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Title: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sebastienb on January 27, 2012, 09:13:27 PM
Finally made it to 600 miles last week. Taking my bike in tomorrow for the checkup. Back when I just got my bike I was thinking of getting the the 14 t sprocket but now I'm getting used to running my bike over 4k rpm. What the average percentage of owners that get the 14 t ?


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 27, 2012, 10:50:10 PM
Finally made it to 600 miles last week. Taking my bike in tomorrow for the checkup. Back when I just got my bike I was thinking of getting the the 14 t sprocket but now I'm getting used to running my bike over 4k rpm. What the average percentage of owners that get the 14 t ?

Of those with new Monsters on this forum, I'd guess unscientifically ~ 70% - 80%. The others don't know what they are missing.  ;) It's a really cheap and DNA approved mod; if you hate it, no biggie. (I'd be shocked if you didn't like it, particularly in traffic where YOU live!)

If you leave the exhaust, ECU and intake stock, you'll need to keep it over 4,000 RPM anyway. You'll just be able to go slower doing it and 6th becomes an almost useable gear on the Interstate whereas with a 15T at 4,000 you'll already be illegal.  ;)


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Bishamon on January 28, 2012, 05:36:35 AM
I had a 14T installed on my 796 during my 12 month service, and it was both inexpensive and worthwhile.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: justinrhenry on January 28, 2012, 08:19:59 AM
i had the 14t sprocket put on my streetfighter at 600 miles and didn't notice any difference. 


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 28, 2012, 09:21:28 AM
i had the 14t sprocket put on my streetfighter at 600 miles and didn't notice any difference.

 ???

Firstly, an 848 is a 4-valve with different characteristics. Secondly, the gearing is a bit different, no?


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: justinrhenry on January 28, 2012, 10:57:19 AM
???

Firstly, an 848 is a 4-valve with different characteristics. Secondly, the gearing is a bit different, no?

just trying to share my experience.  i mentioned the type of bike.  take it for what it's worth. 


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sebastienb on January 28, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
The dealer at the shop recommended I keep the stock sprocket a little longer and see if I still want to change it after 1000 miles. Seems like I'm getting used to it but it's still a bit annoying in traffic. Thanks for the advice guys! Now that I can rev her higher maybe I can stay in 1st gear when riding in 10 mph traffic


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 29, 2012, 07:29:42 AM

Lazy dealer? [thumbsdown]

When I came back from my test ride and told my dealer, (ex-racer, owner, shop foreman, chief wrench), how overgeared the bike was and that it needed to drop a tooth, he said, "True..., which is the reason that's the most common mod on Monsters".

So, why do YOU think DP sells a 14T? (Most people fit a "Driven" or other 'cause it's cheaper.) This is a DNA-approved swap.

There is no reason for you to spend $10K+ and "live with" something which is only there to get past EC ride-by sound testing.

Maybe you need a real dealer. This is my 9th Ducati. Two needed this swap out the door. Seven didn't. If the bike won't pull redline in 6th, gear it down!  8)


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on January 29, 2012, 01:16:46 PM
???

Firstly, an 848 is a 4-valve with different characteristics. Secondly, the gearing is a bit different, no?

whats an 848 got to do with a 2010 streetfighter S?

changing gear ratios has a simialr affect across all engine types. I would say it is more noticable on the higher displacement 4 valves as those are generally the ones that struggle with low gear, low rpm situations the most...


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 29, 2012, 01:37:22 PM
whats an 848 got to do with a 2010 streetfighter S?

changing gear ratios has a simialr affect across all engine types. I would say it is more noticable on the higher displacement 4 valves as those are generally the ones that struggle with low gear, low rpm situations the most...

Missed the "S" in his signature line. http://www.ducati.com/bikes/streetfighter/streetfighter_s/2010/tech_spec.do (http://www.ducati.com/bikes/streetfighter/streetfighter_s/2010/tech_spec.do) Even less reason to do a 14T IMO.

Obviously our mileage varies. My 851 had no need to lose a tooth. :P


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on January 29, 2012, 01:55:44 PM
Missed the "S" in his signature line. http://www.ducati.com/bikes/streetfighter/streetfighter_s/2010/tech_spec.do (http://www.ducati.com/bikes/streetfighter/streetfighter_s/2010/tech_spec.do) Even less reason to do a 14T IMO.

