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Free Practice 1
1   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha      1'40.813   
2   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'41.086   0.273 / 0.273
3   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'41.502   0.689 / 0.416
4   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'41.943   1.130 / 0.441
5   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda      1'42.230   1.417 / 0.287
6   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'42.291   1.478 / 0.061
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'42.343   1.530 / 0.052
8   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'43.078   2.265 / 0.735
9   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'43.256   2.443 / 0.178
10   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati      1'43.265   2.452 / 0.009
11   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'43.277   2.464 / 0.012
12   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR      1'43.511   2.698 / 0.234
13   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda      1'43.527   2.714 / 0.016
14   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter      1'44.909   4.096 / 1.382
15   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda      1'45.148   4.335 / 0.239
16   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'45.636   4.823 / 0.488
17   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART      1'46.004   5.191 / 0.368
18   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'46.271   5.458 / 0.267
   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART      1'52.429   11.616 / 6.158
   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati         
   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha

Is it wet?
Whats with Jorge?

Just read its a drying track, Jorge opted to sit out. Apparently its similar to Jerez first practice, Well as far as the weather is concerned

FP2

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:38.396
2 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha M1 1:38.717
3 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha M1 1:38.742
4 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:38.797
5 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha M1 1:38.930
6 Alvaro Bautista Honda Gresini Honda RC213V 1:38.959
7 Nicky Hayden Marlboro Ducati Team Ducati GP12 1:39.029
8 Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team Ducati GP12 1:39.193
9 Valentino Rossi Marlboro Ducati Team Ducati GP12 1:39.357
10 Andrea Dovizioso Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha M1 1:39.615
11 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing Ducati GP12 1:40.207
12 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda MotoGP Honda RC213V 1:40.898
13 Randy De Puniet Aspar Team MotoGP ART 1:41.088
14 Aleix Esparago Aspar Team MotoGP ZART 1:41.634
15 Yonny Hernandez BQR BQR-FTR 1:41.638
16 Mattia Pasini SpeedMaster VART 1:41.973
17 Michele Pirro Honda Gresini FTR 1:42.252
18 Colin Edwards Forward Racing Suter 1:42.587
19 Ivan Silva BQR BQR-FTR 1:42.804
20 Danilo Petrucci Ioda Racing Project Ioda 1:42.984


Dry session. Spies led a great deal of it, but Stoner was able to basically do a few sighting laps and then bang a low 1:38.

 [popcorn]

I like to see when the first 9 riders are within 1 second of each other.

Now that's more like it.

Btw, not that it hasn't already been clearly discussed why the duc works better in the wet but I sure hope the corse guys are paying attention to fp1 vs fp2.   Give the dragon a chill pill.

Jeez, The Ben wasn't kidding last week when he said that he thought they'd finally found a setting to test Friday that he was pretty certain would work.

round 1 and 2 were sure ugly.  but he's not going anywhere without a fight.

FP 3

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'37.326   
2   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'37.338   0.012 / 0.012
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha      1'37.680   0.354 / 0.342
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'38.086   0.760 / 0.406
5   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'38.273   0.947 / 0.187
6   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda      1'38.332   1.006 / 0.059
7   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'38.443   1.117 / 0.111
8   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha      1'38.558   1.232 / 0.115
9   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'38.602   1.276 / 0.044
10   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda      1'38.714   1.388 / 0.112
11   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati      1'38.856   1.530 / 0.142
12   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'39.361   2.035 / 0.505
13   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'40.225   2.899 / 0.864
14   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati      1'40.374   3.048 / 0.149
15   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'40.561   3.235 / 0.187
16   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART      1'40.875   3.549 / 0.314
17   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR      1'41.379   4.053 / 0.504
18   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'41.772   4.446 / 0.393
19   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda      1'42.002   4.676 / 0.230
20   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART      1'42.103   4.777 / 0.101
21   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter      1'42.145   4.819 / 0.042

