Ducati Monster Forum

I just received some 50mm woodcraft clip-ons for my Ducati monster, and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with installation of clip-ons in general, obviously for monsters would be preferable, but I'll take any kind of feedback on this. Is it difficult? Do you have to be tech savvy or just follow instructions? How long does it generally take? Thanks.

I'm no expert but it was easy for me.  I mounted mine below the tripple and it took about 20 minutes.  The only thing that I had to do different was turn the clutch and brake line a little because they would have hit the fork otherwise.  Just take your time and make sure all the pinch bolts are tight. Good luck.  Jason

I had my clip ons below my top triple too but I had to flip my throttle cables over to get the right arc so as not to bind causing the throttle to not release correctly. I had them above the triple before that but you have to be really careful. You have to raise the fork legs in the clamps to facilitate that and steering gets real twitchy as a result.

It could take a few minutes if the triple comes right off and all the lines/wires fit nicely, or it could take hours of wrestling things around in a trial and error style to get them to fit right.

You will most likely need these for your master cylinders.
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ADAP/Clutch-Brakes/ADAP.html)

To do this right;
I would also recommend having a set of brake lines made, as it gets kind of crowded when you lower your master cylinders and everything gets jammed behind the headlight.
Have you considered what mirrors you will be using?

Good luck. Post pictures when you're done.

This is all bike specific stuff. I've seen guys that need brake lines, and guys that have a mile of extra brake line. I would try before you go and buy lines.
Also, the spacers would apply if you have a bike with "coffin" style master cylinders.

it does take a bit of wrestling around, but it should all work out. just make sure nothing binds when you go from lock-to-lock

How do I raise the triple clamp? And why do I need to drill holes in the new handle-bars?

you need to drill holes for the Left and Right control switches...or you can just shave the little pins off and don't need to drill holes

You still need one hole in the right side for the throttle pin.

Okay, now I see the purpose for drilling the holes, however, today's attempt to install the clip-ons was disastrous. I managed to disassemble everything, which was a breeze, then when it came to installing the clip-ons it got complicated. I couldn't get the brackets around the forks because of the top triple clamp, so I tried moving the forks down to have more clearance. It all seemed like it would come together, but the headlight was getting in the way. So I'm lost now. Please help me!!!!! Thanks.

When I did mine, I had to take the brake calipers off due to the amount of travel I needed in the forks to clear, otherwise the brake lines would pull. Also, just undo the headlight and disconnect it. Tha's an easy one.

What are you talking about, lowering forks? All you need to do is remove the top triple...

IME, lowering the forks is easier than removing the top triple...

lowering the forks causes alignment issues if you dont know what you are doing.

top triple is 3 bolts and a mallet to slide it up

exactly. and two of those bolts you have to loosen to lower the forks anyway.

seriously.
if i can SWAP forks on a bike, ANYONE can lower them a couple centimeters. It's CAKE.

I called a ducati shop and they told me that the top triple can come off, but it is not meant to be moved up or down. So, I then decided to lower the forks, evenly of course, and that seemed much easier. But i didn't have a motorcycle stand to take pressure off the front wheel, but i managed to lower one of the forks, however, that still wasn't enough clearance to clip-on one of the brackets. I then realized that the headlight was in the way, but i was out of time so i'll try the installation next time. Could someone, who has a 2012 ducati monster 1100evo or something really similar, take me step-by-step on how you installed woodcraft 50mm clip-ons. Thanks. 

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reread your original

You don have to remove slide or change anything for woodcraft
their brackets are two pieces and fit on the forks under the top triple. if you want then taller get the ones with the risers

put your forks bak to stock positions. breath. start over

^^^ hehe...yeah take a breath

correct me if i'm wrong...there are two type of woodcraft clip on right?  one with two brackets that we don't have to remove the forks to install.  Which one does the OP have?

never seen a one piece woodcraft clipon.

(http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/Assets/Images/clipons_right.jpg)

their brackets are all 2 piece

whether they have a riser or not is the only change

(http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/Assets/Images/clipons_bottom.jpg)

but with or without riser, there's no need to change anything on the bike as far as the forks or triple as long as you put them under the triple.

NOW, if you are trying to put the no rise above the triple. you'll have to pull the forks through the triples enough for the clamp to mount.

Okay, I get it. So I don't have to adjust anything! But I still have to move the headlight up or forward because when I try to install the clip-ons there isn't enough clearance for them.

Get this

http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/us/desmoworld-m696-796-1100-headlight-relocator.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/us/desmoworld-m696-796-1100-headlight-relocator.html)

(http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/265x265/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/d/h/dhrl_1_1.jpg)

Damn man, is that part really necessary? Does anyone know how to adjust the headlight with out having to but more crap?

