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Title: US Bike Laws
Post by: He Man on April 12, 2012, 07:14:44 AM
found this neat site that lets you look up specific statues for your specific state. i double checked all the ones ive been ticketed for and the numbers all line up, so on my end its atleast correct for the ones ive offended.

http://www.cmsnl.com/community/misc/law.php? (http://www.cmsnl.com/community/misc/law.php?)


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: bdub on April 12, 2012, 07:55:12 AM
That's pretty cool. VA has no noise criteria.
Thanks for the link


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Moto Motivo on April 12, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
Thanks, great info.

No turn signals or noise restrictions for NC [thumbsup]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Slide Panda on April 12, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
Be sure to check the details on local regs. VA lists no signals as well - but there's a catch. If they are on the bike they must function and be a full set. All or nothing, but not inbetween


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: HotIce on April 12, 2012, 10:22:33 AM
CA has 80db noise restriction at 50ft?!?
At which RPM?  ;D

An 110db noise at 2ft, seems to decay to ~80db at 50ft:

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distance.htm (http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distance.htm)



Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Slide Panda on April 12, 2012, 10:40:22 AM

At which RPM?  ;D

All  >:(


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: ducatiz on April 12, 2012, 11:00:23 AM
No lane splitting laws:

arkansas
delaware
california
Idaho
Kentucky
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Ohio
Texas
W. Virginia
Wisconsin

 :o


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Slide Panda on April 12, 2012, 11:12:42 AM
So counselor - in the absence of a law to the contrary - can one lane split in the above?



Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Cloner on April 12, 2012, 11:33:27 AM
CA has 80db noise restriction at 50ft?!?
At which RPM?  ;D

An 110db noise at 2ft, seems to decay to ~80db at 50ft:

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distance.htm (http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distance.htm)



6 db per doubling distance for as far as you want to walk!

110 at 2, 104 at 4, 98 at 8, 92 at 16, 86 at 32, 80 at 64 feet.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: ducatiz on April 12, 2012, 11:35:31 AM
So counselor - in the absence of a law to the contrary - can one lane split in the above?



Yes, but that doesn't mean you won't be hassled.  Note that many of the states don't have a "lane splitting" law, they have a law that says "Someone splitting lanes shall be charged with reckless driving" etc.

But all the ones I listed are completely silent on the matter.

If you get a ticket for something in one of those locales, I'd be interested to see what they write and how they justify it.  Most likely, you'd get Reckless or something similar, but it will likely be fact dependent on whether it sticks.

If you're passing in the same lane at 80 mph, it will likely stick but if you are filtering to the front while the cars are at a dead stop, then I think you have a chance to argue that it was not reckless at all. 


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Slide Panda on April 12, 2012, 12:18:29 PM
Interesting. Not that I'm planning to test the boundaries and head to WV to do some lane splitting infront of the local constabulary -  but it's interesting to learn these things.

The whole discussion a while back about the dude who got pulled over for speeding then it blew up into an (illegal from the LEO) side set of wire tapping charges was fascinating.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Goat_Herder on April 12, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Very good info, HeMan.  There are some laws that I am not aware of for my state.  Good to read up on them.  :)


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: zarn02 on April 12, 2012, 12:59:08 PM
Kansas allegedly has "random" periodic safety inspections.

I think in this context "random" means "pretty much never, unless things are falling off your bike as you ride past the police station, and an officer feels motivated enough to do something about it."

Because I've never heard of anyone having their vehicle inspected, randomly or not.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: timeforpoptarts on April 12, 2012, 01:06:35 PM
No lane splitting laws:

arkansas
delaware
california
Idaho
Kentucky
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Ohio
Texas
W. Virginia
Wisconsin

 :o
Virginia, too? :)


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 12, 2012, 01:34:51 PM
I checked CA. Not accurate.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Cicero on April 12, 2012, 02:09:42 PM
I checked CA. Not accurate.

In regards to filtering, or overall?


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: ducatiz on April 12, 2012, 02:35:33 PM
Virginia, too? :)

nope


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Slide Panda on April 12, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
VA just introduced a law that allows bikes to share a lane. Prior to that one could have gotten a ticket for pulling along side a buddy at a red light.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Curmudgeon on April 12, 2012, 06:26:52 PM
Passed, but not effective until 7/01/12. Trikes need not apply.  8) The other bill which passed prohibits "motorcycle only" police checkpoints.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 12, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
In regards to filtering, or overall?


Multiple items.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Mhanis on April 13, 2012, 06:37:37 AM
Multiple items.

Could you be a LITTLE more specific?




Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Narflar on April 13, 2012, 07:29:48 AM
Virginia, too? :)

Virginia says it's illegal to share a lane with another vehicle.  So that means no lane splitting.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 13, 2012, 07:43:38 AM
Could you be a LITTLE more specific?


I looked through the CA section and several items were inaccurate. I stopped at that point. So don't rely on that website to answer CA specific questions.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: ducatiz on April 13, 2012, 07:58:16 AM
I looked through the CA section and several items were inaccurate. I stopped at that point. So don't rely on that website to answer CA specific questions.

could you be so magnanimous as to provide a single example?

everything i could find for the states i'm in lined up.  and it looks like they just copied the AMA website's info for the same thing and put it into an app.. they copied the subject names too.

http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/asp/legisltn/laws.asp (http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/asp/legisltn/laws.asp)


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: kopfjäger on April 13, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
could you be so magnanimous as to provide a single example?

 [popcorn]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: Scotzman on April 13, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
^  [popcorn]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 13, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Generally it's correct. There are minor points that are not explained enough like the earplugs. It's not "no restrictions". There are specific restrictions. Same with the handlebars, turn signals, etc. Basically ok but if you have a specific issue it's better go read the code.

And to krapstirrer...it would be a pity if you chocked on your popcorn.



Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: kopfjäger on April 13, 2012, 08:53:51 PM
Earplugs  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [bang]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 13, 2012, 08:55:45 PM
Earplugs  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [bang]

Easy to amuse the simple minded.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: kopfjäger on April 13, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
Easy to amuse the simple minded.

That the best you got officer.  [roll]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: hbliam on April 13, 2012, 09:02:07 PM
That the best you got officer.  [roll]

As opposed to your eloquent string of smilies? I got an idea. How about you drop your cyber stalker routine and move on.


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: kopfjäger on April 13, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
As opposed to your eloquent string of smilies? I got an idea. How about you drop your cyber stalker routine and move on.

Earplugs and handlebars.   [laugh] [bang]


Title: Re: US Bike Laws
Post by: ducpainter on April 14, 2012, 02:27:27 AM
Knock it off...


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