Aaaaaaaaaand the QP

Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'37.188   
2   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda      1'37.201   0.013 / 0.013
3   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'37.289   0.101 / 0.088
4   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha      1'37.466   0.278 / 0.177
5   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha      1'37.723   0.535 / 0.257
6   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda      1'37.917   0.729 / 0.194
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha      1'37.943   0.755 / 0.026
8   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati      1'38.006   0.818 / 0.063
9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'38.059   0.871 / 0.053
10   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati      1'38.253   1.065 / 0.194
11   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda      1'38.265   1.077 / 0.012
12   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'39.353   2.165 / 1.088
13   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati      1'39.398   2.210 / 0.045
14   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART      1'39.586   2.398 / 0.188
15   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'40.029   2.841 / 0.443
16   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR      1'40.225   3.037 / 0.196
17   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART      1'40.387   3.199 / 0.162
18   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter      1'40.964   3.776 / 0.577
19   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART      1'41.394   4.206 / 0.430
20   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda      1'41.486   4.298 / 0.092
21   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR      1'41.490   4.302 / 0.004


RdP fashionably took out Edwards in the QP. I hope he's ok to ride tomorrow

Colin broke his collar bone in the crash.   [thumbsdown]

Damn... if this keeps up I cant see anyway Ben's going to keep his spot vs Cal next year.

Beat!

They all seemed to be struggling with the last third of the Track, it was surprising to see how many Riders were under the number 1 spot by .3 or .4 of a second and then suddenly reach the line and by half a second above the time.

The Commentators were saying there was a number of comments from riders about how the newly Resurfaced sections are so dark that when they had spots of rain the riders couldn't make out the Damp from the Dry sections.

I did also notice a number of riders when returning to the pits during Qualifying were all gesticulating to there Engineers about the Bikes front ends diving, Casey was really waving his hand about like the bike was really trying to bury it's nose into the ground at the end of the Main straight, but I noticed a number of riders also making that same Gesture when talking to there engineers.

Also, what happened to Jorge on the last lap of Qualifying? He looked like he was going for a blinder, then sat up most pissed off, they cut away from him for a second so I didn't see what happened to throw him off his lap.

QP was a make the beast with two backsing mess. Great job by Cal!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

So the idea of the CRT teams is to expand the grid and have more bikes on track?

13 finishers?  It's not working.

Stoner is the man. Spies isn't looking good at all...a factory Yamaha getting beat by the turd that is the Ducati GP bike.

Boring race.

So what?

Moto2 was AWEXOME!!!!1!

Battle for 1st!   [popcorn]

Battle for 6th!   [popcorn]

I was screaming for the whole last lap!  [Dolph] [Dolph] [Dolph]

Huh? I was just saying the GP race was boring.

...haven't watched the Moto2 race, but I expect it to be awesome as usual.  [thumbsup]

As Spies' seat starts to slip from his grasp.....

Am I losing my hearing?

Every time Speed goes to the "Official" feed I'm having trouble understanding the announcers because the idiotic sound guys seem to think they need unmuffled motorcycle engine noise playing loudly in the background.  I thought it was just gonna be last week, but noooooo.....

Can someone tell them to turn it off/down a lot?

Help!

Updated - it must be Speed, cause same stupid effect for AMA at Infineon..... [roll]

Moto2!  [bow_down] [bow_down]

<yawn> If Stoner gets his chatter problem fixed and his arm pump issues resolved, it's going to be a reallllly boring season. 


Hellz yeah.   [thumbsup]

hey keep wanting to hear from fans via the twitter thingy dingy...if I twittered...I'd chime in on that route...

I've got a blood pressure screening tomorrow afternoon. I may have to go back and re-watch Moto3 and Moto2.  [evil]

Wouldn't it be better to watch GP first, get your screening, pass with flying colors, then watch Moto1 and Moto2?

maybe he doesn't want to pass?  :-\

Ordinarily, yes.

In this case (dealing with the VA), no.

CEII will sit out LeMans, return at Catalunya.

Substitute rider for the Foward/Suter/BMW TBD Wednesday.

