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I just arrived home from a deployment, and sitting in the garage was a 1985 Moto Guzzi V65TT. My wife had worked her butt off the whole time i was gone and picked it up for my birthday/christmas gift! I was SO stoked! I had been eyeballing it before i left, but really didnt think i would come close to getting it. I know its not the cleanest looking rig, but its rare in the states, and thats where it will reside in a few years. Plus, my first bike was a KTM, and offroading is one of my most enjoyed styles. Apart from Michaela...(my duc.) Anyhow, i figured i would post a few pics and share! I plan on returning the paint back to stock. The green is Definately not original. Also, i will probably add a few new toys such as a bigger better light, and trail tech guages; but i will be holding to all the original equipment. SO without further adieu.... The Guzzi!
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You are a lucky man Anchorism, that bike looks like it will be a lot of fun to ride. Cant wait to see the upgrades when your done  [thumbsup]  [popcorn]






                                       Mmick

Love it (apart from the green  ;))  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Wow! That bike will be more than "rare" in the States-- it'll be one of a kind!  [thumbsup]

Post the mods  [popcorn]

a nice lil blurb about your new bike....

I confess that when the new Guzzi importer, Keith Davies of Three Cross Motorcycles suggested the Italian state corporation might be buildinig a Spada powered trail bike.  I could think only of jaundice coloured dwarfs in black button tips peddling backwards for all they were worth on BSA B39 look a likes.  Happily, the reality of the TT650 is as far removed from that as Alfa bodywork is from new metal and, rather ironically, the outstanding impression of Guzzi's first venture into the dual purpose market is one of comparative modernity.

Still it takes a brave man to import such exotica and as Keith Davies was still equivocating. South London maverick Vincent Marcello of Motomecca got in the old Datsun pick-up and headed off for Sicily in search of new specimens. That's the reason the bike is not cheap (£2800) as Vince has to fork out import duties and car tax at Dover - but it's still cheaper than BM's R80 and frankly every bit as competent.
The bike I rode was one Vince picked up only days before and, with the PDI still to be executed, my test ride was limited to a morning's excursion. Having little more trail knowledge than that tyres with knobbles on them are called knobblies did not, however, prevent me from establishing that the bike handled light and steered very quickly for a comparatively long wheelbase confection. There is an overriding impression of leanness and compactness about the plot that makes BMW's 80G/S feel unwieldy by comparison and, with dead neutral steering and estimably grippy Pirelli trail tyres, it'd take an absolute moron to fall off of this one.

Basic constituents of such a surprising delicacy are a traditional double cradle frame (splitting a la Le Mans to allow engine removal) with alloy swingarm extending straight from the end of the gearbox. This in turn is joined to the top part of the frame by conventional Marzocchi remote shockers (adjustable for preload) which are matched at the sharp end by the same manufacturer's enduro forks. Yes, the ride is hard, but never rough. I preferred it 100 per cent to the over-generous compliance of the BOG/S's suspension

The brakes, which are of course Brembo calipers and discs both fore and aft, had something of a shock in store for me. Lunging for the front disc was rewarded by trapped fingers and zero effect. Mecca hadn't set the thing up yet. But I naturally assumed it was the negligible output of a single Guzzi disc and tut-tutted myself for forgetting the foot-operated linked braking system. I spent the rest of the morning in London traffic placing only with the fantastically sensitive rear unit only to find that when I returned to Mecca to extoll it, the brakes were in fact not joined at all. This means the TT is equipped with the best rear brake I have ever used or my sense of adventure on trail bikes has degenerated from cautious to cowardly.



Perhaps the finest revelation, however, is the motor. A direct, untampered liberation from the 650 Spadette in whose clothes it feels positively agricultural, yet which in the new structure and augmented by its two-into-one pipe feels so crisp, free and responsive you'd think it'd collected at least another four valves. Not so; this is the basic 48bhp two valves per cylinder unit with only the aforementioned exhaust pipe to distinguish it from its predecessors: same 80X64mm basic architecture, same 10:1 size bang, same tiresome old contact breaker sparklers and 30mm Dellorto carbs.  Even overall gearing remains unaltered from the tourer though the handbook's quote of 48bhp at 7400 for the TT seems to make no significant difference over ex-importers Coburn & Hughes' more optimistic claims of 52 horses at seven thou for the road bike. So why does it feel like the standard flywheel's been replaced by a Fizzle's? Largely because of the shrunken all up weight and the improved torque characteristics of the exhaust which have bequeathed the TT an urge which feels almost Oriental. It's the best of both worlds - short, laconic, exhaust note and good response yet that same old loping relaxedness which has made Moto-Guzzis and BMW's the sanctuary of natural earth bikers for decades. Fact is the factory's claim of a 106mph top speed seems uncharacteristically frank even a little cautious.  And when was the last time you saw a 650 Spada being wheeled?

