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Title: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: crazykyy on April 22, 2012, 05:37:06 PM
Hey folks!

Sorry for the delay in getting this up!  All sorts of things have been happening recently :O  I have just about completed my thesis, I've been teaching classes at my university, I got accepted to a Ph.D. program at the University of Maryland, and I got engaged! :D Not to mention a recent trackday at Chuckwalla (and a recent high-side :P)! Busy, busy, busy...

Anyways here she is, my motorcyclist survey. It is pretty straight-forward; nothing is designed to trick you. It is through a survey website used by my university (California State University, San Bernardino) called Qualtrics. You do not have to provide any personal information, and I will not ask you to do so. I will not be able to link any responses to any participants. It is 100% anonymous. Here is the link:

http://csusbpsych.us.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_02IlhgIeqfNHSYY (http://csusbpsych.us.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_02IlhgIeqfNHSYY)

Of course, thank you all very much for participating! The survey should not take longer than 10 minutes.
~Kyle


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Buckethead on April 22, 2012, 05:54:31 PM
Donezo!  [beer]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Vishwacorp on April 22, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
Submitted  :)


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: SDkid on April 22, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Did it.  I am curious the results and trends you find with this.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Dirty Duc on April 22, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
May I suggest adding "filter" questions for the ones that have obvious follow-ons?


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: kopfjÀger on April 22, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Not sure what page 2 was all about, but 10mins after I submitted a black helicopter showed up.  :D


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: ute on April 22, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
done good luck


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Hellraising-vtec on April 22, 2012, 06:48:37 PM
done. good luck


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Buckethead on April 22, 2012, 06:54:37 PM
Not sure what page 2 was all about, but 10mins after I submitted a black helicopter showed up.  :D

I'm sure it was just a coincidence.

Shit! He's onto us! No time to lose. Switch to plan Sierra tango pappa. GO! GO! GO!


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: BMiller on April 22, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
Done. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: NAKID on April 22, 2012, 07:12:01 PM
Cool, Page 2 is a brief excerpt from the MMPI huh?


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Howie on April 22, 2012, 07:28:45 PM
Doneded.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: philsu on April 22, 2012, 08:46:37 PM
done.

are you doing a correlation between risk assessment and type A vs. B personality? I know I'm over simplifying.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: d3vi@nt on April 22, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
Me too!


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Grampa on April 22, 2012, 09:08:43 PM
Just like me.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Grampa on April 22, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
Oh.......and you forgot a boobies question.




Noob


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Anchorism on April 22, 2012, 09:45:38 PM
Completed.... Hope you plan on posting the results from this survey. It would be interesting to see.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Slim1899 on April 22, 2012, 11:07:09 PM
Done, and ya, share findings!!!  And by the way, I already knew I was a selfish asshole who votes conservative and feels awkward in certain social situations as I despise most people, but hey, good times  ;D [beer]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Kev M on April 23, 2012, 06:31:15 AM
Interesting - you've posted this link on this forum and the Harley XL forum.

I wonder what other forums? What's your total demographic?

I assume from your XL post it should include a Triumph forum too no?

hmmm


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: CDawg on April 23, 2012, 06:56:43 AM
Good luck.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: mgrisham on April 23, 2012, 07:54:20 AM
Done. Please post results.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: DucMouse the Mighty on April 23, 2012, 08:04:08 AM
done & done


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: junior varsity on April 23, 2012, 08:14:31 AM
done.


Type A - Attorney / Engineer - hyperfocused on details and enjoy talks about "the bigger picture and ideas".   Walking conundrum full of stress.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: yamifixer on April 23, 2012, 08:21:45 AM
DONE. Do i get a prize?


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: MikeZ on April 23, 2012, 08:34:33 AM
Done


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: jaxduc on April 23, 2012, 08:46:48 AM
Ducati Monster Riders are safe, outgoing, and vote for liberals?
Is that it?
I'm so curious to read your report!


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: ducrider45 on April 23, 2012, 09:52:46 AM
Done, and no liberal votes here ;D [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: The Bacon Junkie on April 23, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
I done did it!









 [bacon]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Triple J on April 23, 2012, 10:44:33 AM
Done


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: danaid on April 23, 2012, 11:44:12 AM
 Done :)


Interesting - you've posted this link on this forum and the Harley XL forum.

I wonder what other forums? What's your total demographic?

I assume from your XL post it should include a Triumph forum too no?

hmmm


 I would be interested in seeing the Harley vs. this forums results. I used to visit the Harley and Buell forums when I had my sportster, lots of racism and general angry talk..... No thank you!


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: jaxduc on April 23, 2012, 12:10:41 PM
Done, and no liberal votes here ;D [thumbsup]
[thumbsup] same here... i just always assumed I was the only conservative person who rode a ducati.... not that I'm trying to talk religion or politics (the two no's)
...but it just jumped out to me as a survey on safe motorcycle riders vs their political views


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: stopintime on April 23, 2012, 12:37:03 PM
I'm so sorry to piss in your thread and be negative, but I have to - after extensive studies and work within the field of methodology and statistics.

There is no way to know what characterizes the respondents in such a survey - based on voluntary participation
Respondents should be picked randomly - best way of reaching a representative selection.

