kickstand retracts as soon as it touches the pavement. I wasn't so lucky.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on November 28, 2011, 12:46:47 PM I ended up taking a piece of copper wire and jumping the wires at the connector (about 12" up the frame from the kickstand). Works like a charm and I didn't have to cut and splice any wires, which means I can simply take the jumper out and return to stock.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: duc996 on December 03, 2011, 07:57:11 PM Got rid of my kickstand switch a long time ago, i made it a habit that the first thing i do when i get on the bike is to flip the stand up.Scary thought riding around with that kickstand still down.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: memetic on December 07, 2011, 10:03:20 AM Got rid of my kickstand switch a long time ago, i made it a habit that the first thing i do when i get on the bike is to flip the stand up.Scary thought riding around with that kickstand still down. I simply don't get it.... Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 11:40:32 AM Thing is.. you all are complaining... but...
the suicide stand was a worst experience and the first time my '99 was ever dropped. damn thing had a false neutral on startup. i was standing on the right side of the bike and it jumped and the kickstand flipped up. after i got rid of the suicide with conversion bolt i forgot it one time. scared the hell out of me. i lucked out, it didn't fold but didn't crack the case or dump me. having a safety switch to remind me... i'm not a complainer. it's easy to get distracted just once. Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Curmudgeon on December 07, 2011, 12:29:23 PM having a safety switch to remind me... i'm not a complainer. it's easy to get distracted just once. [thumbsup] And just wait until you get a bit older!!! Done this more than once in the last three years... Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: metroplex on December 27, 2011, 07:44:15 PM Hmmm, my 696 stays running in Neutral with the kickstand extended. It shuts down the engine when I shift into gear. I thought this is how all motorcycles were designed (stays running in neutral regardless of the kickstand position)? I start them like I start manual cars, I keep the clutch fully depressed.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Howie on December 27, 2011, 11:16:08 PM Nope. All motorcycles in the US since 19?? had to have be equipped so you can not ride away with the sidestand down. Early Monsters came equipped with a sidestand that retracted when you took the weight off the sidestand, quickly nicknamed the Suicide Sidestand. That was replaced with the safety sidestand switch, which prevented the bike from starting or running unless the sidestand was up regardless of gear. In 2002, maybe '01 for the S4, not sure, a change was made that allowes the bike to run with the bike on the sidetand as long as the bike is neutral or the clutch is disengaged.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: ducatiz on December 28, 2011, 08:38:40 AM Nope. All motorcycles in the US since 19?? had to have be equipped so you can not ride away with the sidestand down. Early Monsters came equipped with a sidestand that retracted when you took the weight off the sidestand, quickly nicknamed the Suicide Sidestand. That was replaced with the safety sidestand switch, which prevented the bike from starting or running unless the sidestand was up regardless of gear. In 2002, maybe '01 for the S4, not sure, a change was made that allowes the bike to run with the bike on the sidetand as long as the bike is neutral or the clutch is disengaged. This is how my 1985 Cagiva runs. Kicker down, clutch engaged in neutral. Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: yamifixer on December 28, 2011, 09:04:56 AM I bought a harness off of ebay that plugs right in and alows for it to start on stand but dies the second you put it in gear with stand still down. I kind of like it.
Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Curmudgeon on December 28, 2011, 09:18:34 AM I bought a harness off of ebay that plugs right in and alows for it to start on stand but dies the second you put it in gear with stand still down. I kind of like it. That's the way the new Monsters work. Same on my '09 Bonneville too except that you have to pull in the clutch to engage the starter. Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: seanster on February 27, 2012, 08:54:44 PM Friends,
I have a question...I have always been able to start my bike with the kick stand down...does that mean I can remove the wire/plug leading to the kick stand? Bike is 2000 M750 Thanks Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: Monsterlover on February 27, 2012, 11:07:13 PM $1.49 solution from radio shack I did on my 2000 M900ie
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=280.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=280.0) Title: Re: Kickstand Switch Post by: seanster on February 27, 2012, 11:19:03 PM $1.49 solution from radio shack I did on my 2000 M900ie http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=280.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=280.0) Well i asked because....the problem is that i took off the switch from the stand...traced it to the plug....and from the plug i traced the wires to the main harness...i then cut the wires close to the harness... I am now wondering if my bike will run....it started in neutral when the kickstand down...before i cut the wire...i think one time i accidentally had it in gear and then started the bike with kickstand down...the engine shutted off right the way. |