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FP1 was a full wet, cold, crappy FP which saw some of the factory riders doing nothing, CRT riders actually putting in laps and everyone else doing a sighting lap or two and not much else.

FP1 Results

1   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   261.9   1'48.674   
2   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   261.3   1'54.641   5.967 / 5.967
3   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   255.1   1'55.214   6.540 / 0.573
19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   267.5   1'56.398   7.724 / 1.184
54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   256.2   1'56.853   8.179 / 0.455
51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   253.8   1'59.239   10.565 / 2.386
68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   254.4   2'02.868   14.194 / 3.629
5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   232.6   2'05.991   17.317 / 3.123
1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda         
4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha         
8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati         
9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda         
11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha         
17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati         
26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda         
35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha         
41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART         
46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati         
69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati         
77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART         
99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha         

And FP2...apparently, Rossi put on his big girl panties and actually did something worth mentioning.  [laugh]

1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   275.4   1'50.780   
2   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   275.9   1'51.440   0.660 / 0.660
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   275.7   1'51.873   1.093 / 0.433
4   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   277.3   1'52.106   1.326 / 0.233
5   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   272.1   1'52.254   1.474 / 0.148
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   276.1   1'53.070   2.290 / 0.816
7   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   273.3   1'53.166   2.386 / 0.096
8   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   272.7   1'53.352   2.572 / 0.186
9   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   271.9   1'53.409   2.629 / 0.057
10   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   273.3   1'53.409   2.629
11   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   256.4   1'54.155   3.375 / 0.746
12   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   261.5   1'54.370   3.590 / 0.215
13   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   273.4   1'54.378   3.598 / 0.008
14   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   274.5   1'54.581   3.801 / 0.203
15   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   260.3   1'54.707   3.927 / 0.126
16   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   260.7   1'54.748   3.968 / 0.041
17   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   259.0   1'54.915   4.135 / 0.167
18   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   248.8   1'55.752   4.972 / 0.837
19   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   259.1   1'56.067   5.287 / 0.315
20   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   254.1   1'57.475   6.695 / 1.408
21   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   257.3   1'57.789   7.009 / 0.314

Just noticed FP1/FP2 comparison...Ivan Silva was 14kph slower in FP1 than Dani in FP2 but still managed a 1:48.674 to Dani's 1:50.780. God I hope the race is in the wet...

we've all said it in the past...rain is the great equalizer....

Speaking of rain and jumping off topic a little bit, anyone see the WSS race from Assen? Lanzi was a make the beast with two backsIN' BEAST! I hope like hell that guy gets a ride for the rest of the season. Not bad to come out on a "not as competitive" bike in a one off appearance and not only finish a slippery sloppy race but to put it on the top of the box.  [thumbsup]

Rain and cobras on the track. I would love to see a CRT on the podium. Anyway, the factory guys didn't do much either in FP2. The Yammies seem to have some issues. Lorenzo was not happy. I think they will continue to tip toe around the track even during qualifying. They will go out, set one fast lap and come back in.

F rain races. 

Except for that one in 2009 for wsbk.  Forget which track it was.

you talking about the one at Donnington that had the wild qualy from Kiyonari where he was slippin and sliding the Ten Kate Honda all over the place to make the pole?

What is the logic behind the tail light on the bikes?

Same as F1, AFAIK.
Supposedly makes the bike easier to see in the rain.

 :-\

FP1 was more like a halfwet/dry track with light rain.  The factories didn't go out due to low tire allocation and the fact they would wreck their tires in a few laps.  Had any of them actually gone out for real work, I guarantee Silva wouldn't be topping charts.  The CRT's have little data for electronics/rain setup and needed to run.

or was it in 2011 when Haga was leading on Aprilia and crashing with a 17 sec lead.  Somebody should have told him to slow the f down.

Forgot which track though...

Hayden qualified 3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.....Rossi 13th

I'm am so make the beast with two backsing pumped that Nicky can still pull that shit out even though he is 8 tents off the pace. At least it shows that the Ducati can be ridden. Just not by Val.

was that in the wet?

Dry

wow

Rossi 13th!? WTF!? Has he just given up? Dreaming of racing rally cars? I'm a big Rossi fan but I am at a loss at what to say. [roll] [bang] [popcorn]

Yeah, good for Nicky! [thumbsup] [bow_down]

It would be nice to see Spies next to him.

