Ducati Monster Forum

12k service,

How much does it usually cost and what the hell do they do for the money?

Im about on 9K miles now, i probably need to start saving up.

Too much.  :o

I'd check out Cheshire if I were you.  I hear lots of good things about their work and Deric was very helpful and informative when I talked to him about getting some work done.

I did my own 12K.  It wasn't cheap - had to buy tools - and it took me forever becuase I'm not mechanically inclined.  It hasn't blown up yet so I think I did OK.  ;)

I can do some things, what is included?? I guess i will call cheshire and find out.

Belt change, valve check/adjust - that's the "fun" part, ummm . . . that's all I remember. 

12k involves all lube and filter actions (change crankcase oil, fork oil, chassis lube, air filter, fuel filter), replace cam belts, spark plugs and possibly the chain if it's a stretched-out grandmother. I think a complete 12k would be pretty in-depth if it were professional. Dunno if it's necessary to tear the bike down, but personally I'd consider a change of brake and clutch fluid, a good look at brake pads and rotors, check play in the steer head and axles, check valve lash, battery electrolyte, frame/chassis for any cracks, and make sure all nuts and bolts are still on the bike and tight. My theory is, for the cost of a service bill, even if you have to buy tools, anything is worth learning how to do on your own if you ever have to do it more than once. There's a lot of merit in letting an experienced third party do the work if they were to catch a potential safety issue, or if something you check actually does need to be replaced/repaired, but that can go both ways depending on their enthusiasm or carelessness. The owner is probably the most inclined to care the most. I know I am.

I just had an 18K service done by Cheshire Motorsports (http://www.cheshiremotorsports.com/).

The total was $758.56, but I had the timing belts changed, and a set of new tires installed/ballanced ($80).

The price for parts was the same as MotoCorsa, and labor was cheaper.  He did an excellent job on the service, he even fixd things I didn't tell him about.

When I had my 12K done at MotoCorsa, it was around $1200, but I had them install a 520 chain and new sprockets. 

At both places I've had great service, and I wouldn't hesitate to recomend either one.

A lot of the service is premature you can prolly push it a few thousand.

I'd call the shop and find out how much to save as service price has changed. 

But I guess from 500 to 1000 dollars.

Do the valve job if you are at red line a lot.

12 or 18k is a good time to have them "set" after that they usually stay pretty good.

Change the belts.
Check your chain and sprockets.
Change Air,Oil,Fuel filters.
Check/replace your bearings, headset, wheels.
Change Oil and hydraulic fluid.
Change park plugs.
Synchronize throttle bodies.

I blew my clutch out at ~15k but that is me

Most of it you can do yourself... and the shop is a good place to go if you don't feel comfortable doing it (or have time).

Yeah, I have been having trouble with my PARK plugs too. The bike doesn't seem to want to go into park; no matter what I do to it I can only find 1-6 and neutral.

The Doc

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Don't forget to recharge the flux capacitor.

Completely drain, flush, refill, and bleed the blinker fluid.

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=6

blinker fluid....check!

They got all sorts of goodies on that site!

      Cross Drilled Brake Lines, Engine Oil Bypass Kit, and Passenger Noise Reducer

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I just had Julie's Ninja 250 tuned up, valves, carbs, oil with filter, and all adjusted for like $250 at SDS Performance in Lake Oswego... close to Bridgeport.... they did a really good job on it. Rides like a... uh... 250 now....  Still has no real balls... but is fun to ride. 


We getting a "Where should I get my bike serviced?" locked thread for stuff like this??

They also setup race bikes, for all you racing peeps.

Hey guys.... I forgot... I have a coupon for SDS.... it's for 30% off labor.... pretty good deal. But it is only good till Sept 1st. Let me know if any of you want it. I think it brings their labor from $85 to like $60. 

Lily's "down" again.  I was gonna take her to Cheshire but if'n you're givin this away I might take up on it.  Anyone got FHE with SDS?

My experience is just with the Neenja.... seems fine to me... valves, carbs, and full tune up.... in the $250 range... but its a tiny lil bike too. Call em up and see if they have an idea on cost... plus it is pretty close to you. (Who knows if they do Ducs?)  Also... they just opened... they used to be a Bend area shop I think. I think Tyson from the Cascade Track Time owns or runs the joint.

dam dude what happened now?

