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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Skyshadow on February 29, 2012, 12:47:16 PM

Title: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on February 29, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
Pretty self explanatory, the part with the arrow and question mark.  [laugh] I think they are ugly, not to mention the boxes, all the tubing, metal spring and filters add weight.  ;D I want to dump them, what happens if i do? This is drawing #16 on pages 36 and 37 of the manual. I want to remove parts #8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/huffster_2007/IMAG0722.jpg)
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: AdmiralKit on February 29, 2012, 01:27:23 PM
Yes, these can be removed.  These are just breather boxes for the carbs.  I don't remember what I did with the hoses on mine, but note that they have small in-line filters to keep the carbs from sucking in particulate matter.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on February 29, 2012, 02:30:55 PM
So can I cap the leads out of the carbs for these lines going to the boxes and be ok? Or do i have to leave the lines and filters? Curious why it has to breath, is it a idling thing?
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: AdmiralKit on February 29, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
I wouldn't cap them - since they're breather tubes, someone decided that air needed to be able to flow in and out.  Without actually playing around with them, I imagine that you're looking at something like the float bowls needing to adjust pressure as the fuel levels fluctuate up and down internally, but I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on February 29, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
I am the same, I'm unsure what happens if they are not allowed to breath. Makes me wish someone like Chris Kelley from CA-Cycleworks or DuckStew would chime in with their knowledge.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Ddan on February 29, 2012, 05:20:12 PM
You can't cap the tubes but you can remove the pods.  You have to make sure the ends of the tubes are in still air or the carb slides won't work correctly
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Howley on February 29, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Yeah they need to be in still air. I routed mine up between the battery and the airbox, under the coils.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on March 01, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
Sweet, thanks guys
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: pslinux on March 02, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Here's a nice step-by-step to look at too.

http://www.ducatisuite.com/pods.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/pods.html)
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 02, 2012, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: pslinux on March 02, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Here's a nice step-by-step to look at too.

http://www.ducatisuite.com/pods.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/pods.html)
And here too: http://www.ducatisuite.com/emissions.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/emissions.html) get rid of the black box under the seat and replace it with a filter ($10 from advance auto parts).

If you haven't done it already, you should also get the Factory Pro jet kit for you bike. Around $100 from ca-cycleworks.com but worth it!
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on March 02, 2012, 11:42:04 AM
Gnarly, Thanks guys. DucatiSuite is awesome. I'm planning on getting a Factory Pro kit but I had questions about it and I'm waiting on the answer. Simple question really, is the Factory Pro jet kit like a built it yourself kit cause it isn't labelled stage 1 or 2 like the dynojet...
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 05, 2012, 07:27:15 AM
These are pretty much the steps you'll need to follow
- drain gas from the carbs and get them off the bike
- take apart the carbs, following the included instructions
- swap parts
- check/adjust float height
- re-assemble.
-  [thumbsup]  [beer] [beer] [beer]
that's all there is to it really.

two things you really need to watch for are:
1. work in a well vented area so you don't breath too many fumes
2. watch for the small bits and be gentle (don't over torque things).
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on March 05, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
Haa, Awesome thanks. I know how to put jets in, is that all it is? And any idea what size jets?
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on March 06, 2012, 05:51:12 AM
Quote from: Skyshadow on March 05, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
Haa, Awesome thanks. I know how to put jets in, is that all it is? And any idea what size jets?
I don't remember the size, but the jets are included in the kit: everything but the tools is included.

Oh, and be careful with the rubber gaskets and o-rings, they're (relatively) easy to pinch! And then it's  [bang] [bang] [bang]


[edit]This is what the kit looks like: needles, jets, springs...
(http://www.factorypro.com/images/carbkits/crb-10-pichard.jpg)
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on March 06, 2012, 04:15:28 PM
^ COOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on April 04, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
Took off the eye sores yesterday and installed the Factory Pro kit and pod filters. will post up pics later, runs great now! But I have a high idle.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: brad black on April 05, 2012, 01:33:00 AM
the hoses with springs are the air supply for the choke valves.  the hose going to the lh box is a vent.  you need to make sure the end of the vent is in a dead air area.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: pslinux on April 05, 2012, 05:44:20 AM
After you get your hoses routed correctly try adjusting the idle speed screw on the front of the carb.  And with those pod filters it will be easy to get to, just do it while the bike is running to set the idle where you want it.
Title: Re: Can I take these off?
Post by: Skyshadow on April 05, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
Hoses are routed to the battery area so it's pretty still air for a naked monster. will attack the idler screw tonight.