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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Twizted on March 13, 2012, 01:27:50 AM

Title: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Twizted on March 13, 2012, 01:27:50 AM
Bike - 2003 Monster 1000ie Dark

I am buying a set of ST4 forks to replace my non adjustable Marzocchi forks. The set has the ST4 top and bottom triple so my question is if I keep the top triple from the ST4 on them will I be able to install the ST clip ons without any issues?
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: ducpainter on March 13, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
The offset on the ST triples might not be the same as the Monster lower.
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Speeddog on March 13, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
ST4 and S4 have same upper triple - 341.1.028.1A
So the offset is compatible with your M1k.

Honestly, the ST4 'clip-ons' aren't all that great.  :-\
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Twizted on March 14, 2012, 01:13:13 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on March 13, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
ST4 and S4 have same upper triple - 341.1.028.1A
So the offset is compatible with your M1k.

Honestly, the ST4 'clip-ons' aren't all that great.  :-\

Thanks for the info. I know but I figure that the ST4 clip ons will be similar in height to the Monster Bars. This will save me having to fork out money for a new triple and some tall boys. I can use that money buying a rear shock instead.

Would a ST4 shock or S4 rear Sachs be much of an upgrade over the Sachs in my dark model and are they bolt in no hassles?
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Speeddog on March 14, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
If the ST bars are too low, there are spacers available that fit between the bars and the triple.

The S4 shock is an improvement, and is a direct bolt in.

Pretty sure the ST4 shock would bolt in as well, but I haven't done that.
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: zooom on March 14, 2012, 12:22:53 PM
an ST4 shock should bolt right in and have enough damping and preload adjustment for almost anything that Monster is asked to do...
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Twizted on March 14, 2012, 12:45:48 PM
Which one is better? The S4 has the piggy back reservoir ans ST remote. Any differences?
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Speeddog on March 14, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Parts catalogue shows ST4 shock as a piggyback, appearing to have a cam-style preload collar.

ST4s has Ohlins with remote reservoir and remote hydraulic preload.
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Desmo Demon on March 14, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on March 13, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
Honestly, the ST4 'clip-ons' aren't all that great.  :-\
I agree. To me, they are too far out, roll toward the front of the bike too far, and the angle is just not a good position. They remind me a lot of the handlebars on a buddy's 2001 Harley Davidson Dyna Superglide.

On my ST2, I installed Helibar adaptors with SBK clip-ons. The angle of the SBK clip-ons is a much more natural position and angle for my wrists. They also angle them more downward and inward. I have been casually watching for a good deal on some used Helibar adaptors so I can do the same conversion to my wife's ST2.
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Twizted on March 14, 2012, 11:08:38 PM
Cheers for the info guys.   [thumbsup] I'll give the ST clip ons a try if I don't like them I can always get other clip ons.

The ST shock I am looking at is a Showa and has a remote reservoir

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190625474110?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190625474110?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Speeddog on March 15, 2012, 09:08:19 AM
That shock was originally on an ST2.

Not that it matters much... :P

I spent some time on an ST2, and the shock was pretty good.
Title: Re: ST clip ons fit a Monster?
Post by: Twizted on March 15, 2012, 08:44:07 PM
Thanks for all the help. I went with the ST Showa. I am about 220 lbs so hopefully I won't have to respring it.