My 12k service will be toward the end of this riding season (I'm at about 10500 right now).  I intend on having the service done in my own garage.  ;)  I'll be finding the least expensive source for high-quality or OEM parts.

Thanks for the list Bendy... I'll probably use that as a basis for my own 12k checklist.  Of course, it will all be meticulously logged in my bike's maintenance/ownership logbook.

I was figuring on:

--crankcase oil & filter
--timing belts
--valve check (adjust as needed)
--spark plugs
--clean air filter (it's a K&N)
--flush all clutch and brake fluid (even though it's all still clear & filled)
--inspect brake pads
--disassemble, inspect, and clean clutch pack (it's been getting a bit grabby in the last 1000 miles or so)
--check chain tension, clean & lube

Hadn't thought about checking the steering head bearings as part of the 12k.  Actually, I was just looking at the steering stem the other day and wondering how often the bearings need checked for play.  It would also be a wise idea to check the wheel bearings, though I figure I'll check those when I pull the wheels off to have tires mounted/balanced.  I bought a rear back in Spring... waited to burn up the rest of the Pilot Race... then got close enough to summer I figured I'd wait for Cycle Gear to run a 25% off coupon and buy a front to have swapped at the same time... coupon never arrived (not sure if it will, this is quite a bit later than when they mailed it out last year).  Anyway, I'll pick up a front at some point here and have both tires swapped.  May be after the season, because the rear ain't gone yet.

Still the intermittent start issue.

crap ola!  Good luck.

Do you still have spark, Chuck? Pull out a plug and put the wire back on, then crank it and watch the plug. It can't be too complicated of an issue.

I've got my bike in to Cheshire right now for the 12k, along with tire mounts and a complaint about REALLY hard starting when cold.  Eagerly awaiting the results.  Less eagerly awaiting the cost.

Cheshire treated me well when I went to him for an 18K service. [thumbsup]

No spark that I just saw.  Checked both plugs.

What you got?  Something quick Billy and I can check before we go?

I wager she's already at Cheshire, but that should isolate it to an ignition problem. She's in good hands now. I'm not too knowledgeable on the fool injection setup of the newer Monsters without looking, unfortunately. I'd have started with relays, voltage regulator, coils, et cetera, if applicable.

These were my exact words as I raised the tailgate to leave Cheshires shop tonight  8)

All I heard was "It's time for a drink!"  ;D

Thanks again Billy! 

And for those curious.  I cleaned the plugs, tried to see if there was spark and got nothing.  Being the obstinate person I am I tried starting her again before Billy got there hoping I could ride up and he'd just bring me back . . . nothing.

Drop her off.  Shawn asks if the starter turns over and I say, yah.  It turns over great.  With a disbelieving look in his eye he turns the key, thumbs the starter and . . . VROOOOMMMMM!!!!

"See." I said "The starter turns over fine."

It was funny and oh so aggravating at the same time.

Billy and I both expected it though.  We discussed how those intermittent issues DO NOT occur when the "fix it" person is around on the way there.

Thanks for stopping by Plan B for a visit Vic.  Always good to see you.

Isn't that the way it always works? Wanna borrow the Ninja 250 for a ride? he he he... would cure you of wanting to race one.... yikes... no power at all.

I had a starting problem last year.  I still have the kick stand down = no start thing from the factory.  I start it and warm it up a bit.  Go get my gear on and no start.  After about 3 days of this, I load it in the truck to Motocorsa, thats a 2 hour drive.  Get there and still no start, great, with the on again off again who knew what would happen.

Well after about 30 minutes it's figured out.  You see, I have a full belly pan, so you can't see the bottom of the engine.  Turns out, the bolt holding the wire to the starter was loose, sometimes you got a connection, sometimes not.

Cheapest bill I ever got from Motocorsa.  ;D

I picked up my bike from Cheshire yesterday, after the 12k.  Man, does it purr now.  Noticeably smoother.

The 12k service, all parts, mounting two tires that I provided, almost an hour of messing with an oddly placed brake lever, and suspension setup, came to just over $750.  Plus, Daric noticed and straightened a bent tank latch.

Awesome service.   [clap]

Daric mentioned that he's probably going to need to hire a service assistant next season (an actual wrencher, in addition to the desk/phones/ordering guy that he's got now).  So, if anyone has experience and is looking for a job for next summer, you could let him know.  http://www.cheshiremotorsports.com/ (http://www.cheshiremotorsports.com/)