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/05/08/colin_edwards_collarbone_surgery_success.html (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/05/08/colin_edwards_collarbone_surgery_success.html)

Just got to watch the Moto3 race.  That last lap was soooooooo good.   [thumbsup]

Cortese interview:  "I give him the space to be second."   [laugh]  Best quote of the year so far.   [clap]

Just read in local bike mag that Hayden's bike had a problem with the sat nav and ecu. The bike got lost on the track and the ecu gave the wrong power, engine braking etc at different parts of the track. Hayden diplomatically said it was "quite dangerous".  It cut power on the staight and then add it in the wrong place causing him to nearly lose the front.
In light of that he did a good job to finish the race.

which says to me...the need for rider safety starts with the right hand twisting the throttle and controlling that stuff...sorry...but that kind of crap shouldn't dictate the machines capability to perform, no matter where it is...that stuff should all be passive read only devices IMHO...

Yeah, it reminds me of when Suzuki and Aprillia had a "ghost in the machine". Those guys got pretty beat up, Edwards, Hopper and Haga.
Glad he got through ok.

Amen to that.  Having unleashed that technology will they ever throw it overboard and just go back to man and machine? Not.

If the electrics were cluster make the beast with two backsed why couldn't he just flip a switch and shut it all down and go old school and ride the bike? Don't people ride bikes these days using the throttle and brakes? Just asking... [popcorn]

Yeah, they just grab full throttle at mid corner and let the electronics do the rest.

looks like the Mole will replace Edwards for the next 2 rounds....

http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/May/120509a.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/May/120509a.htm)

I think they would have done better to have gotten Corser personally....

Yeah, I don't know about Verm filling in for CE. His leg injury reminds me of the Hopper. Enough is enough. Save your body for old age. What kind of super performance do you think he will produce in 2 rounds on a back marker CRT bike? Let some kid have a shot at it. [popcorn] [bacon] [Dolph]

Finally sat down and watched the Moto3 race. Great battle between Cortese and Vinales. Vinales was PISSED.

That was a fantastic race.  [thumbsup] Vinales was being a whiner...I didn't see anything wrong at all from Cortese. "I gave him room to be second"  [laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]

Absolutely agree. Unfortunaely, I like Vinales. At least he is one Spaniard that doesn't look like his face is going to shatter when he smiles and he is most definitely passionate. Unlike Brian Wy McBrittleFace.

God I love all the Pedrobot names we've come up with! [laugh] [laugh] Poor bastard takes a beating on this board. [cheeky]

Solid work right there.  [thumbsup] 

Cortese's post-race quote singlehandedly made me a GIANT fan of his.   

 [thumbsup]



and since i'm days late to the thread: ben.  get your shit together.  for make the beast with two backs's sake.

and i only scanned the other pages, but yeah, nicky's bike got lost.  and i assume the 'grab a bunch of throttle and let the electronics figure it out' thing was just a joke.. cuz it doesn't work that way.  like, at all.

both collars for colin.. bummer    >:(

It was a little broad, but to be fair, they open the throttle much earlier in the corner than they would have years ago.  While Jorge has shown us that highsides still exist, he's also shown us that complete faith in electronics = go very fast.

So, our MotoGP heroes are truly nothing more than 'riders'....?

If Dorna/FIM 'hires' chimpanzees and pays them with bananas they could afford to have 40 bikes on the grid

They already did...it's called Moto2 :)

negatory.  those bikes will all still toss you into next week.

jorge is very fast because jorge is very fast.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Maybe, but those chimps sure are entertaining.

I can see Marc Marquez throwing feces ;D

There you go, flaunting you MotoGP.com subscription in our faces. Speed cuts that part out for us plebeians.

Racing Underground. I heard Nate has invites.  [evil]  [laugh]

Yes, but we get Greg Craptastic in trade.

Which is why I prefaced it with the highside comment.  I think any rider that had experience on older bikes will tell you they can crack the throttle earlier than ever on modern machinery.  You don't need for me to tell you why they spend a ton of time dicking with electronics to make sure every damn corner is mapped just right.  Saying electronics doesn't drop the lap times on these bikes is crazy.  I promise you they would back off a bit if they didn't trust that computer 100%.

totally.  i agree with that completely.  but characterizing it by saying that all you need to do is twist the throttle and hang on is.. waaaay off     :)