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Title: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 03:20:32 AM
Had the S4RS on the dyno few week ago and finaly worked out how to post the results  [thumbsup]

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2610461622_42627c8f97.jpg?v=0)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: R_usty on June 25, 2008, 03:27:41 AM
Nice smooth lines Doc - I will have to take mine to Dave one day too!


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: DosVerde on June 25, 2008, 03:48:11 AM
Looks good Doc, a very healthy donk. Are you getting that just with the Full Termis, DP ECU and Air Filter?



Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Big T on June 25, 2008, 04:00:17 AM
For comparison to your chart Dock.....

This was done at Flywheels with:

RED:
~ Full Zards
~ Stock ECU
~ Stock Airbox

BLUE:
~ Full Zards
~ DP ECU
~ DP Open Airbox

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2584035020_05952fbf94.jpg?v=0)



Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Nice smooth lines Doc - I will have to take mine to Dave one day too!

He is quite a good guy, He said he could have bumped it up maybe another 5% by removing the SAE corrections but that would only support you ego and not the true facts.

according to the AMCN he has the most accurate dyno around let me know whe you wanta go [thumbsup]


For comparison to your chart Dock.....

This was done at Flywheels with:

RED:
~ Full Zards
~ Stock ECU
~ Stock Airbox

BLUE:
~ Full Zards
~ DP ECU
~ DP Open Airbox



Hey Big T you got some big poneys under the bonnet [thumbsup]
.


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 02:50:25 PM
Looks good Doc, a very healthy donk. Are you getting that just with the Full Termis, DP ECU and Air Filter?



Yeh just ECU,open box , air filter, full system, I also would like to mention i run only unleded so maybe a bit more hp with premium fuel. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 02:51:19 PM
Mine's not as pretty, but I did get 137.7 HP.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/nordog59/S4RSDynoChartwithoutnamelf.jpg (http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/nordog59/S4RSDynoChartwithoutnamelf.jpg)

[UPDATE: I replaced the image with the link; little better graphic that way and doesn't take up room on the page here.]


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 03:33:28 PM
Mine's not as pretty, but I did get 137.7 HP.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/nordog59/4DMF.jpg)

Ok just cleared some thing up with Dave, as I have been told there are 2 standards STD and SAE, He didn’t want to get into the complete explanation as he didn't have a all day.

STD not meaning standard hp on the side of you data sheet, this is the old out dated standard maybe 15years out of date.

SAE is the new standard when I say new been around for yonks which allows for all of the corrections including EN :engine friction with temperature ,also didn't have a all day to explain.

So if I was to run my monster on a STD dyno today I would probably be achieving an extra 8% . something about allowing for ram air which we don’t have.
but that not fact there is no correction included for the STD standard.




Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 05:55:24 PM
Gee, isn't engine friction already taken into account since the dyno measures at the rear wheel?


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 06:07:43 PM
Gee, isn't engine friction already taken into account since the dyno measures at the rear wheel?

As logic would make you believe ,but as he said its not a simple explanation so I just take his word for it.He knows his job i know mine [thumbsup]


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
As logic would make you believe ,but as he said its not a simple explanation so I just take his word for it.He knows his job i know mine [thumbsup]

Well, I Googled it, and he's right.  Seems to have something to do with the correction factors used to have the measurement at a standard of atmospheric conditions.  Apparently, the STD correction is less, ah, penalizing than the SAE correction.

So, not sure what my 137.7 STD HP would be in SAE HP.  But the S4RS rips nonetheless.  The full termignoni exhuast kit has certainly helped.


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 08:29:58 PM
Well, I Googled it, and he's right.  Seems to have something to do with the correction factors used to have the measurement at a standard of atmospheric conditions.  Apparently, the STD correction is less, ah, penalizing than the SAE correction.

So, not sure what my 137.7 STD HP would be in SAE HP.  But the S4RS rips nonetheless.  The full termignoni exhuast kit has certainly helped.

Goes with out saying the S4RS is an animal as standard 119.9 RW/HP SAE,

Tickle it in its personal bits and it becomes a demon


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Big T on June 26, 2008, 03:40:02 AM
Tickle it in its personal bits and it becomes a demon (http://www.1098-forum.com/forums/images/smilies/evil.gif)

And my Monster now tickles me back...... Got to love that......  ;D


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Jukie on June 26, 2008, 03:54:24 AM
so the new seat feels really good does it Big T ;)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: JDS 07 S4Rs on June 26, 2008, 07:47:04 AM
Getting a little confussed guys. "Big T" #s are from the flywheel. "Nordog & Dock" are your #s from the back wheel. I am assuming they are !
Different Dyno's, different temps & altitude will affect the readings a little (from what I have read) Winpep Dyno's are at the Rear wheel,, right?

Either way,,, "Big T" made a huge improvement with Zards & DP ECU,,,,,,,,, just thinking out loud while typeing.
I sure would like to see someone post some #s like those with a Powercommand/Rapid Bike/Dynojet,, or any other after market programmer.  :)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: NorDog on June 26, 2008, 08:17:29 AM
Yeah, my numbers are measured at the rear wheel.


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 26, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
And my Monster now tickles me back...... Got to love that......  ;D

Hmm dont know if i like the sound of being tickled in that area  Big T


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Super T.I.B on June 26, 2008, 09:17:47 PM
Damn you Dock and your funny smilies!


 ;D


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Big T on June 26, 2008, 09:46:49 PM
It's okay Super... What happens on the seat, stays on the seat.....  :o

Mmmmm digging a bigger hole for myself here.......

No further comment your honour......  8)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on June 26, 2008, 10:59:24 PM
Damn you Dock and your funny smilies!


 ;D

What have I done


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: tricolore on August 06, 2008, 03:18:15 AM
Its old report but still a very interesting read.
http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/s4rsmonstertermikit.html#top (http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/s4rsmonstertermikit.html#top)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on August 06, 2008, 01:31:49 PM
Its old report but still a very interesting read.
http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/s4rsmonstertermikit.html#top (http://www.moto-one.com.au/performance/s4rsmonstertermikit.html#top)

Dam You Tri now im gona spend more money on it [bang]

But yes it is good reading you learn something new every day.


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Spider on August 06, 2008, 02:51:57 PM
why Dock, what is the setup of yours and what would you like to alter?


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on August 06, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
why Dock, what is the setup of yours and what would you like to alter?

Mine has a DP race ecu, open 2 into 1 60mm exhaust and open airbox.

Now thanks to Tri i would like to Lighten the fly wheel and tickle the cams  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: tricolore on August 06, 2008, 04:12:16 PM
Sorry Dock, You can't help yourself either hey?:-[ Though come december the extra power may seem insignificant  ;)


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: Dockstrada on August 06, 2008, 05:11:46 PM
Sorry Dock, You can't help yourself either hey?:-[ Though come december the extra power may seem insignificant  ;)

Im not so sure abot that Tri ,from what i have been reading the power delivery on the D16RR all 200hp is alot smother, it dosent kick you in the pants like the VTwin it just go's and go's and keeps going . being that i got the same impresion from riding the 1098, i think the monster is always going to be a beast to ride more of a kick inthe pants.  [moto]

P.S Tri please do not post this type of porn any more im trying to save to pay for the desmo  [bang]


Title: Re: S4RS on the dyno
Post by: melvin on August 06, 2008, 07:07:46 PM


i feel so inadequate  :(

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