Ducati Monster Forum

i've been putting off putting the termis kit on my m695, but after talking to my dealer, they can do it all for me fairly quickly when they do the 600mile service.

I am still trying to justify spending that much, so was hoping to get all the happy stories from some of you about how it was worth it..and some of the benefits.

thanks.;
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I love the sound of the Termis on my 848.  It was tough justifying the price of the system but in the end, I love it [thumbsup]

you can get a serious exhaust system (many kinds) for less $$ & get in several other mods for what the termis will cost. ducati warranty is a factor. from what i've read, the fitment & quality is not what you'd expect for that amount of $$$$$$$.  [coffee]

Best mod I-ve done to the bike. The most important poart of the set up is actually the ECU that just wakes up the bike throughout the entire rev range  ;D

+1.  Made a huge difference on my S2R in power and sound.  The DP ECU is the majority of the cost but is the key to the kit IMO.  Without the ECU they're no different than Zards, Arrows, Sils, Quat-D.  Slip ons are slip ons.

Yes, it's a lot of money, but I can't tell you what a difference the Termi slip-on kit made to my '07 695. It's now the bike it always should have been. Starts better, idles better, has perfect fueling throughout the rpm range, sounds great and runs 40 degrees cooler. The open airbox sounds awesome when you crack the throttle. It'll amaze you. It's the best mod I could have made.

my '05 s2r does all that too. cored stock cans, pcIII & cut off the top off the air box. total cost with custom map $500.

Closed Loop = No pcIII on 07 bikes, or at least a 695...

I'm getting my Termis installed this week, trying for tomorrow.
I heard a lot of great things about them, it's time for me to try it out myself.
I'm looking forward to have in on my 696. I'll give you my review once its on and start growling  [thumbsup]

regards

The Termi's are the shiznit!!! Love 'em! You'll be amazed how much more responsive your bike is and they sound like God pissed off!  [thumbsup]

I love my Termi's.  Looks, sound, and power.  I didn't have any fitment issues.  The quality of my entire system is top notch (but to be fair, there are complaints on this site about recent quality).   No complaints here. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             No warranty.

The difference is night and day on my S4Rs. I don't think I would ride a stock S4Rs now that I have experienced what the full Termi Exhaust w/ DP ECU and Open Airbox has done for the stock bike as far as performance and sound .

Ok, lets put this straight
There is NO other fully working exhaust system than the Termi slip on, ECU, open airbox system for the 695
At least here in Europa you need to meet the EURO 3 norm to run the bike street legal.
All those nice pipes from Arrow, Akrapovic, Sil and what else will NOT work correctly on the 695 without the ECU and the air filter.
I asked to buy the ECU and its around 700 bucks...plus 150 for the Filter.
In the end you will pay more for any other combination than just taking whats approved by DP
Maybe thats a different story for the old 600/620 but its like this for the 695.
So i will bite the bullet and shell out the 1100 for the full system in spring and be happy with it.
Also I like the idea of removable DB killers to not annoy my neighbors in the morning...just in evening ;)

Nope, not true.


So you void the warranty if you put any system on other then a termi?

nah

It sounds ridiculous at first, BUT:

The sound is worth every penny.

Trust me, you'll agree!!  [evil]

If I had to do it again. I would buy the Termi's with DP ECU. Sell the Termi's & buy a full side by side exhaust. Not sure if Termi makes them for my bike ? ! !

if you are having trouble justifying the cost then get used ones. Ebay is your freind.
And remember there are other brands . Termignoni isn the be all and end all.

As long as you only change the cans you dont need an ecu upgrade or a filter.
This goes for any bike and came from the importer of remus and akapovik exhausts.
if you go for an open box or pods then you will need the ecu done.

One main motivator for the upgrade is the DP ECU, supposedly it will help the bike run cooler, which now is an issue, and to help it run richer -  the sound is a big bonus.

I think im going to go for it!!

Now, the dealer says no baffles, how loud is it really? will i need earplugs?

well mine is 600
and has the Remus DP hi levels on it.
The sounds isnt alot louder. But its alot deeper.

Its not ear splitting but i can imagine on a long trip it might get wearing.


Now that the 695 is the old model you might find that dealers heavily discounting the systems.
Ebay seems to always have at least one brand new old stock system for an S4 for about a half the original cost.
so with abit of luck and patience you may get a 695 one alot cheaper.

Most likely, I wear'em. They're pretty damn loud!!  [evil] Then again, my engine is a 916 w/performance cams in it, so the thing sounds like a freakin' cigaratte boat @ idle... Downshifting is the best part IMO, I've been told that the bike sounds like "the apocalypse is coming" as I approach!!   ;D 

Though the 695 probably won't be much quieter.... Termis are just all-around loud, but it's a good loud.

What did you say?

What?

Can you repeat that?

Oh! earplugs?

No you wont need them!vI don't use them  ;)

For the wind-roar at highway speeds:  earplugs  [thumbsup]

For the Termi's on my 695:  no earplugs  ;D

Seriously, though.  They ain't quiet, but they won't destroy your hearing either.  Contingent, of course, on the amount of time you spend at red-line!

termi's and a open air box are something special to be sure, every time I fire my bike up it just makes me grin like a fool.

