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Title: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ryandalling on February 04, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
Anybody have first hand knowledge of sidecar riding, how it differs, what to worry about.... and the big one... actual cool photos?  I am thinking of getting out of the 999 and into something like a URAL sidecar... although I have seen a lot in the past.... wondering what actual riders have to say. Thanks!!


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
paging bobspapa to the DMF courtesy phone...

this thread might give you all the answers you're looking for...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.msg994601#msg994601 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.msg994601#msg994601)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: transplant on February 05, 2012, 06:42:22 AM
Anybody have first hand knowledge of sidecar riding, how it differs, what to worry about.... and the big one... actual cool photos?  I am thinking of getting out of the 999 and into something like a URAL sidecar... although I have seen a lot in the past.... wondering what actual riders have to say. Thanks!!


Totally different from riding a bike. You drive a sidecar, not ride it.
Download Hal Kendall's side car manual and sidecar operator's manual. They're the hacker's Bible. They're free on a PDF format .

http://www.sidecar.com/links3.asp (http://www.sidecar.com/links3.asp)

Head over to the ADV Hack section and lurk for a while. There's a lot of info there, even professional hack builders, like C. Stanley and Jay from Dauntless post and give advice.
I don't have any experience with Ural's other than what I read, but from what I understand, they're excellent machines once sorted out, although a bit slow.
If you're handy and like doing the work, you can put a rig together for not a lot of money. Tubs can be picked up for less than $1k and you can pretty much use anything for a tug. I put my rig together for less than $5k.

It's a '91 BMW K75S with a DMC sub-frame and a 560 Velorex frame.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lDKcM4fECUI/Ty6NwuDKZkI/AAAAAAAAA7E/seB85cxUjgA/s640/bike%2526box.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Grampa on February 05, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
paging bobspapa to the DMF courtesy phone...

this thread might give you all the answers you're looking for...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.msg994601#msg994601 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.msg994601#msg994601)

Yeah...... What he/I said.


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: krolik on February 05, 2012, 08:50:24 AM
Get ahold of Elias (Toolfan), he had a side hack for a while. He even used it to haul his trials bike to a ADV meet once. ;D


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Mulletbiker on February 06, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
Shoot me a PM with any specific questions you have & I'll be happy to help.
Had my URAL for 5 years now, bought it mostly to be able to ride in the winter.
But love riding it use it alot around town for errands like grocery shopping.
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/Mulletbiker/halloweenural2010.jpg)

(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/Mulletbiker/URALSNOW3.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Slide Panda on February 06, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
Fly that hack!

Another +1 to ADV. There's a lot of knowledge there.

As you might figure from those photos is a very different skill set. 3 wheels and you steer like a car. Fly the side car and now you're back to counter steering mechanics.


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Grampa on February 06, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
Untitled (http://vimeo.com/35858435)



Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: justinrhenry on February 07, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
I'd love to have a sidecar, but it seems like something that sounds much cooler than it is.  I don't think it would make my girlfriend want to ride anymore than she does now (almost never) and that would ruin the fun of it. 


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Moto Motivo on February 08, 2012, 06:01:37 PM

This is what I am talking about!


(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/Veloce-sa/DucSidecar.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: DucNaked on February 10, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
This is what I am talking about!


You beat me. Just saw that photo.
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac51/rllout/9ac63d6d.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: elyse on February 10, 2012, 03:21:12 PM
thats very cool! .... in cali, if you have a sidecar, you don't need a motorcycle license


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: NorDog on February 12, 2012, 01:18:19 PM
Shoot me a PM with any specific questions you have & I'll be happy to help.
Had my URAL for 5 years now, bought it mostly to be able to ride in the winter.
But love riding it use it alot around town for errands like grocery shopping.
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/Mulletbiker/halloweenural2010.jpg)

(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww29/Mulletbiker/URALSNOW3.jpg)

I've been interested in one of those for some time.  Would love to hear about your experience with it; problems?  joys?  Don't wanna thread jack.  Can you PM me maybe?


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ryandalling on February 14, 2012, 07:07:43 AM
Okay... I am totally getting one... now I just need to find a way to buy it... anybody want a 999?  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: NorDog on February 14, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
Okay... I am totally getting one... now I just need to find a way to buy it... anybody want a 999?  [thumbsup]

Hold on now.  You still need a motorcycle with that sidecar!   [Dolph]


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ian48th on February 19, 2012, 10:27:30 PM
In response to your original questions, riding with a sidecar is very different, but can be quite rewarding.  Grocery shopping is certainly one advantage.  I found, though, that young ladies were much more likely to ask for a ride in the sidecar than on the back of the bike.  That alone makes it worthwhile.  Your mileage may vary...

I wish I still had my sidecar rig.  Not because I want to give young ladies a ride (get your mind out of the gutter), but because it's fun!


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ryandalling on February 21, 2012, 07:57:02 PM
So I totally just got rid of the 999 in exchange for the gobi gear up Ural. Still think I need to get me a 620 or some other monster for when I want to hit the twisties with speed. But that will have to wait.


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Grampa on February 22, 2012, 05:43:02 PM
Black is the new Black

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/003-16.jpg)


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/007-10.jpg)


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/008-16.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Grampa on February 22, 2012, 07:02:09 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/418622_10150578913637005_719462004_9231418_1585294833_n.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ducducgooseme on February 23, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
BP, what is it?  details!

Black is the new Black

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/003-16.jpg)


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/007-10.jpg)


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/bobspapa/008-16.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ducpainter on February 24, 2012, 03:51:36 AM
BP, what is it?  details!

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=53897.0)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: zooom on February 28, 2012, 08:05:05 AM
I just found what is quite possibly the coolest sidecar rig yet!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-z50-sidecar-/170790579233?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item27c3e96c21 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-z50-sidecar-/170790579233?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item27c3e96c21)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Grampa on February 28, 2012, 08:17:32 AM
(http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/verspa_sidecar_vw.jpg)

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lx1NdrI5eW0/TpEr2q0ScEI/AAAAAAABies/PqDz1Cx0Q_s/e54tq3werdfasdwdwd.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: zooom on February 28, 2012, 08:23:58 AM
what is/was that streamliner sidecar thing in Silver/burgundy?


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: zooom on February 28, 2012, 08:28:56 AM
okay...here you go BP

(http://bikeglam.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/22-630x472.jpg)

(http://bikeglam.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/92.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: ryandalling on April 09, 2012, 09:17:51 AM
Well... have had the bike for like 6 weeks now... and it is awesome fun... will have to post some pics...


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: NorDog on April 09, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
(http://www.bikemenu.com/photos/famous/Marx%20Brothers%20motorcycle.jpg)


Title: Re: To sidecar or not to sidecar...
Post by: Le Pirate on April 10, 2012, 05:39:10 AM
Well... have had the bike for like 6 weeks now... and it is awesome fun... will have to post some pics...

SWEET!

Post up some pics and your thoughts on it.


Some day. Some how. I will sidecar  [laugh]


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