Kind of telling that Rossi no longer comments on what they can do to make the bike "better" but rather says what they can do to make the bike "less worse"

I think the guy has given up. 

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Rossi is a miserable 13th place qualifying, however, that is only 3.4 seconds off pole.
That's not the end of the world. Ya, 1,.......2,........3,..4. but still, not the end of the world.

Way to go NICKY! fookya!

Finally had a chance to sit down and watch the entire QP

Lorenzo and Pedro bouncing fast laps off each other was about as interesting as it could be

I think it will be an interesting race tomorrow depending on the weather

Here are the times

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   282.1   1'39.532   
2   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   283.5   1'39.667   0.135 / 0.135
3   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   282.3   1'40.563   1.031 / 0.896
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   281.7   1'40.570   1.038 / 0.007
5   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   285.9   1'40.577   1.045 / 0.007
6   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   280.9   1'41.090   1.558 / 0.513
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   284.0   1'41.180   1.648 / 0.090
8   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   286.9   1'41.447   1.915 / 0.267
9   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   287.3   1'41.550   2.018 / 0.103
10   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   265.6   1'41.700   2.168 / 0.150
11   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   284.2   1'41.724   2.192 / 0.024
12   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   288.8   1'41.871   2.339 / 0.147
13   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   282.3   1'42.961   3.429 / 1.090
14   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   267.7   1'43.135   3.603 / 0.174
15   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   268.2   1'43.363   3.831 / 0.228
16   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   266.5   1'44.308   4.776 / 0.945
17   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   269.5   1'44.467   4.935 / 0.159
18   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   257.4   1'44.645   5.113 / 0.178
19   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   261.4   1'44.717   5.185 / 0.072
20   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   264.8   1'45.724   6.192 / 1.007
21   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   264.5   1'46.200   6.668 / 0.476

just watched gp qualifying.  Go Nicky!


mitt

Aspar is the aprilia right.  it qualified faster than three satellites and one factory team with three of those ducati.  [laugh]

Pos.   Points   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time/Gap
1   25   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   157.3   45'33.897
2   20   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   157.2   +0.947
3   16   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   157.1   +2.063
4   13   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   157.1   +2.465
5   11   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   156.2   +18.100
6   10   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   156.0   +21.395
7   9   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   155.6   +28.637
8   8   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   155.6   +28.869
9   7   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   155.3   +34.852
10   6   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   155.3   +35.103
11   5   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   155.1   +38.041
12   4   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   153.2   +1'12.728
13   3   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   152.9   +1'18.669
14   2   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   152.3   +1'29.142
15   1   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   152.1   +1'32.478
16      5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   151.7   +1'40.577
17      17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   150.6   1 Lap

I didnt get to watch the race, but was monitoring with Live Feed from MotoGP.com
looks like Nicky was holding fine for about 8 laps, but just couldn't keep the pace. Tires?

The Ben in 11th? WTF?

I'm a big Spies fan but if doesn't get consistant decent/podium finshes I just don't see his contract getting renewed. Maybe he needs to go back to WSBK. Some folks just don't get MotoGP. And he was raised in the SBK world. Can't believe I am saying that but even after his WSBK championship I never seriously thought he would do it again in MotoGP. No more than I thought Colin Edwards would do it.

Does that make me bad? [laugh]

Tires... yes. The soft front went south.

That was a hell of a ride by Stoner. I think he served notice by taking J Lo on his home turf, with the full complement of douches in the stands, and on a track that favors the Yamaha over the Honda. The longest straight is about as long as the average driveway.
Great racing early on. I didn't expect Crutchlow to be as good as he is.

Cal is doing a damn good job so far! [popcorn] Looking forward to some podiums for him. [thumbsup]

3/5 top 5 bike 2 "non factory", pretty impressive IMO.

Crap move by crutchlow on Nicky in first lap or 2.

M

A good race.  [clap]

Banging handlebar action at the start, and riding on the edge of worn tyres at the end.
Pity Nicky's tyres went off so suddenly, it looked a big drop in a short time. Nicky has adapted better than you know who.

Very impressed with Casey and Jorges riding on the edge with worn tyres, real high pressure racing. Both had moments when the other could have won. I thought Jorge had him as the Yamaha looked more stable, but Casey rode the wheels off the Honda despite it being all out of shape.

Going back to 1000cc was a good idea.

