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Title: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 09:40:02 AM I just got these in the mail. Do i need to now get a pin to go through and connect them. And if so, can you point me in the right direction on which one and where to get it. this is for a Ducati monster 696 2011. thanks.
http://i.imgur.com/atUVP.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/atUVP.jpg) Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders/Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 30, 2011, 09:45:49 AM fork sliders for a rear stand?
Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders/Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 09:48:18 AM it allows you to use them as sliders and also spools for a pit bul rear stand spool style(which i already have). i just thought it would automatically come with the pin...it did not. so not sure i need one or not.
Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders/Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 30, 2011, 09:49:25 AM Did you call the seller/manufacturer?
Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 09:51:07 AM sent them an email...just thought i'd throw the question out on here also. usually get responses here alot quicker.
Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 30, 2011, 09:55:49 AM Kind of a niche product, imho. The track spools I've used go into the swingarm directly, but I guess the axle is fine.
FYI if they are going into the rear, they aren't "fork" spools. Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 09:59:21 AM ok...my bike "words" sometimes aren't correct. as you can see by the pic of the sliders....the sliders go into that "hole"...the "hole" goes all the way thru...to me, it just seems that there should be a pin that connects the sliders since the "hole" goes all the way thru.
Title: Re: Question on Fork Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 30, 2011, 10:00:48 AM are they intended to remain on the bike when you're not using the stand?
i've put a bolt into each side of the axle hole of my SS bike to park it on the stand in my garage, but i don't leave them there. you can pick up a threaded rod at home depot and cut it down to size and bolt it on the ends. won't be metric, but that doesn't matter for this. Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 10:05:34 AM yes they are meant to stay on as sliders...its just how they are made, they double as spools for rear stands also. it's all i little ridiculous as it seems with everything that i buy for this bike, there's no info that another product needs to be bought so that the product you just bought will work(hahahaha)...i am learning, [bang]
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: stopintime on December 30, 2011, 10:10:25 AM You should have gotten a through-bolt.
If you didn't, maybe/probably they sent you a kit for swingarm bolt-on application Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 10:29:05 AM i thought so...i'm emailing with them as we speak. they seem to know less than me, which is scary. got it thru Twisted Throttle.com, the dude said he has to contact R&G to see what else i need, if anything. ugh
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 01:03:15 PM this is the email i got back: (can't see it but we'll see tomorrow when i get in the garage)
Terry, Ok, the tech tells me those are expanding inserts. They fit inside the sleeve of the axle and when the bolt is tightened, the angled insert expands to grip the inside. Nick Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 30, 2011, 01:04:28 PM i hope that insert is long, like 1.5-2" long because its going to have to support a lot of weight...
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: stopintime on December 30, 2011, 01:47:48 PM Wrong....
Their 696 fork protectors/sliders and their rear sliders/stand spools are connected by a through-rod/bolt. The idiot who answered you doesn't know what he's talking about (so it seems). My guess is still that you got the wrong kit. Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 08:14:24 PM Well i got one side on...right side. it does seem to do what he says, stripped the other side when tightening it...not the actual bolt but the plastic spool from the screw inside(might be able to fix with some glue(what a piece of shit).... [bang]
here's what the good side looks like: (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9177/securedownloaduq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/securedownloaduq.jpg/) Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: Howie on December 30, 2011, 09:24:41 PM Could you post a photo of the whole slider, including the expanding sleeve? Include measurements. Rear stand spools? Well, they won't work if you need to remove the wheel so they have limited use.
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: Raux on December 30, 2011, 09:46:17 PM take them out, take a photo of everythign you received, then send it and an email with your bike info directly to R&G Racing, they are in England so you may have to wait til Tuesday for a reply.
I am pretty certain a pressure fit axle slider cannot safely support the weight of the bike. Contact Simon at simon@rg-racing.com He's a good guy. Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 30, 2011, 10:17:16 PM will do...yes it definately feels like a thru pin would make me feel more comfortable. i'm going to do up a thorough email with pics tomorrow as i don't believe the dude at Twisted Throttle provided enough info....all i know is the kit i bought was for Ducati monster 696 2008+....not going to use a stand until i find out directly...thanks guys!!!
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: supperduc on December 31, 2011, 05:33:59 AM I have been using them as rear spools and sliders on my 2010 696 without any issues. I prefer these over the full length rod ones for quick removal. See pics:
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/superduc/DSC00021.jpg) (http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/superduc/DSC00044.jpg) (http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/superduc/DSC00045.jpg) (http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/superduc/DSC00046.jpg) Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: ducatiz on December 31, 2011, 05:38:55 AM if the nut is long enough it will support it. its unusual but with at least 3 or 4cm ofmetal it willbe ok
Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: Raux on December 31, 2011, 05:57:22 AM I stand corrected.
but an email to R&G wouldn't hurt Title: Re: Question on Rear Axle Sliders that can also be used as Spools for Rear Stand Post by: tlh235 on December 31, 2011, 06:27:52 AM yes, that's it...one of them is stripped though as when i go to tighten it, the metal part thats close to the "plastic" spool spins. not supposed to be able to pull the metal(gray part) closest to the spool out of the spool. might try some sort of glue or something. any ideas on the best stuff to use to? i have superglue and loctite already.
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