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Who wants one? Me. :P

Who's getting one? Me again. :P

Who has one already? Not me, I waited for 3G.

Is it worth it? I don't care, it's pretty and I need an update.  [roll] [roll]


 ;D July 11th!  ;D

Who wants one?  Me.

Who's getting one? Probably,  if unlocked versions are available or what sort of contracts you have to sign up to.

Who has one already? nah! waitin' for 3G.

Is it worth it? Probably, once again depends on V2.0 of the software and what app's are available at the iPhone store. (Need a PDF reader)

Who wants one? Me me me me please

Who's getting one?  Yeah most likely, depends on contract

Who has one already? Not me, I waited for 3G.

Is it worth it? But of course, it's an Apple product......


I'll wait till later in the year  [thumbsup]

That's what i thought you were going to say.  ;)

Apparently it's $199 for the 8gb, $299 for 16gb.

As for contracts, I'm not sure on that. ???

Is there such a big diff between 8 and 16 gig. I know, about 8 gig difference. [roll]

What won't the 8 gig do that the 16 gig will?

As far as i've read it's just storage space that's it.
the prices are US, here it is likely to be $250-ish 8gig and $400 for 16gig.
Somewhere on par with US prices plus our usual import taxes etc...
I am sure it will be on a 24 month contract with either provider Optus/Vodafone.
We'll when July 11th comes around.

Who wants one? Me.

Who's getting one? Me again.

Who has one already? Me. And I'm gonna upgrade it to the 3G.

Is it worth it? Yes. I don't regret a cent of what I paid for my 2.5G one last year even knowing I'm gonna be upgrading it 9 months later.


July 11th! Maybe, I'm still waiting to see what plans the local carriers offer, and whether it's worth me waiting til I'm in the states in Aug to get one there and unlock it myself.


big

Like Matty says, it's _only_ storage space - the extra 8 gig will let you keep ~1500 - 2000 extra songs in it, or something like 25 extra full length movies (compressed specially for the iPhone a 90-120 min movie comes out at ~350Meg).

big

Hey good idea Big.
I'll be in N.Y. latter in the year too.
Might be a place to buy it.
How do un-lock it to use here, do you have a crack-code....

Wait....WHAT!!!!!

You can put movies on it!

So, Big, what has got you hooked on this phone? Why is it "better" than other phones, except for the movies and songs bit.

I was going to get an iplod but I think I will wait for the phone. Kill two birds, as they say.  ;)

Yep, you need to come to Bar Italia some time and have Melvin show you all the cool You Tube stuff he's got on his iPod Touch. I've got a few bits of video on my iPhone, but I don't watch TV at home, why would I want to watch it on my phone?  ;)


It's the only actual working web browser on a phone I've ever used. It's got great email support (though it took a little tweaking to make it work well with my mail setup). As alpha geek here at work an ssh client in my pocket has been _very_ useful for off-site disaster repair. Other than that, it just "works right" - I didn't think I wanted googlemaps on my phone, but _geez_ that's been useful a few times! I don't like reading books on tiny screens, but the few eBooks I've downloaded have come in very handy while waiting for people in cafes or pubs.


Yeah, it very much does. I used to use my 60gig iPod pretty much every day, my iPhone has pretty much taken over - I need to manage my music collection a bit more on the 8gig iPhone, but it spends most of its days on my desk at work docked to the computer charging, so it's no big deal to move albums and playlists on and off it every now and then, and hell, it's almost twice as big as my original 5gig iPod, and I happily survived with only the ~100 albums it would store as my "carry around collection"...

