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Title: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Travman on December 05, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Don't know who they belong to.  Thought I'd share.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0n0T5eK6d_M/TtyGzoQ-qDI/AAAAAAAAWqA/wt8yVs6I_NE/s640/cafe-110.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wmm_kETUZbI/TtyG1cdK23I/AAAAAAAAWqI/FS9VeHnhdyk/s640/novece10.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4cADmB_h9eo/TtyG2e01dGI/AAAAAAAAWqQ/7juAdRCG-ow/s640/quadri10.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eFeIVf3QunM/TtyG35lBZfI/AAAAAAAAWqY/luVFrZQhXSg/s640/quadri11.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r_vNJGGfMuM/TtyG4w6c7DI/AAAAAAAAWqg/tKuG58Apvsg/s640/ss-qua10.jpg)


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: $Lindz$ on December 05, 2011, 07:29:52 PM
I've seen these somewhere...

Awesome. Did you build these models? If so, what program did you use? (I want to do something similar for my friend's 1098-into-Sport1000 project he's thinking about).


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: DRKWNG on December 06, 2011, 04:53:01 PM
A 1098 motor in an SC chassis would be unfuggin' believable!!  Sign me up!!


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: $Lindz$ on December 06, 2011, 06:51:19 PM
Haha, yeah we'll see how it goes. That chassis is so old hat. I told him I think riding it would be like trying to f*ck a snake in a bowl of jello. But yeah it would be a real looker at least. Hahaha.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: DRKWNG on December 06, 2011, 07:23:35 PM
You haven't spent much time on these bikes have you?  I've been on several roads around here where I easily pulled away from a guy on a CBR1000.  They handle pretty damned well once set up.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: $Lindz$ on December 06, 2011, 11:27:23 PM
I don't own a Sport Classic but I've ridden his a bunch. 999 wheels, 848 front end, Zard spaghetti exhaust, lightened flywheel, etc... It definitely feels real nice, (like an aggressive S2R1k) and I don't doubt that you can pull away from litrebikes in the twisties. BUT, I'd also put a lot of that down to rider (and a nice little dose of DS1000 low-end torque).

Anyways we're always going back and forth between a nice naked 1098 (better frame and suspension) and a 1098'd SC (more unique and, well, pretty).


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 12:15:36 AM
The only SC that would look good as a watercooled 4v is the Paul Smart with the larger fairing.
The 1098 motor is just too much plumbing/radiator/oil cooler/ etc etc to be out in the open IMO


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: $Lindz$ on December 07, 2011, 12:27:16 AM
The only SC that would look good as a watercooled 4v is the Paul Smart with the larger fairing.
The 1098 motor is just too much plumbing/radiator/oil cooler/ etc etc to be out in the open IMO

Completely agree with you on this. We're talking about doing that or possibly messing around with an under-tail radiator. Either way, it would have to be fully custom radiator because a stock 1098 would still be way too wide for a PS fairing.

So, any info on this digital model?


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: zooom on December 07, 2011, 04:04:34 AM
  We're talking about doing that or possibly messing around with an under-tail radiator. 

something undertail ala Benelli Tornado Tre?

(http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Tornado_Tre_6-600x450.jpg)


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 04:17:58 AM
I would use a tall narrow radiator and mount the oil cooler in the nose


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Duck-Stew on December 07, 2011, 07:32:07 AM
4V vertical head won't fit in an SC chassis, but nice modelling...


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: mitt on December 07, 2011, 07:37:20 AM
The modeling would be better if they were not hovering over the floor - makes it look like a cartoon.  If the cad monkey went to this much trouble, he should have rendered them sitting on a garage floor.

mitt


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 08:02:13 AM
4V vertical head won't fit in an SC chassis, but nice modelling...

tsk tsk... no imagination

(http://www.js-racing.nl/images/fotoalbum/05-12-2010-opbouw-supermono/view/DSC00855.jpg)

JS Racing Ducati Supermono 598 JSR11 Dyno Run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9wrYfa4lnE#)


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Duck-Stew on December 07, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
That's a 1098/848/1198 chassis.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Moto Motivo on December 07, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
That's a 1098/848/1198 chassis.

Also no vertical cylinder.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 10:19:32 AM
Also no vertical cylinder.
[beer]


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Duck-Stew on December 07, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Yeah, but as it was modelled...  It was a V-twin.

Wonder if we could use a DS vertical cylinder barrel and a set of reed valves so that it compressed air every cycle and then feed the 4V horizontal cylinder w/the 'blower' cylinder...

All in an SC chassis.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 07, 2011, 11:25:59 AM
Yeah, but as it was modelled...  It was a V-twin.

Wonder if we could use a DS vertical cylinder barrel and a set of reed valves so that it compressed air every cycle and then feed the 4V horizontal cylinder w/the 'blower' cylinder...

All in an SC chassis.

now you're brain juices are flowing  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: zooom on December 07, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
Yeah, but as it was modelled...  It was a V-twin.

Wonder if we could use a DS vertical cylinder barrel and a set of reed valves so that it compressed air every cycle and then feed the 4V horizontal cylinder w/the 'blower' cylinder...

All in an SC chassis.

YOU MEAN LIKE THIS -> http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/01/12/ducati-v-one-twin-to-supercharged-single-conversion/ (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/01/12/ducati-v-one-twin-to-supercharged-single-conversion/)  ?!?!?!?!?!


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Duck-Stew on December 07, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Yes, but he's got a 2V blower feeding a 2V head.

I"m talking a 2V blower feeding a 4V head.  So long as the reciprocating assembly is balanced, it'd be a 10K rpm balanced, blown single...

If he's getting a claimed 100hp out of a 2V head....   [evil]


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Monsterlover on December 18, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
This thread is heading in the right direction

:D


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: pennyrobber on December 18, 2011, 10:48:36 AM
Hate to be a troll but, if you are going to make this thing a single and not be grossly underpowered, you'll need to bump the displacement up. I would say minimum 620cc, that is, if you want to be able to do 140mph.


Title: Re: Project SC - CAD Concepts
Post by: Raux on December 18, 2011, 10:51:14 AM
Hate to be a troll but, if you are going to make this thing a single and not be grossly underpowered, you'll need to bump the displacement up. I would say minimum 620cc, that is, if you want to be able to do 140mph.
that is sooooo frickin funny


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