The clutch, however, gives you little more help in this respect.  It's the same single dry plate arrangement that'd feel more at home on a circus big dipper. Not in the Jota league or barbarism you understand, or anything like it.  But not for those who find the VF400F's clutch demanding.  Ditto the box, though there is nothing like the kickback associated with the premature down-change  on a big Beemer nor even the general heavy metal sensation of the standard 650SP.  And though metal (or its heaviness and thickness) is not something the Eyeties are famous for, the finish on the 650TT is almost good. Switchgear. once again, degenerates into tootie-frootieness, and nothing on the dashboard is exactly to be commended.

The thing that's holding Keith Davies back as a big time importer is his perception of the market, and in that sense the TT will always be idiosyncratic. Not even the Ténéré could claim a large following, even with all the hype and marketing associated with competing in the Paris Dakar.  But if riding across Africa or wheeling into the city every day are what you're into and, like me, you're neither an afficionado or single cylinder trail bikes nor a devotee of the flat-twin, the Guzzi honestly could be the answer.  Necessity really is the mother all right......

Source Which Bike 1985

WOW!  Didn't know that model Guzzi existed.

that's pretty amazing!  plenty of torque in tha small case.  can't say i love the confused holiday paintjob, but very slick

yet another Kamel/Elefant copy!

Cool, I like it  [thumbsup]

Wonder if they make some crash bars to project the engine?
If not, it would be an easy enough thing to make.

I've nevery seen a Guzzi like that and the paint job actually does much to draw attention to what appears to be a rare model.  You wife loves you, can you have her give mine a call???

Thanks for posting that info zooom! At first I thought it was the same that motorcyclespecs.ca said but much more in depth. I was kicking the idea around to get a second set of rims for it with streets just for s and g's. My friend/mechanic and I were talking about putting a bolt on crash bar with a skid plate on the underside. I want to do what I can to protect the oilsump as well as the heads. And elgallo... Don't you wish it were that easy?? Lol

take a look at Hepco and Becker...they have a lot of arcane bike bike accessories for rare models...like my not as rare as this but still not common Cagiva Gran Canyon....

shoot, we need to hang out with the girls so they can chat. maybe i'll get that tourer I've been wanting.

edit: GOT IT!!!

Soon to come!! Updated photos of the guzzi.... Wik pictures of the cans from Raux, wik exhaust wrapped, also wik the beginning of the new paint scheme.  Also also wik the new intake and tail chop!! Ps. anyone get the pun in the reply?? lol I know its nerdy but i couldnt help it ha!

So here are the updates...
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Made a quick attach low light condition lense just for fun.... two screws and its back to normal!
The low mounted setup should allow my ammo can saddlebag setup no problem.  If i should decide to change it later it will be up high.

Ok, after the last few days of tinkering with the Guzzi i decided im going to end up rebuilding her nearly from the ground up.  The wiring harness on it is pretty well shot.  The fuse block is rediculous.  And everything is slowly becomming faulty.  I also need to upgrade the brakes on it a bit.  SO that being said i am asking for some suggestions.... This is what i have got planned so far. 
1. Trail tech Vapor Guage (getting rid of the crazy clutter behind the headlight.)
(http://www.trailtech.net/media/computers/vapor/vapor-standard-stealth.jpg)
2. Either a Trail Tech X2 headlight or Can style light from a Ducati.
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3. Baja Design LED tail light
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4. Second set of tires/wheels for street use from a V65 Lario or SP
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5. Paint scheme will be OD green body panels with black frame and either black wheels or OD wheels.
6. Ive got mufflers for it at the moment.  Low mount but with a different header than the pic of it before. 

Trying to decide what else i should do.  I know this much will take me quite a while but thats the way builds are.

This is a LeMans but I would give my eye teeth for it..

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Well I didn't realize my old photos aren't working anymore... I'll try and fix them tomorrow.

There i reloaded some photos of her.

Here is an update on the progess.  I know its rather slow but the budget isnt huge.  I did get the new guage and handlebar setup.  Still awaiting on the new left controls to come in the mail.  Any suggestions for the headlight?? Im still debating whether or not to use the trail tech or a can light.  
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Very nice! I've been looking at the Vapor Tech speedo units for an XS650 project that's not included in their kit listing; how did you figure out which one to order for this bike?