I don't think the iPhone is anything like as "revolutionary" as Steve Jobs would like people to think, Blackberry has done mobile email well for years, Windows Mobile phones do a _reasonable_ job of web browsing, the iPod was certainly not the first mp3 walkman replacement, but when you compare the iPhones non-phone functionality with anything else, Apple got everything integrated _so_ much better than anybody else - it really does "just work" for nearly everything. (Note, I'm not trying to say the iPhone is perfect, it's certanly got a few minor niggles that annoy me, not so much 'cause they're serious problems, but mainly issues where I can imagine apple having done something in a way that'd make it work better for me - the lack of copy and paste in email frustrates me, as does the lack of block-select-to-delete, but both of those issues require some serious thought into how to make them work "properly" with the touch screen interface, and Apple are realy good about not having half-arsed "solutions" to hard problems, which is why I suspect those things have been "left out" for now.)

should-be-working-big

Looks like only AT&T will be selling them in the U.S.A. No 24 month contract no iPhone (they want to stop jailbreaking/hacks)
Though it looks like you can sign up for 24 months with AT&T pay the first month then cancel after 30 days, pay a US$175 termination fee and have an unlocked iPhone.

IN AU, Apple resellers here may have to become optus or vodaphone agents to sell the iPhone.
If unsubsidised/no contract models are sold here, the price will have to be higher than the iPod touch, $399 (8GB) $499 (16GB).

AU details should be revealed soon

Yeah, I'm waiting to see the price differences and contract arrangements - $375 or $475 on a cancelled contract from San Francisco is still likely to be cheaper than a local one bought outright (and there's still a possibility that the rumours saying you'll need to enter the contract to get the phone _may_ just be rumours). I still want to see if any of the local telcos are going to offer particularly good voice/data plans, that may push my decision in their favour (I'm pretty happy with my two separate voice and data plans from voda right now, if they'll roll something like them together as an iPhone plan at a good price it'd be very tempting). I'm also sounding out the possibility of getting work to get me one, which'll mean the pricing issue becomes moot ;-)

big

Where do you watch MotoGP and WSBK then?  ;)

As for your other input, sounds pretty good. There's only a few good bands/music that i listen to so I wouldn't take up too much space anyway. I have a 1 gig Sony Walkman and I haven't even filled that up yet.  [roll]

yep I have an 8 gig ickpod and it ain't close to full.

Heh, my 60gig is full, and it's only about 30% of my cd collection... (and yeah, everything on my iPod is either a cd I own, a bought download, or legally downloaded free music like the REM and NIN albums or the iTunes free song of the week.)

It scares me sometimes, my cd collection represents around about a Desmocedicci...

big

Well there's a deposit on a new Monster if ever you need it.

Bah! why would I sell the cd collection? I've still got two kidneys!

big (have you seen how little 2nd hand cd's sell for these days? I'd be lucky to fill the damn tank!)

Was kinda meaning you could use them as insurance collateral or something to that effect.
are they all insured?
Yeah I know how much pre-loved CD's are worth sold a bunch before I moved to Canada some years back.
Think I got enough to pay for....... Well nothing actually.

How much are pre-loved LP's worth?

Now I'm showing my age. [roll]

BTW, Happy Birthday Matty, a bit belatedly. Sooooo, did you get a special present from your lovely wife?  ;D

You too, huh? There's 3 milk crate sized boxes of them hiding under the stairs too - around 8 hundred or so of them... I keep telling myself that one of these days I'll get round to ripping the ones I'd still listen too to mp3 - what actually happens is I decide I want to head something old, an I figure it's easier to buy it on iTunes than dig out the vinyl and the turntable... I bought Blow By Blow by Jeff Beck exactly like that a few weeks ago...

big

But the vinyl sound is awesome.  [thumbsup]

We will never have that sound again.

I don't know what you could call it, but it just feels right, the sound of the black circle.

<SPIN SPIN, SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE!>

 [evil]

Softbank corp exclusive japanese carrier for iPhone has released cost and plans.
8GB.....$224.23 (23040 yen)
16GB...$336.43 (34560 yen)
Both iPhones on a minimum of............Unlimited data plan with free calls to other Softbank subscribers.............$70.85 (7280 yen) a month.

No mention of no contract iPhones with Southbank.

I have one, have had it for 6 months, love it, and wont bother to upgrade, well, not until there is a 32gb version, at which time I"ll give mine to my girlfriend.
Z..

