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Title: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Link on February 03, 2012, 11:19:07 AM I think it's about time for a new clutch and was wondering what others have used (bike is a 2009 696). The stock clutch was OK but the super light pull & the on/off feel at the lever I never really liked and if it wasn't adjusted perfect it seemed to slip at high RPM's. So I was wondering if there's any after market plates/springs/basket that would be an improvement over stock.
Thanks Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Slide Panda on February 03, 2012, 11:35:16 AM How many miles are on that clutch? Changing out an 09 seems very early to me, but age can have very little relation to usage.
Swapping parts on that bike are not as simple as you might think. It's got the APTC clutch - not a full slipper, but not a plain basket and hub set up either. While you can swap plates as with any clutch you might open a can of worms with different springs. But, I'm not an expert on those clutches so I'll differ to someone else of the effects of different springs. The light pull and small engagement zone are characteristics of the ATPC - that's been the case since they appeared on the Monsters. Though it wouldn't change the pull weight you could swap to an adjustable lever to allow you to adjust the engagement zone. Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: rule62 on February 03, 2012, 12:03:57 PM A few of us have gotten rid of the APTC and swapped for a standard wet clutch. I'm pretty sure any wet clutch from an 800cc or smaller duc will bolt right on. Better clutch feel, stronger engagement (IMHO), and lower cost replacement packs.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28528.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28528.0) Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Raux on February 03, 2012, 12:09:03 PM word is that EVR is making true slippers for the small case motors this year.
Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Slide Panda on February 03, 2012, 12:12:40 PM A few of us have gotten rid of the APTC and swapped for a standard wet clutch. I'm pretty sure any wet clutch from an 800cc or smaller duc will bolt right on. Better clutch feel, stronger engagement (IMHO), and lower cost replacement packs. http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28528.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28528.0) But this is a new gen monster - do the wet clutches cross the generations? Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Raux on February 03, 2012, 12:15:25 PM all small case motor clutches as far as I know
600/620/695/750/800/696/796 the wet clutches of the Sport Classic/1100 evo/848 are different. Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Link on February 03, 2012, 02:03:49 PM How many miles are on that clutch? Changing out an 09 seems very early to me, but age can have very little relation to usage. Swapping parts on that bike are not as simple as you might think. It's got the APTC clutch - not a full slipper, but not a plain basket and hub set up either. While you can swap plates as with any clutch you might open a can of worms with different springs. But, I'm not an expert on those clutches so I'll differ to someone else of the effects of different springs. The light pull and small engagement zone are characteristics of the ATPC - that's been the case since they appeared on the Monsters. Though it wouldn't change the pull weight you could swap to an adjustable lever to allow you to adjust the engagement zone. Bike has about 6.5K miles on it & it's the GF bike I think she was hard on it for the 1st 2K-3K miles. Did not know about APTC man I would have never thought that was a slipper ! I need to ride it again, the times I've ridden it and downshifted without matching revs the rear locks up pronto. Maybe theres more then just wear wrong with the clutch ? I'll check EVR out & if price is OK I may go that way or go to the wet clutch swap. I'll stay away from trying different springs due to what you said. Is that ATPC supposed to act like a slipper, does yours work well ? The slipper clutches I'm used too would allow me to drop 2 gears, dump the clutch & pretty much no drama from rear. Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Speeddog on February 03, 2012, 05:03:02 PM I've got a set of Barnett frictions and steels for an APTC clutch, in a bag on my shelf.
They don't slip under load, but you'll play hell finding neutral when you're stopped. >:( Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: kopfjäger on February 03, 2012, 06:45:07 PM Bike has about 6.5K miles on it & it's the GF bike I think she was hard on it for the 1st 2K-3K miles. Did not know about APTC man I would have never thought that was a slipper ! I need to ride it again, the times I've ridden it and downshifted without matching revs the rear locks up pronto. Maybe theres more then just wear wrong with the clutch ? I'll check EVR out & if price is OK I may go that way or go to the wet clutch swap. I'll stay away from trying different springs due to what you said. Is that ATPC supposed to act like a slipper, does yours work well ? The slipper clutches I'm used too would allow me to drop 2 gears, dump the clutch & pretty much no drama from rear. APTC is not a slipper clutch. Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Link on February 03, 2012, 07:04:31 PM APTC is not a slipper clutch. What I thought.....But what is an APTC clutch ? Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: kopfjäger on February 03, 2012, 08:19:13 PM What I thought.....But what is an APTC clutch ? Adler Power Torque Clutch Title: Re: 696 clutch options/opinions Post by: Raux on February 03, 2012, 10:25:00 PM It has some of the xharacteristicsbof a slipper but not the full capabilities of one
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