I just ordered the vapor 75-700 universal upright fork setup.  Only flaw with my setup is the temp adapter is an inline radiator hose one.  But I'm not worried about a full temp gauge as it didn't originally have one.  Without the adapter hooked up it will just show ambient air temps which is fine.  A lot of the trail tech stuff is pretty much universal anyhow.  I just mounted a headlight tonight and will post pics tomorrow so stand by lol.

Well i decided to post them up now as i would probably be busy tomorrow so here it is.  The new headlight from a V1000g5 from the same year.
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I need to pull it out of the garage one of these days and get some better photos.  Pretty sure my phone makes the light look rather goofy.

 I like that light a lot!

Thanks!  I was thinking i might make a protective cover for it but maybe not...

That Guzzi is growing on me....   I'm flat out diggin' it now!  [Dolph]

Well you know you will get to see it once I'm back in good ol abq.  Shouldn't be but another year or so!

 [evil]

So i was in the garage from 2pm till 930pm tonight working on the ol' girl.  Heres a list of what i did today. Pics will come later this week.
1. Removed excess tabs from the frame in the battery area
2. Welded a tab for the front brake pressure switch (hidden under the tank  [thumbsup])
3. Completed the Trail Tech gauge install (speedo sensor)
4. Completed an awesome wiring harness for the headlight
5. Put the stock muffler back under it because the headers i got were putting strain on the heads (plus the exhaust just didnt look right as i had it before)
6. Started contemplating using a small ammo can for the battery box
7. Started doing a little crappy paint removal cause the green and red is making me want to PUKE!
8. Started trimming the seat down and this is where im stuck.  

For the rear end im starting to lean towards the bike Pedro-Bot posted.  I really like the idea of getting rid of the tail end crap and having a sort of Handle back there.  Seeing as how im always using the rear frame to man-handle it around anyways.

 You could do worse on the rear, butt it kinda calls out for a milk crate back there!

Heres the update.... Got the seat near finished.  The shape is done now it just needs the upholstry sewn.  Ive got a couple of small brackets to weld on the frame for my ammo can/radio setup as well as grind some of the old brackets off.  I might do a little bit of frame support just to be safe.  Today i stripped her down completely and to my suprise it only took about 20 minutes to have it to the point in these photos.  Also i will be buying some paint to at least get the ugliness taken care of.  Ill probably wait till next year to get it powdercoated like it needs to be.  I ran across a photo on the web for a cargo rack that i will be attempting instead of buying (220 euro.)  Oh and before i forget, i got the new taillight in as well i just need to get the mount made for it.  
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Next update!  Started priming and painting.  Got the tail end mocked up with a new undertail fender made from sheet aluminum.  All thats left now is make the bracket to hold the ammo can, grind a little on the frame, prime and paint the frame, swingarm, shocks, and rear brake caliper bracket.  Then it needs the seat to be covered and she will be put back together!  Once im back in the states ill probably break down and have it powdercoated in the next year or two.  But for now this is where she sits!

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Nice!!

Getting close to finished.  Time to start running the wiring and find some new relays for it.  Oh and drop off the seat to be upholstered.  Here are the pics from todays work.  
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Heres a before and after my wife made.
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At least shes back on two wheels.  The final PITA part will be the wiring and bleeding these old ass brakes.  

Yup.... digging another one out of the grave.  Got the ducati headlight mounted on this other italian brute! 
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It is a beast. Mad max style

Fellow Guzzi owner here. What is that thing?

It is THE thing... jk.  Its a 1985 V65TT.  They also made a V35 and V50 model.  They also used this model for theyre baja bike shown here....
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Got the italian trio out of the garage today.  So here are some better photos of Beatrice.
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Wow Im actually Mc luvin the 2nd gen headlight on that thing.
But whats up with the throttle cable ? Looks dangerous  [laugh]

Thanks!!  Its still in the works.... im looking into going to a single cable then split it to the two carbs.  It was ran fine stock i just have them pulled out at the moment.

Updated the build photos in this thread so they show up now.

Gotta love italian spaghetti..... The wiring is just.... so.... wtf!  Well it at least works.  And I now have my ignition switch and lights on/off switch right where i want them.  It will be cleaned up when I accomplish the next step of the project.  Plan: Single rear shock with re-routed exhaust.  That will probably have to wait till winter though.
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