Here is what I read this morning in a mag, I can't remember it word for word,

"The iPhone will retail for $199 with a contract and $250 for prepay" for the 8gig I'd say.

It's starting to make my mind up for me.  ;)

that's sounds too good to miss; hope it will be the case.........than i will be walking around with my BlackBerry, iPod Touch and an iPhone...need a beemer for a bike to carry this gear

Why would you need a Dingleberry and an iPhone? AND an iPod touch?

Not sure what the 'berry can do compared to the iPhone? Wouldn't having the iPhone mean the iPod is redundant? Maybe even the Dingleberry?

got the two 'cos an iTouch doesn't make calls; but the thought of having an iPhone for such a paltry sum is too tempting to resist; common sense does not apply...hope you're right about the price
if not, well, than.....will worry about it after the 11th

Telstra announced they will offer the iPhone
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23945988-5016091,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23945988-5016091,00.html)
8GB/$279/24 month contract/$30 month or free, 24 month contract at $80 per month.
16GB/$399/24 month contract/$30 month or free, 24 month contract at $100 per month

They have made no mention of data cost or amount.
Still waiting on optus and vodaphone

Jeebus, that's steep!

yeah but with a company phone plan that's all tied up with Telstra, its great news to me  ;D

And me who's already locked into a "first born" contract with Next G.
Got a draw with some notes in it waiting to see what I do and with who.

Just watched the 20 min video on apple site showing the features of the iphone.
Man I really can't wait to get my hands on this device now.
Just waiting to see if the Apple store will be selling them outright and how much.
Or will call Telstra to see if i can upgrade my contract to include iphone and a data package.

Hmmmm, me want, me want, me want

Release is tommorrow isn't it?

I asked my Telstra dealer about it last week. They had NFI about the pricing of plans. They also suspected that supply would be thin for Telstra dealers but not a problem for Apple dealers.

could this be true than?

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Telstra-silent-after-losing-iPhone-deal-/0,130061791,339289865,00.htm



optus has listed their plans for the iPhone a while back

they prob haven't changed the marketing then but it says they are selling them here

http://www.apple.com/au/iphone/buy/?cid=AOS-AU-iPhone-C0007302-&Email_PageName=C0007302-&Email_OID=279828&cp=125864&sr=em

I've been watching the shenanigans that has been the launch of the 3G iPhone with great interest,

The Telstra early effort with very few details, only now coming out with some, and they are crap, as expected. miniscule data, $25 of calls, big handset costs

the Optus plan release which turns out to be the leader, reasonable data, calls, price

and Vodafone which has royally screwed up, left their release up till the last moment, and they still got it horribly wrong.

Probably the best place to find out about all the goings on is

http://forums.mactalk.com.au/iphone-mobile-phones/

but i warn you, its addictive  [cheeky]

Rich great to see you drop in.
Thanks for the link but gee it is addictive.......

well, it's here

been there to have a look, went by an apple store as well.......crazy people.........



http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/the-iphone-wait-is-over/2008/07/11/1215658049685.html

Have a look at how many people were at the Vodafone store...... [roll]

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/video/?vxSiteId=6eb02996-d2d9-45cc-bb79-8b5b3340f4f8&vxChannel=frontPagePicks&vxClipId=1094_348142&vxBitrate=300 (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/video/?vxSiteId=6eb02996-d2d9-45cc-bb79-8b5b3340f4f8&vxChannel=frontPagePicks&vxClipId=1094_348142&vxBitrate=300)

quote from MacTack website @ 12.39 last night:

...Vodafone down the road had a grand total of zero about an hour ago, unless you count their security guard... But they do gave a red carpet you can sleep on behind their barricade!...

Dont mention that you have any intention regarding owning one , ordering one or thinking about one, you may upset I  cop  [leo]

Just the fact that its called iphone will drive him nuts [bang]

I went out for lunch today, and got fried rice, and orange juice, and a black 8 gig 3G iPhone...

big

Damn you Big!

