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Febreeze and Clorox are making a friggin' killing off me!  I scold them and bring them to the poo and put them in there kenel for an hour or so.  Any suggestions?  I'm about to lynch them.

Watch their behavior.  When you see them start to circle an area looking, Make a routine of something like a phrase "Go Outside" "Chore Time" "Go Potty" etc. then leading them to the door and putting them outside.  Watch until they go, and don't let them in until they do.  Use it EVERY TIME and they'll be good to go in a very short amount of time. 

JM

Puppies?

Yeah I did that when we potty trained them.  Now they want to relapse for some reason, it's strange.  I am just trying to stay consistent with them.  I know when they start doing that again it takes a couple of weeks to get out of it again, worst case. 

Oh btw, they are 1 and 2 1/2 years old.   

Keep them in crates.

Use Nature's Miracle.

Are they stressed?


Have you moved?

Nature's Miracle rocks! I get it at PetSmart. Enzyme based odor remover, much better than Febreeze. We don't have dog mess/odor problems but I have used it for other reasons.

Not to rub it in (no pun intended) but thankfully our mature dog we adopted from a rescue group was already trained to ring a bell on the back door when she needed/wanted out. I have the bells hanging on a long piece of ribbon from the back door handle. When we first brought her home I showed her the bells, rattled them and 2-3 hours later she was nudging them with her snout to be let out. She's smater than I am! [laugh]

Good luck with the pup problem. I agree... have they been stressed? Like a move, etc.?

I don't think they're stressed.  They might be, subconsciously.  I just came back from Afghan, so they might be just getting used to papa being home laying down the law.

Wow, I'm doing that bell thing bro!!  I like it!

Not trying to be anything but helpful...

I have a close friend that went to Iraq.

He came back a different man.

Is it possible your experiences in war are freaking your dogs out because of the effects on you?

dp's probably right, the smells will be different and a "new leader" could easily cause it.

Give them time, and plenty of chances to "go" outside.

With all due respect:  The above can certainly add to their stress.  Kennels, like dens, are a canine's safe haven.  Not so much if they're tossed in there under stressful conditions

<edit>:   Re the above statement:  And then you put them in the crate when you're away (?) - which causes more confusion and stress because they think that's punishment when in fact it's their "home" while you're out (in  your mind).  Does that confusion they may have make sense?


What's worked for past and current pups and fosters, is praise, praise, praise and letting them outside to do their business - a lot (followed by the praise).  We use the word "hurry up" so they eventually learn that's the job they're supposed to do (not that it always works).

Consistent feeding times, no people food ever, and control of treats will be a big help so you shouldn't ever have to invest in Nature's Miracle, FeBreeze or any other cleaners.

Rubbing the noses in the poo has not been a proven training/correction method.  

They might also benefit from a refresher training course (at home or at a pet store or w/a trainer) - helps with the mental exercise dogs need.   We really enjoyed clicker training!

Remember, losing your cool w/them isn't going to help and it may take some time for them to finally figure it out, again.

Good luck and keep us posted!!!    [thumbsup]


The jingle bells sound cool!  Haven't personally seen a dog use them but have also heard they are easy for them to figure out.  

Yeah, try it. She took right to it in a brand new strange house filled with unknown people. It's like when I taught my old dogs years ago to use the dog door flap. It was a Godsend! This time I think our current dog trained us to react to the bells! [laugh] I think she rings it for fun sometimes just to rattle our cage and make sure we are still trained up. ;)

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Why don't I send you my dog.  He loves poop!  Your dogs poop and he disposes it.



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Poop (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32381491@N07/4542632815/#) by anzalone22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/32381491@N07/), on Flickr

Wow  [clap]

A self poop-scoopin' dog that never needs feeding  [thumbsup]   Clean and cheap to own  [thumbsup].

A K9 centipede.......ew.

I had a Jack Russell that, we suspect, spent his younger days in a puppy mill.  He was most happy while surrounded by his own poo.

One of our dogs had to be "retrained" when we moved last time...guess he didn't realize the new house was the same rules as the old house.


Anyways...we'd take him outside and let him play, and when he came inside...he went in his crate. Leave him there for a couple hours, take him outside and he'd go to the bathroom. We'd bring him in to play for a while (supervised), the back in the crate while we were doing other stuff and he wasn't supervised. Then outside to bathroom and play, then inside supervised, then crate when unsupervised...etc etc etc...

Took about a weekend, and he was back on the plan. No issues since then. He just had to relearn what home was. Other dog had no issues.

The most important part of the crate is that they don't think it's punishment. Our dogs sleep in theirs at night, so it's a "safe place"

This approach seems to work for us. I think you comming home is probably a big part of the change, but I'm sure they'll adjust fine.

Good luck!

I bought a one year old dog that had lived in a kennel and didn't understand the whole house training thing. I train compete my dogs in sport.

With the older dog if he had an accident I would intervene and take him directly outside to his 'area' by the collar. Not violenty but calmly and instruct him to do his business. When he would do it outside there was praise and tug.

If your problem is systemic I would start restricting their access in the house to only the areas you are in. This makes catching them in the act a lot easier. If you miss it there really is no point bringing them back to the scene of the crime and punishing them though you may really want to. I am a firm believer that there is a place for compulsion in dog training but this is not one of those places.

As others have said don't let them free feed and get them on a routine!

All these are good points and are much appreciated.  I think we are making progress as of the birth of this thread.  I did forget a thing or two while I was over there.  Thanks guys!

You know, its funny you had this...actually, really funny. I have a black lab as well and for some reason, he just loves to lick my doberman's crack!  Its the strangest!