There was a lot of that going on today

My favorite was when Crutchlow, Dovi, and Hayden all stuffed it straight past Pedrosa all in one turn  [evil]

It was a shame to see Pedro blow past Nicky down the straight though

And I don't care what anybody says. Nicky had a make the beast with two backsing fantastic weekend. He rode the piss outta' that donkey dick bike he has and deserves some credit for being so persistent. He didn't look very happy right after the race and rightfully so..

Really strong effort by Crutchlow.  Kind of thinking he might end up on Ben's bike next year if he keeps this up.

Oh, unless Ben starts performing, I'd fully expect that.

I really thought the big bikes would suit Ben, so I don't understand it.

Doohan was commentating down here and said Crutchlow is a real character and very marketable in Britain. He noted him as a real threat to Ben's position. Even Doohan couldn't understand Ben's results.

I think Rossi is done. I doubt we'll see him win another race in straight up conditions, and he may never get another podium without help.

Hayden looked fantastic early...shame to see him fade.

Cal has really turned it around this year. If he keeps it up I think Ben is in trouble, unless he turns it around...which I don't see.

Stoner was awesome, as was JLo. Too bad JLo couldn't mount a last lap charge.

Good race overall though!  [thumbsup]

I was also pleased with the Moto2 race....though I think if it had not been spitting...Redding would have been a clear choice for the podium/win with Marquez chasing him...it was just nutz to watch him slide and square off the turns they way he was...made me think Marquez was going to make a bad situation by trying to stuff it up the inside of him in one of those turns when doing that...

I was also really happy to see Nicky fight at the beginning like that...tis a shame that the soft tire just gave up the way it did as fast as it did...it gave me a glimmer of hope that maybe Ducati have taken the steps in the right direction...just gotta fine tune and hone it all into place...

I have not had a chance to see Moto2.

Rossi and the Ben are screwed. Watching their teammates do well ruin their credibility. Granted, Nicky fell off quite a ways, but at least he has been battling. The Ben is up shit's creek. Arguably the most sorted out bike with 1 factory and 2 satellites on the top 5. At least people expect the Ducs to suck.

ben says:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/179154/1/ben_spies_apologises_after_pathetic_race.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/179154/1/ben_spies_apologises_after_pathetic_race.html)

rossi says:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/179153/1/fresh_hope_for_valentino_rossi.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/179153/1/fresh_hope_for_valentino_rossi.html)

rossi's comments actually confirm what i've been thinking for a while; that he hasn't been using the same setup as nicky. they've still been trying to "fix" the "unfixable" bike.

we'll see what happens in portugal.

fwiw, nicky looked pretty defeated in his post-race interview. he said the tires were trashed after 7 laps and he's obviously not happy that he couldn't even beat bradl.

What he said. [thumbsup]

The Ben should start shopping WSBK rides if this keeps up. [popcorn] Riding a CRT bike would be even worse... Edwards might be lapping him!

That's pretty bad when your teammate is battling for the lead and the Tech 3 boys are kicking your ass on sattelite bikes and all you can do is say I'm sorry to your team and you don't know what was going on with the bike? Huh? Ben... it's either you or the bike. Pick one. And that comes from a fan! Maybe you should stick with bicycle racing? [laugh] That's a joke people. Hope he gets it together. [Dolph]

You know, I get that MotoGP is the big league, the brass ring, yadda yadda yadda.

Moto2 and Moto3 have made the subscription worth the price to me and we're only 2 races into the season.  [popcorn]

Getting ready to watch the MotoGP now.

Right now, for me, moto2/wsbk are currently the top tier moto racing series... motogp is just too meh.  But then again, it was the change to moto2 that made it so great so I'm just holding out that some of these new changes will start to pan out in the future... we're already seeing better racing as it is though.

And it's interesting that Rossi is finally saying that he has to change riding styles for the bike.  Will be interesting to see if he/his crew can adapt.

we've never been on 1000cc bikes before.   ;D


[thumbsup]

that was the most exciting first 3 laps of a GP in a long, long time.  i saw around lap 6 when his tires started to go.. so depressing.


well, ben doesn't understand ben's results either.  maybe jarvis is loosening some bolts on the grid. 

i'm disappointed in his riding this time just like everyone else, but this aint him.. he'll get it sorted.  i hope.

moto2 was great as usual.  and watch out world for romano fenati  :o   [thumbsup]

Agree with the comment above, moto2 is almost worth the 120 Euro a year by itself. 