You just got one as easy as that?

Did you get fries with that?

It is extremely tempting, not sure whether to go with Optus or Vodapwned.

I don't know whether I should wait or get it now, I can't see the hype over this phone dissipating which for me means, the price won't drop that much. 

DAMN YOU IPHONE! (http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/angry14.gif) (http://smileyjungle.com)

Dear Mr Big,

I would like to bring to your attention some comments made by you.

You have used “I” and “got” in your days description Boasting about your haves.This language is frowned upon on the oz monster forum. In the interest of comfort for others on the board. Please restrain yourself from using any instigating "Have" phrases in the future .This board was created to discuss what we can’t have or buy and even thinking of not buying.

Thank you

Mr Somdumguy,

When I get one of these iphone items
I will be porting over to Optus as I think they have the best deal.

Good one Matty now he's going to off load more drivel on me  [bang]

picked my pre paid one up today
i love it the camera sucks but hey something was bound to let it down

yeah I know it's only 2MP but then I don't really care about snapping pics with my phone.

i dont use the camera very much but with a 1 year old around sometimes you just need to get a shoot
love everything else though

Yeah, some of us have "proper" cameras.

:D

Z...

16G W H I T E ,   8)

only lined up for a few hours at the Apple store on launch day, it was actually fun, all those nerds... :P

VERY cool device, few little niggles, but all in all  [thumbsup]

Rich, that's great who's it with Vodafone, Octupus or the Telstra (expensive)
I'm lining up a black model, hopefully soon.

Matty, had to go with with Optus, only choice when you look at the plans. reasonable data and call caps, all for a reasonable price.

At the Apple store which had the only stock of phones left!!, they had all three carriers connecting,
the Telstra line had NO ONE waiting,
the Vodafone had maybe 10,
and the Optus line started upstairs, then down to ground floor, and went all the way around the inside wall of the shop then continued out the door,  ;D

I love it when those Telstra pricks get a rocket, its a shame our country cousins get stung by them when there is no alternative.

On another note, i had to upgrade my iTunes and OS to talk with the phone, and only have a small bandwidth at home.
So I rang Apple, they told me to come into the store, use their free wi-fi, download all the software i need, I know the software is all free, but its not free to actually download it at home, so i think just good service.
I also had a couple of great people helping me work everything out on the laptop, they didn't have to, again just good service.  [thumbsup]

That's at least partly because Vodafone's marketing people either completely don't understand the iPhone and it's internet capabilities, or because they're morons.

I connected to the cheapest Voda plan, $69/month gets me 250MB of data, 100 free texts, and "$310 of credit". Now 250MB of data isn't enough. _But_, what's _really_ hard to discover from all Voda's promotional material is that excess data is charged at 12c per meg, and it comes off "under the cap", so that $310 of credit represents over 2.5Gig of excess data[1]. Even when I factor in my (low) talk time usage of ~$30/month, that means I can still use 2.3G of excess data plus the 250Meg included without paying any extra. _That_ is, I think, enough...

big

[1] http://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/plans/termsandconditions/index.htm

Hey Big, Agree with what you have to say about the marketing guys, Telcos in general here are still in the 90's as regard data enabled phones

Do you go through a large amount of data on your first gen?
I found out the iPhone seeks out wi-fi networks first before it goes onto 3G or 2G, I have Wi-fi at home and work and the optus Wi-fi in the city, oh and the countless open Wi-fi accounts just walking down the street  ;D, and i determined i wouldn't be using a huge amount of data on 3G.

The Voda deal sounds good, you must be good at finding the needle in a haystack, because i couldn't find the data costs coming out of the cap in the fine print.