Obviously our mileage varies. My 851 had no need to lose a tooth. :P

regardless of S, 848 street fighter doesn't come out for a few months yet...

why would that be even less reason to do a 14t?


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 29, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
regardless of S, 848 street fighter doesn't come out for a few months yet...

why would that be even less reason to do a 14t?

Never had any trouble crawling with the 851. Fairly smooth, even at low revs and no jerking. You ride a 4V? I would expect any 4V to be equally smoother than a 2V.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on January 29, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Never had any trouble crawling with the 851. Fairly smooth, even at low revs and no jerking. You ride a 4V? I would expect any 4V to be equally smoother than a 2V.

I own a 2v but ride 4V's often. I find that regardless of what motor, all (current) Ducati's benefit from the 14t in urban environments.  I also find that the more power a bike makes the more useful the 14t is (in stop and go traffic) and that it has even less of a negative impact as the more powerful bikes top end is already ridiculous.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: thought on January 29, 2012, 06:18:16 PM
I've got the stock gearing in my sf and I really cant see any reason to drop down to a 14t.  It's just gobs of torque and power everywhere, making it revvier would make it too crazy i think.  Most sf owners that post on ducati.ms only seem to drop down a size if they have issues with the 4k rpm dead spot it seems.

though i guess if you really were stuck in stop and go traffic for over 75% of your riding, a 14t might be a good idea.  but then again, you're prob riding the wrong bike if that's the normal state of affairs for your riding.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: r_ciao on January 29, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
I waited one year then changed to the 14t.  It was like falling in love all over again.  If you ride mostly in town or in stop and go traffic or just like the lower end torque for getting off the line quicker, do it.


Ciao!


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sebastienb on January 29, 2012, 11:32:49 PM
Think i'll just do it next time I go there, or check how much it cost to get it done at this other bike shop, they fix ducs there too.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: SDRider on January 30, 2012, 07:04:50 AM
I put around 2500 miles on my 1100 EVO before going with the 14T sprocket and it just leaps off the line and doesn't feel like it is lugging below 4000rpms anymore.  I can cruise along the freeway and actually use 6th gear now.  With the 15T I had to be going at least 80 just to shift into 6th and not lug the engine.  Probably lost a bit of top end speed and I'll admit that my shift points all went down which means more shifting but it was worth it.  Besides, it was only $60 for the sprocket and I still have the 15T I can swap back at any time if I want.  It's a really easy mod to do yourself.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sgollapalle on January 30, 2012, 10:04:36 AM
unless you are going to be riding in city traffic(less than 40 mph) for more than 75% of the time, you wouldnt need it.
i usually only shift into 6th past 80. else its riding 5th.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: duccarlos on January 30, 2012, 12:18:18 PM
The dealer at the shop recommended I keep the stock sprocket a little longer and see if I still want to change it after 1000 miles. Seems like I'm getting used to it but it's still a bit annoying in traffic. Thanks for the advice guys! Now that I can rev her higher maybe I can stay in 1st gear when riding in 10 mph traffic

Was this Forza or Ducati Miami? This is very important in my reply.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sebastienb on February 01, 2012, 05:34:55 PM
Was this Forza or Ducati Miami? This is very important in my reply.

Forza, asked Jorge for his advice. I live close to Unique Superbike I'm goignt to see if they have the sproket and how much for them to put it otherwise i'll do it next time i go up to pompano at forza


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: duccarlos on February 02, 2012, 08:07:29 AM
Forza, asked Jorge for his advice. I live close to Unique Superbike I'm goignt to see if they have the sproket and how much for them to put it otherwise i'll do it next time i go up to pompano at forza

Talk to Charlie or Steve. Lucho if you can catch him in the front. I don't know Jorge, unless you're referring to George. The only reason they could give is that the 14t might put additional strain on the chain, but it's so minimal that it's a waste of breathe.


Title: Re: Going in for my first maintenance (640 miles) tomorrow 2011 796
Post by: sebastienb on February 11, 2012, 05:14:30 PM
Sorry I meant George, Lucho is the one who did the service for me. I keep wanting to put it more and more so  getting it as soon as I can


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