Sorry, but I still don't see how Moto2 is any better than the old 250ccGP class. That was some awesome racing in it's day too! [thumbsup] [Dolph] [bow_down] Don't mean to sound like an old fart (hard not to! [laugh]) but I haven't thought much of "MotoGP" since they left the 500cc 2 stroke days. Just saying. Talk amongst yourselves... ;)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_v89mwmS0v1I/SOuN0BpzwNI/AAAAAAAAA6E/OAhTDdwDeqY/s400/grandpasimpsonyellingatig3.jpg)

 [laugh]   [laugh]    [laugh]   


mitt

I still think we should have an ol' fart smiley. [laugh]

Coupla good laps, then it sucked.  Best of the weekend--Cal.  Worst--The Ben.  

Rossi?  Boo.  Boo.  Boo.  
The Ben?  Boo.  He'll get it together.  Don't write him off.  It's only been two races.  During which he has suxor'd.  
Crutchlow?  Loved him in WSS and WSBK.  Stopped caring last year when he sucked.  Now, I kinda root for him and kinda don't root for him (cuz he's a threat to The Ben).  But it's great to see him finally showing what he can do in GP.  A bit deceptive since he was on a hard.  But it was still fun to watch.
Stoner?  Kudos for legitimate shit talkin' about how make the beast with two backsed up Rossi is.  You've earned it.  Solid, mang.  
Nicky?  Fun while it lasted.  Good to see a bit of your 2006 form.  But WTF, mang?  Get a bike that you can work with.  I bet he'd run with the big boys on a Honda (one that isn't designed for a midget) or a yammie.
George?  You make the beast with two backs chickens.

 [laugh]

yep, the 250s were always ruthless and a fantastic show.  for 5 riders.

Moto2 is better because people can afford to be competitive.  the grid, what, doubled in size?  and all sorts of also-rans are now challenging.



...but you know this and you were just goodolddaysin'.  i know, i know.   [cheeky] ;D

Pretty much. ;)

But I do love the Simpson "old man yells at cloud" post!! [laugh] [laugh] Hey, you kids get the hell off my lawn!! [laugh] [laugh]

When's the next WSBK race? [popcorn] [bacon]

Don't mess with ol' farts.... ;D

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q582/BuckMill69/th_Old_Men_Vs_RC_car_on_golf_course.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/albums/q582/BuckMill69/?action=view&current=Old_Men_Vs_RC_car_on_golf_course.mp4)

get off my lawn you young whippersnapper!

Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Do not make the beast with two backs with old guys with golf clubs in the middle of a game. Rule #2,232 of life. It's been etched in stone for decades. Everyone but those punks should know that. [laugh] RC car vs old dude with golf club loses every time! [laugh] It's a "Clint Eastwood/Gran Torino" moment. ;)

Back to race stuff... [popcorn]

That video is great!  [laugh]


...and WTF?  [laugh]

Haven't you heard?  It's pretty well established that Georgie is a total misanthrope.

^^ a moment of silence for Best Post Ever.

















 [laugh] [clap]

Classic!  [clap]

So Spidey...tell us how you REALLY feel about Horghey?

Wait, wait, wait.... I thought the MotoGP race threads were here so we could pick on Pedrobot? Now I'm confused. Guess I need to find where I put my cane and chase those damn kids off my lawn! [laugh] I'll be back later.

Finally got to watch the Moto3 race today. Good race other than that one turn that was eating bikes up.

Haven't watched the M-3 race yet. Didn't even watch the one from Qatar. Maybe I can catch the Jerez race tonight.

Just turn down the volume, start your weed eater up, and imagine it is 125 racing.
You will like it!

 ;D

It's pretty clear that George is a superb rider with some disturbing proclivities.

Good call. ;D I'll just listen to the 2 stroke leaf blowers outside in the neighbor's yard while I watch! [laugh]

Caught the action. It was a good race. [thumbsup]

I hear he is into Furries and CosPlay....and his dream is to attend ComicCon in a full superhero suit....

Or you could just eat a big bowl of beans before the M3 race and pretend its your own music.

 [laugh] [laugh] Good one Jacob!!! ;D

Fixed it for you.

hahahahahahahhaaa

 [laugh] x 2!!

I nearly threw up....

I think it all stems from that yeAr in Valencia when he pulled up on his scotter and wouldn't take a picture with you.   

Bit did you seriously quote yourself 10 times?