I can explain further by PM if you read this and want to improve the study.

 :-\


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: akmnstr on April 23, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
I'm so sorry to piss in your thread and be negative, but I have to - after extensive studies and work within the field of methodology and statistics.

There is no way to know what characterizes the respondents in such a survey - based on voluntary participation
Respondents should be picked randomly - best way of reaching a representative selection.

I can explain further by PM if you read this and want to improve the study.

 :-\
So sorry to piss on your post but he can characterize the respondents to the survey, what he cannot do is make a valid inference to a larger population. 


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: junior varsity on April 23, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
smells like ammonia around here.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: jaxduc on April 23, 2012, 01:23:14 PM
smells like ammonia around here.
[puke]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Duchess on April 23, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
Done   ...  And the population he picks is entirely in relation to what thesis he is trying to prove.

If he is comparing characteristics of people who hang around in chat rooms with say, another population canvassed in a bar and another canvassed in an art museum, he could come up with some interesting conclusions.

Or maybe he is just comparing Ducati owners who participate in chat rooms and who respond to online questionnaires appreciation of art to that of similar HD owners.

Population bias is only a problem if you don't build it into your experimental design or into your analysis.

He is innocent until proved guilty !


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Dirty Duc on April 23, 2012, 01:31:53 PM
Anyways here she is, my motorcyclist survey. It is pretty straight-forward; nothing is designed to trick you.

The motorcyclist questions were a smokescreen to trick us into answering the psychobabble questions...  and the research is actually a qualitative project being done on the various forums.  stopintime and akmnstr fell into the trap! ;D


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: tom_sd on April 23, 2012, 01:35:50 PM
Done!  Do I get a cookie?


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: jaxduc on April 23, 2012, 01:52:43 PM
we are ALL part of the experiment  [bang]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: stopintime on April 23, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
The point is just that there is no way of knowing who responds and what they have, or don't have, in common with a representative (usually random) selection.

The only info that could come out of this is that a bad selection of x-brand forum'ers answered "this" compared to - a bad selection of y-brand forum'ers said "that".

It won't be a lie, but not particularly valuable...


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Duchess on April 23, 2012, 02:06:48 PM
It won't be a lie, but not particularly valuable...

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Dirty Duc on April 23, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
The point is just that there is no way of knowing who responds and what they have, or don't have, in common with a representative (usually random) selection.

The only info that could come out of this is that a bad selection of x-brand forum'ers answered "this" compared to - a bad selection of y-brand forum'ers said "that".

It won't be a lie, but not particularly valuable...

It looks like he is using the exact same link for all the forums so it is actually a self-selected selection of people who read motorcycle forums (not necessarily motorcyclists, just people who play one on the internet) answered "this."  How else are you going to be able to draw conclusions on the motorcycling public?  Were you to ask the same survey questions at a large gathering of motorcyclists, you still would have survey results tainted by any number of qualifiers (IBA meeting? HOG meeting? DOC gathering? Vintage motorcycles?).

Even were he to mail the survey to every single licensed motorcycle, he would still miss a representative sample due to those who don't register their motorcycle for whatever reason.  And not all motorcyclists hold a valid operator's permit, so that selection criteria is less than useful anyway.

The results of this survey are likely to be no less valid to today's motorcyclists than the Hurt report... from better than 3 decades ago!

dammit, he sucked me in, too


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Travman on April 23, 2012, 02:58:30 PM
Ugh.  I'd like to change my answer on the "Rarely get irritated." question.  If there had been one more question.  I would have lost it. 


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: NAKID on April 23, 2012, 04:10:01 PM
You should see how many questions are on the Minnesota Miltiphasic Personality Inventory....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory)


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: hbliam on April 23, 2012, 04:31:39 PM
You should see how many questions are on the Minnesota Miltiphasic Personality Inventory....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory)

There is another one you take...in conjunction with the MMPI..for police jobs. Around 1000 questions. Drives you bonkers. I figured em out though and can finish in about 40 minutes.


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: NAKID on April 23, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
It's essentially the same 50 or so questions asked in slighty different wording...


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: junior varsity on April 24, 2012, 06:45:23 AM
neutral


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Kev M on April 24, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
I would be interested in seeing the Harley vs. this forums results. I used to visit the Harley and Buell forums when I had my sportster, lots of racism and general angry talk..... No thank you!

Not including the XLforum - ??? - couldn't be, that forum is about as annoyingly PC as a "motorcycle" forum can be right? Honestly, I'd suggest there's not as big a variance between motorcyclists of different brands as many seem to think.

My favorite Guzzi forum is far more likely to bad-mouth Harley owners than my favorite Harley forum would be to badmouth Guzzis or Ducatis or Triumphs or almost anything else.  Just as Trav - he posts on that Guzzi forum too:

Ugh.  I'd like to change my answer on the "Rarely get irritated." question.  If there had been one more question.  I would have lost it. 


 [laugh]


Title: Re: Here it is! Please aid a graduate student in his research :)
Post by: Rob Hilding on April 24, 2012, 04:55:56 PM
Done

And people say were just a bunch of DMF'ers

 ;)


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