I went onto 12 month deal with optus and wanted a slightly cheaper monthly spend which Optus had, $49 250MB and $300 of calls

Will it Blend. (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone3g)

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Some good Apps for the iPhone, but a lot of crap as well, here's one that might be good for us Desmo owners

SignalScope,

expensive at 29.99, but for 4 valve owners who do their own servicing, might be able to do the job of checking frequency for belt tensioning.
Cheaper than other equivalent equipment,

just a thought

Richie

with my paranoia i've bought eWallet .... and it was only $12.99

Well, I hope it took the $12.99 out of your eWallet to pay for it.  ;)

I'm still thinking about getting one....I may go down to the Apple store early Monday morning to hook myself up. And then coffee at Mecca. :D :D :D


What is it supposed to do?

http://twitpic.com/573t

At least there'll be coffee..

;-)

big

They'd better bloody have 'em! (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0177.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)

I don't often go into the city and sit outside a shop for a bloody phone!

Now look what you made me write! I'm starting to change my mind about this iPhone nonsense!  [bang] [bang] [bang]

I remember reading of a method of tensioning belts on 4 valve engines.
It used a tool to measure the frequency produced by the belt when it is "plucked". Depending what frequency the belt spat out, you would tension or loosen as required.
I think you could also use this on 2 valves, just a different frequency required

This little app might be able to give you the tools to conduct this

Anyone else seen this method?

yep this one,

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=35050

Though the old low tech 5mm allen wrench under the idler pulley seems simpler.

5mm allen works well with 2V,

but with 4V, not so

Who wants one? i Did.

Who's getting one? Not Me.

Who has one already? Not me.

Is it worth it? It Doesn't let make Video's, So No It's Not.

But if you. Want a video camera buy a video camera then .
This is a mobile computer!

& a very expensive iPod

My intial plan was to get the iPhone, but after weighing it all up and hearing that the phone needs recharging after a day and all the hoopla about it, the pricing and how hard it is to get one, I've decided against getting one and instead getting a Nokia N95 8gig.

5meg camera, 8 gig of music/vids, gps and other stuff that I can't remember.

That's all I want.  [thumbsup]

I walked into the Mac store with no appointment, waited 30 mins (cafe time) and got hooked up.
No ordering of the phone and waiting for days/weeks  for it to arrive.
I got the iphone cause it links perfectly with my system at home, not only email/music (already have an ipod that i hardly use)
But most important for me my calendar transfers and that is #1 for me, no other phone on the market works seamlessly in a Mac system.
Nokia transfers some functions but not all.

Best of all if I have any trouble with any part of my iphone I can make an appointment and see someone at the Mac store to have any issue
addresses and solved. Haven't heard of any other provider/retailer doing that. The Nokia centre near me is just for repairs no-one there is interested in helping you with problems and we tried when the GLW got a new Nokia it went back 3 times until it was replaced each time it was take a number get served and say bye bye.

I never mind paying a little extra when great service is attached. 

iPhone is hot and in its own way good but this nokia is the ants-pants in a mobile phone world

............ but wait ........... N96 is being released ........ soon    (august is tipped as the date)  ;D




dual-band 3G/HSDPA GPS with A-GPS support WLAN WI-FI 5meg ZEISS lens CAMERA AND ............. LOOKS LIKE an iPhone .......... same thickness too

now THAT is what you want   [thumbsup]

doesn't look anywhere near as sexy as iphone though.
and my battery life is pretty okay, i have been getting 2.5 days from it.

I'm happy with my decision, that's all that matters.  ;)

Cool as am I.
Canon/Nikon
iphone/nokia

at least we know we all like Monsters and  [bacon]

Not saying I don't like the iPhone, I would love one but, I'm afraid I will hurt it considering the work environment I'm in. Nokia seems a little sturdier & it looks like it will do what I want it to do i.e Make a phone call.  [roll]

Monsters &  [bacon] &  [drink] &  [wine] &  [drink] [drink] [drink] &  [puke] [puke] [puke] & in the morning  [bacon] [coffee].   [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

2 of my mates got one then found out you cant send MMS, what kind of a phone is that. both want to get rid of them now
Rich

yeah true that! I guess everything has it's limitations.
on another note, it's really pretty....