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Thinking of opening it up. I have the Termi slip ons, ECU and open air box. My dealer told me they normally adjust after this mod. Why/what?

Quality, looks, sound, fit - any experiences?

i have the spareshack II (marving) mid pipe on my '05 s2r. fitment & appearance are perfect. eliminates the beehive & if you have some form of slip-on or cored can, as i do, it is quite loud. adjustments should be made after all has been done to the air intake & exhaust, as this is "the air pump". i have the open air box, cored stock cans & a pc III with custom map.   spark, also get great reviews. i don't know how compatable they are with all slip=ons.  [moto]

I have the spark full system. Spark midpipes should be compatible with any slip ons that fit onto the stock exhaust because they are supposed to have the same exits. One thing to note if you go this route is to make sure to tell chris at desmoworld if you have an o2 sensor or not. I believe he was under the impression that 06 S2R 800's had no o2 sensor but 07 S2R 800's did, so I recieved an o2 sensor'd pipe. No big deal, I just plugged the bung. It's a little odd I think some euro 07 S2R 800's did have the o2 sensor so that is where the confusion comes in. Anyways my pipe is great and is a great deal lighter and sexier than that huge udder. Would buy again  [thumbsup]

I have the same bike ('07 S2R800).   I went less aggressive on upgrading the exhaust so I kept the stock cans and replaced the cat with the Marving headpipe.  Sounds a bit better but I don't notice a performance upgrade or decrease and really didn't expect any.  I did ceramic coat the Marving headpipe, S-pipes and heel guards. I like the way it turned out.  Side note: new mirrors on order.  [thumbsup]

(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/hay13pics/IMG_2274.jpg)

I have had Zards and my current set up, Ducati Performance mid pipe and Termignoni race slip ons.

I like the Ducati Performance midpipe.  It doesn't reuse any of the stock exhaust like a lot of other mid pipes do.
Ducati part number 979A00108

(http://www.mikemo.org/bikes/TermiDuc2.jpg)

Do you need to remove that midpipe to do a proper oil change? If so, i would say that is a 'con'. I like that pipes' esthetics.

I have the Spark midpipe on my '06 S2R. I do not have an O2 sensor, but my pipe (as i thought all of them did) came with the O2 bung, which is useful/necessary for proper tuning.
Spark pipe fits well and was an easy install. At the time i believe it was the cheapest midpipe...Pro
However, i think this pipe hangs too low, away from the engine a good few inches, and doesn't look as nice as some other pipes...Con.
i will try to upload a pic

I have the Spark midpipe, and IMHO, it's much better looking than the longer DP unit.  The DP pipe makes the lower engine look very long, which I didn't lilke.

Don't be misled by the pics on desmoworld of their pipe, though.  They now sell the Spark midpipe with a "satin" finish, not the high polished finish you see online.  This isn't a big deal for some, just FYI.  If you're picky, they have tooling marks over most of the pipe.

As far as I believe, the DP may have a bigger diameter, the Spark is 43mm.  Both will fit up to any double exhaust slip-one you choose to complete your system.

Spark midpipe here also. :)  It fit up perfect.  It has a nice satin finish.  Still have stock cans (but looking for Spark) no tuning changes needed.  Also, out of the way when doing oil changes.
Best of all it sounds good too.  ;D

I love those cans and I'm pissed I didn't know about them when I purchased my bike  [thumbsup]

Spark is moving fast towards the top of the list. It is specific for the '07 - maybe because of the O2 sensor or some other changes I didn't know about. Price is half that of the DP pipes and from what you guys say - more or less the same functionality. Thanks for helping out [thumbsup]

I haven't done an oil change yet. (kind of waiting for the black amsoil filter)  I know you can get the filter off fine.  I believe another member said it is possible to remove the mesh screen to.  The one you are supposed to clean every other oil change.  I'll find out soon enough.


Also there is a spot for the O2 sensor on the front pipe.  Unfortunately there is no spot to hook up on the rear pipe.  My shop had to have one added so they could do my custom advance map for my Power Commander III.

The spark pipe used to be the no brainer recommendation up until the past year.  In the past year 1. the DP no longer covers the oil filter and 2 dropped in price AND the spark pipe started showing up with sloppy welds etc.  Search TOB and some of these will come up. 

Chris has always been good to me so I'm not bashing just an FYI.

Cheers

P.S.  I like both and saw it as a win-win.  I ended up with the DP over the Spark because due to the conversion rate it was $150 USD cheaper than the Spark.  It fits perfectly and improved performance and sound.  It DID require the DP ECU to be adjusted.

Spark from MonsterParts paid, shipped + local VAT 25% comes to about $500. My dealer wants $940 for the DP pipes. Now, THAT'S a no brainer IMO.
I will close my eyes for possible "sloppy welds etc" and hope for the best.

I see your mods are coming along quite nicely  [thumbsup] If you're not able to get new mirrors by autumn I'm sure there is some foundation that will grant you another set. Maybe Disney has something to make up for the emotional damage their inspiration has brought upon the whole Monster community ???

Quat-D also makes one, I have it on my '06 S2R800. Uses the stock header pipes. Looks right, I had mine ceramic coated black. Has a removeable baffle at the crossover junction, and an O2 bung. Simple to install, fits perfectly. At the time I bought it from Motowheels, it was the cheapest. With cored stock cans it's quite loud, I'm getting some uncored stock cans to bring down the noise a bit.

 [evil] No no no no, please no  ;)

LOL.  Funny what the exchange rate does.  For us here in the US the Spark from desmoworld costs approx 540.00 USD shipped.  The DP pipe was 400 USD installed for me.  That's about the same as the Marving pipe Jeff has listed on his site.

FWIW, I didn't see the Spark pipe listed on his site. Does he also sell the Spark pipe as a special order or unlisted item?

As far as the Spark welds.  The original ones were so good it was like artwork.  The ones I saw on TOB weren't as good but still nice.  Either way it should run the same and who the hell is on their belly inspecting that anyway?!?

Enjoy the ride.

Jeff had it in stock. I got the impression it wasn't a special order.

I thought you could only get spark products from desmoworld too.... just looked at jeff's site... there is this exact pipe and nothing else from spark listed.... hmm.

I agree the DP midpipes look great.
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On those pipes (the DP midpipe on Heath's bike - I'll call them DP midpipe version 2.0), Ducati fixed the oil drain plug clearance problem on the DP midpipe version 1.0. 

The oil drain plug is on the bottom of the engine just left of center.  The midpipe on Heath's bike doesn't appear to even go under the engine at all.  I would venture to say that there are no "oil change" issues like on my (version 1.0) midpipe.  I should have waited.   [bang]

You can see in this pic of my bike a couple of differences.
1)  midpipe 1.0 uses the stock exhaust flange from the horizontal cylinder, unlike version 2.0
2)  midpipe 1.0 goes on the left side of the oil filter, under then back across the bottom of the engine.  This route blocks the oil drain plug.

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And as I am learning, they have created a belly pan problem.  Problem for me at least.  I am about to take a coping saw to a very expensive piece of carbon. 

Sparks are on the bike  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Wow, what a difference - I didn't expect much since I heard a friends bike with the DP pipes. My impression is that the Sparks are quite a bit louder and much more aggressive. I did it mostly for the looks, but the sound improvement is amazing. The fit was perfect and straight forward, no issues except that the small forward header piece doesn't look to good after the first few hours ride - spotted. I will try to polish it and see how it might change after a few longer rides.

A good mod day today [wine]