As I stated above here is the TERMI'S. [thumbsup]
Rode home after install, one word to describe it "AWESOME" ;D
some quick pics:

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(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/l7i7t7o/P6240020.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/l7i7t7o/P6240021.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/l7i7t7o/P6240023.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/l7i7t7o/P6240018.jpg)

[Monty Python Search for the Holy Grail Voice]It's a silly video......
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/th_tats005.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc120/bonfygloria/?action=view&current=tats005.flv)
on second thought .... let's not go there.[/Monty Python Search for the Holy Grail Voice]
Seriously, Mom and I fooling with the Monsters, the both have Termi's on them and they are both 695's. Audio never captures it quite right but it'll give you and idea. The are both chipped with open boxes and filters too. BTW interestingly, mine is a little louder??

my termi story is rather SAD [bang] ...... one stupid car knocked me in the rear & the CF termi broke .... [bang]

&

I have a very happy Arrow story in the end ;D

707 - in winter get those pipes and shields ceramic coated - she'll look mean!

Termis are great - just put on some new old stock - manufactured 4 years ago - fitment was excellent, the carbon finish on the actual pipe isn't great (shields are excellent though??) compared to the german manufactured carbon I'm used to.

Sound is excellent and the engine definetly feels 'free' between 5 and 9k just seems to breeze buy...I redline/limit so much more because it just flies....and I ride conservatively!

Termi's on the 6 series sound like a must have!

enjoy the ride.

running the DP ecu and open airbox. But I'm running "brutale inspired" straight pipes out of the udder. Sounds perfect to me, quite loud. But I ride with earplugs. And the ECU made a world of difference, the S4rs is a real beast now, and it runs perfect. And yes, my warranty is still good  :)

IMO on DP Termi kits, it seems people are very pleased with the change in performance of their bike with the ECU. 

But Ducati is perpetuating the racket but not making the bikes run well without the ECU.  Sure they run ok without it but they run so much better, and cooler with the ECU. 

If you are purchasing the kit for just the sound, there are other options out there even for the 695 that are cheaper.  Although the open air box is a different matter. 

If you're getting it for a performance gain + sound, than I could justify paying the price for the kit. 

If you're buying it to fix running problems, like fixing the lean state, cooing it down, or fixing surging issues,  you should NOT have to pay for this fix.  Ducati should be ahead of the curve on some of these issues rather than lagging slightly behind some of it's direct competitors. 
IMO if ducati fixed fuel mapping problems, and certain heating issues (695) they would end up selling fewer DP Termi kits.  And that means less $$.  So I don't doubt they are working on a fix, but the motivation isn't what it should be. 

DO IT!! I have NO regrets. I went and listened to several systems before taking the plunge. You can go here for some listening pleasure, albeit from a cellphone it should get the hair up on your neck and give you the push you need.  ;D Granted this is a Full 50mm system but you will get the idea...

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/ (http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/hypurone/Monster%20S4RS/)

There are 3 vids with sound. Oh and feel free to check out the BST album in there if you like carbon and to drool on your monitor/keyboard....  [evil]

707 - in winter get those pipes and shields ceramic coated - she'll look mean!

Plus 1 on that. More black on that bike will only improve the looks. The 696 with Termi's on looks good.(side by side Termi's  [thumbsup] ) Sticker removal would be "MY" next mod  ;D

Actually the lean state and the fueling is set up like it is to meet the new Euro emission standards.  Could Ducati change the setup for bikes shipped to the States?  possibly, but that would entail entirely new business and manufacturing processes and neither of those are cheap.

For the surging and stalling from what i've read they've fixed that under warranty for most and if memory serves the issue surrounded the o2 sensor ( again a new piece put in place to meet the Euro standard).

while I don't doubt Monster accessories and add ons are a big piece of their business model I have a heard time reaching your conclusion that they're leaving their bikes as you describe so they can sell more "racing" kits.

While I understand and empathize with the problems around Euro 3 emissions, as a consumer, I don't care why the bike runs lean, just that it does.  From an article I read I got the idea that the Tuono's fuel map is somewhat adjustable without a $1000 ECU.  If this is right why does Ducati have this issue when others don't.  I understand that it's just the electronics and fuel injection system they had chosen.  IMO this is a down side to the beautiful and beautifully handling ducati.

I agree with you that Ducati is not deliberately leaving the bikes as they are to generate more revenue via accessories, BUT, I think that the motivation to fix an issue isn't as great when the dealers can push the kit as a solution to what could be considered a annoying if not troublesome issue. 

And my dealer has shrugged off any concerns I have brought to them about issues around this.  They always point to an ECU as the resolution.  Which is why I'm biased against it.   

On the other hand the Full Termi kit on my bike is probably what I'm going to do just because of what the people on this board say about the performance increases. 

I can attest the increase in performance with the Full Termi Kit. Money well spent, every penny of it.  ;D :)

hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback. I've put my order in, the termis kit (low mount) and a 14T sprocket change are in the works for next week. I was able to haggle a little with my dealer since this is all happening at the 600mile service.

for now, the set up will come baffles out, but if i decide its too loud, is it hard to put back in? will the ecu need re tuning?

thanks, and looking forward to the many expected improvements.

I have only put my baffles back in once, just to see how easy they were to install, and had no issues.  I had to tap them in place and line up the screw holes.  In my opinion, once you ride without them, you won't want them back in.  As far as I know, they shouldn't affect the ECU. 

Hope you like them as much as I do mine.