I am working on a project for a universal fit tanks for 2v models and 4v models.
I need to check clearance on the S4xx models and on the carbed 2v models.
if you have one, I can come to you. I will need to take the tank off, and put a different tank on to check the clearance and hose routings.
I will bring a 6-pack of something good. If you don't drink, I'll bring you some flowers and chocolates.
If you can get the gas level very low, it should take about 2 hours. If you remove your tank yourself, then less than an hour.
No harm shall come to your bike. I just need to measure clearance against the tank I am using for the prototype.
sitting in my garage are a 98 carbed 900 Monster, an 01 carbed 750 Monster, and an 05 FI 620 Monster....
I have a tank from a carb'ed bike sitting in my garage, you're welcome to keep it for a while if you need. The tank is house trained and will let you know when it needs to relieve itself.. [cheeky] [laugh]
Quote from: zooom on January 27, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
sitting in my garage are a 98 carbed 900 Monster, an 01 carbed 750 Monster, and an 05 FI 620 Monster....
thx pm coming
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 27, 2012, 09:50:09 AM
I have a tank from a carb'ed bike sitting in my garage, you're welcome to keep it for a while if you need. The tank is house trained and will let you know when it needs to relieve itself.. [cheeky] [laugh]
thanks senor pepe, i need the bike not the tank!
Quote from: ducatiz on January 27, 2012, 09:55:17 AM
thanks senor pepe, i need the bike not the tank!
I have the frame laying around too... ;D
Since you mentioned measurements, I thought you might be interested in the "indentation" (???) under the tank for the airbox/battery/crap... ;)
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 27, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
I have the frame laying around too... ;D
Since you mentioned measurements, I thought you might be interested in the "indentation" (???) under the tank for the airbox/battery/crap... ;)
I need the engine in the frame so I can measure clearances. thanks for the offer tho
Quote from: ducatiz on January 27, 2012, 10:06:42 AM
I need the engine in the frame so I can measure clearances. thanks for the offer tho
So .... no beer for me? :'(
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Kudos for your efforts, btw!
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 27, 2012, 10:16:41 AM
So .... no beer for me? :'(
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Kudos for your efforts, btw!
How about a nice amaro?
Out of curiosity, what material(s) are you considering using?
Quote from: potomacduc on January 27, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
Out of curiosity, what material(s) are you considering using?
5051 aluminum
WELL....today it's a Monster tank, tommorrow he'll conquer the SC series tanks...LOL
in the end, I say good on you in this endeavour!
zooom is hinting at where I am going with this. As you may know, the first gen Multistrada has tank expansion issues as well. Like the Monsters, the Sport Classic tanks are relatively simply shaped. Unfortunately, the Multistrada tank has a rather complicated shape. Members on multistrada.net have queried a few aluminum fabricators that make motorcycle tanks and the general response seems to be that if they would even consider it, the pricing for a Multistrada tank would be excessive. Nonetheless, I'll be interested to see what you learn through this endeavor. If you make the tank big enough, who knows; maybe I'll swap my 1000DS motor into a Monster frame....
On another note, there is word that a few new gen (MTS1200) Multistrada tanks have been replaced for expansion. This boggles the mind. How could Ducati/Acerbis/others possibly let this happen again? [bang]
I've already brought up the issue of other tanks and the only "problem" is the much smaller number. Monsters make up almost half of all the bikes sold and I can probably make a single tank that will for for all 2v bikes between 1993 and 2008. I can't do that with the SBK, Multi or SC tanks.
That being said, it is entirely possible that the price might be more palatable even in smaller quantities. If you have a tank for me, let's talk.
What sort of threshold is needed to bring the costs down? Are we talking dozens, hundreds or thousands? The first gen Multistrada accounted for something like 17% of Ducati production during its run, so while certainly well below Monster #s, we are still talking about thousands sold per year. The expansion problem seems largely limited to the US, but the scourge of ethanol is spreading and the problem will be cropping up across the pond as well.
I don't have a spare tank for examination, but I am quite certain one could be drummed up from multistrada.net. I understand that you may want to take one thing at a time and figure out a Monster solution first, but if you are interested in Multi-tasking ([laugh]), I could certainly put out a call on multistrada.net for a tank.
This issue had a lot of momentum on multistrada.net a while back, but when Ducati started replacing tanks left and right, the interest waned. Now that the class action suit has been settled and people can see the end of Ducati's goodwill to replace tanks, the interest is starting to perk back up. I would say that if you had an aluminum replacement tank available right now at a "palatable" price, you could probably sell a couple of dozen Multi tanks pretty quickly. Beyond that, who knows. Like I said, there are thousands of Multis out there, potentially with this problem.
I have a '94 M900, but it has FCRs (banked) instead of the factory carbs. If you find any benefit taking measurements of mine, just lmk...
If you need to measure his ^^^ airbox, just let ME know! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on January 30, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
If you need to measure his ^^^ airbox, just let ME know! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
;D
I've got and S4RS although I'm in Annapolis so I'm not sure how "local" that is to you. It's here if you need it.
cheers
Mike
I've got a 2001 M600. I will be changing the belts and hunting down some electrical problems this Sunday, so it should not be a problem for you to try out your tank. PM me if interested. I'm near Burke, VA.
s4rs anytime it's needed... but I think Mike's in Annapolis is closer to you.
No one with an S4, S4RS living closer to Nova?
Quote from: ducatiz on January 31, 2012, 12:48:22 PM
No one with an S4, S4RS living closer to Nova?
I could go pick one up and ride it over and back.... [evil]
[laugh]
If you need to take measurements you can look at mine..it is a 2006 S4R with a metal tank...the fuel pump is different than most others. Not sure if it would help at all??
My garage is nice and warm too. ;D
Quote from: extra330 on February 03, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
My garage is nice and warm too. ;D
Still need to come visit that garage...
Perhaps an end of winter valve adjusting party is in order. It's really just a garage, nothin special.
Quote from: extra330 on February 07, 2012, 08:51:11 AM
Perhaps an end of winter valve adjusting party is in order. It's really just a garage nothin special with a shim kit.
Fixed