Honestly i will have to defer that to ungeheuer as i dont have stock light

It's easy.  I had issues with routing the brake/clutch lines due to the stock line fittings as the fit was close to my headlight bracket, but I ended up swapping them with aftermarket lines and they worked out fine.  Here is a pic of the bike with the headlight and the brake side mount bracket removed.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/16940630/261917991.jpg)

Here is another so you can see how close the clutch line is to the bracket on that side still in place.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/16940630/261917993.jpg)

And one in action.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/16940630/263466054.jpg)

It was one of my favorite mods, completely changed the feel of the bike.

The new bikes headlight aren't mounted like yours. It hooks into tabs that are attached to the top triple. And a couple of rubber mounts on the bottem.

There is no adjustment for the headlight housing. He could fab something up, but the bracket Raux suggested would probably be easier for him. It's not rocket science.... Stop dicking around and start taking shit off the bike to see how it works!

 [thumbsup] nuff said...but very good info for me just to know how the newer ones work.

Whoa whoa, don't get mad about it. I thought the purpose of a forum was to
Aid your fellow peeps dude. I'm just trying to obtain as much info as possible as to
How to do this correctly, and not mess anything up, in the process, that I
Might regret. Thanks for your input though.

Don't take him so serious. It really was meant as a lighthearted comment to get you out inot the garage and start tinkering...

This  [thumbsup]

You may want to go out and buy a small tube of anti seize as well to use on each bolt.  Ask me how I know....

You shouldn't have to raise or lower your forks at all.  I fabbed up a new headlight bracket for mine just to get rid of the u-bracket (I don't know what model bike you have) but other than that it's just a case of hiding wiring and getting the brake/clutch lines to agree. 

Can you elaborate on this? pics? PM. thanks.

I'm sorry for going off topics here

This is my biggest dilemma right now....to add clip-ons or not... ???

Alright you guys, so I explored my bike a bit more and removed the headlight to install the clip-ons, which went great. Then I drilled the holes in the handle bars and re-attached the grips, electronics etc. But now I've hit another bump in the road. I re-attached the headlight which was just a mount on tipoff some bushings and I had to zip tie the bottom for now. I tried out the new handlebars and they look gret, but the ergonomics suck and I think the handle bars are to close to the tank so my turn ratio sucks. I can't rotate them outward because of the damn headlight!!! Any ideas as to what's I should do, obviously I have to adjust the headlight so I have more room for the rotation of the clip-ons, but any ideas on how to go about this???
I'll post pics up too.

again you'll need to get the spacer that Desmoworld makes or make one yourself. In reality it's only those two metal spacers that your push the top of the light through.

if you're using the zero rise, yes, you'll get less turning radius. the 3" risers will fall into the tank intakes just like stock bars so you'll get close to stock turning radius. AND maybe not have the issue with the light.

Yeah, i'll probably make my own. And i have the clip-ons with no risers, which i didnt even consider when i purchased them. But if i can at least widend the bars out a bit more, it'll surely be a lot better than how i currently have them. thanks.

Another question, do I even have to clip-on the brackets under the triple or can I do
It on top of it?

With stock forks and triple you may not have enough fork peaking above the triple to mount the clipons. but with some adjustments it can be done.  but then you are getting into changing your geometry.

Here they are, pre-powder.  I had to do a ton of grinding as I only have a little flux core welder that tends to make a mess, but they look pretty good with enough paint to fill in all my make the beast with two backs ups.  You can see in the second pic that they sit right below where the clipons mount (my clip ons are set directly below the upper triple).  The gauges are rubber mounted directly under the triple with about $5 in fasteners from Ace.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/Jervisaurus/DSC01768.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/Jervisaurus/DSC01760.jpg)

Are those folk clamps from bellisimoto? those CNC ones?  if not which one did you use?  thanks.

Do clip-on turn radius just suck in general?

I can (mostly) do the learner rider skills test U-turn on my monster with clipons, but yes, the turning radius is reduced from stock.

I cut rings out of 2" car exhaust and welded all the fasteners I needed.  It was all from scratch and overall a huge pain in the ass, but I think they look good. 

As far as your clip on dilemma goes, you're definitely going to need those spacers with the coffin reservoirs, but they're pretty cheap and easy to install.  I don't know if I had to deal with headlight clearance issues because I built my own brackets.  What part of the clip ons are interfering with the headlight?

I think the turning radius never really bothered me as this was my first bike.  Whenever I ride someone else's bike I'm normally astounded at how easy it is to do low speed turns, but it is what it is.  I'm not getting rid of the bike anytime soon so it's tolerable.  On that note, have you checked your tank for any expansion?  Once I got my new one from Ducati I "earned" a bit more clearance from the bars.