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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: Spydr26 on May 15, 2012, 05:56:13 AM



Title: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 15, 2012, 05:56:13 AM
Hey guys, just got my 2012 1100 EVO back in February. Love the bike, and very happy I got the 1100 over the 796.

One of the mods I have been very interested in is a dry clutch conversion, I have been searching but have had limited success. I know it can be done for the 848 and the Diavel. But I'm very interested if someone has it specifically for the EVO.
My thinking is because the 2009/2010 1100 had the dry clutch, it may make it somewhat easier to accomplish it on the EVO.

I'm not really looking for a kit (unless one exists) just a breakdown of what may be involved in doing it, I'm hoping to not have to split the cases to accomplish this and would like to keep the cost of parts under $1000.

I understand that the wet clutch is a better clutch, this is strictly a personal choice for me. Lets not beet that topic to death. [bang]

Any help you can provide would be appreciated.
Cheers!


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: ungeheuer on May 15, 2012, 06:05:20 AM
I understand that the wet clutch is a better clutch
In what way?


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: wannabfast on May 15, 2012, 07:07:15 AM
In what way?

wet clutches tend to last longer and engage smoother, but that aside

id recon you would need to swap the outer case with one off of an older 1100


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 16, 2012, 05:43:37 AM

id recon you would need to swap the outer case with one off of an older 1100
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Ya, that is a little more than I would like to get into.

Does anyone have pictures of the EVO with the clutch cover off?


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Slide Panda on May 16, 2012, 06:07:18 AM
Ya, that is a little more than I would like to get into.


Well if that's more than you want to do, then this isn't really an option.

That outer/accessory case is different as you need to seal the oil off. In previous generation Monster conversions it also required some machine work to ensure proper function.
 Of course you'd need to replace the basket, hub, plates etc as well.

If the new ones are like the old ones, its no an easy, nor just bolt on job. If I recall it was about $1200-1500 and that didn't inlcude anything too fancy in the clutch department.


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: wannabfast on May 16, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
id would be easier to get an older 1100s motor... those had dry clutches


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: BlackKat on May 16, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Its way more than that...You need to get the drive shaft from an 1100 or 1000 ds motor...basically you will be splitting the cases. Its just not worth it. Besides, the wet slipper in the EVO is pretty sweet..The only reason to swap to a dry clutch would be bragging rights that you did it...have too much bloody money! We looked into it for our project 1100evo. JUST NOT WORTH IT!


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: sbrguy on May 16, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
the real question is if the 848 dry clutch conversion will fit the new monsters or not, if it does then its literally a bolt on option a bit of work but it does come with the parts to make it bolt on.


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: BlackKat on May 16, 2012, 08:26:19 PM
Maybe...I was thinking the same thing. We just did a dry slipper conversion on an 07 sport 1000 and it had the 848 drive shaft...we needed to buy the whole kit for the 848 wet to dry conversion. I'll have to cross reference the drive shaft part number tomorrow... I still think there is more to it than that...something electronic... I got 2 beers in my at bed time....

PLEASE HOLD.....


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 17, 2012, 04:04:02 AM
This is some good info, especially if you already looked into BlackKat!
I definitely don't have an excess of money to do it, just think it is a classic Ducati feature.

I'm eagerly awaiting the thoughts on the 848 kit or any more info.

Thanks,


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: chaldoking on May 18, 2012, 04:23:10 AM
I don't know if this work on your bike but take a look at this.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56857.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56857.0)


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: caperix on May 18, 2012, 01:58:38 PM
Wet Clutch sport classics used the same clutch as the 848 so using the 848 dry clutch kit is bolt in as Blackkat said.  The 1100 EVO uses a different PN transmission input shaft & due to the APTC clutch a different clutch assembly, so it may or may not bolt in.  Im sure it can be done, it will deff require swapping the clutch side cover, clutch & primary gear set. 


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 18, 2012, 04:46:03 PM
chalkdoking, I saw that thread as well, not sure if it would work but looks interesting.

I have no problem replacing the side cover and the gear sets, just don't want to get inot splitting the cases.

does anyone ahve any pictures or technical manual clutch page from the 09 1100?


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: BlackKat on May 18, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
Sorry guys...Its been a crazy week, so I didn't get the chance to cross reference the output shaft part numbers. I was talking it over with my tech...he also mentioned the loss of the servo assisted clutch...but no biggie there...

hang tight...


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 23, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
Any luck yet BlackKat?


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: BlackKat on May 29, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
No corresponding part numbers to the 848 what so ever. You would be further ahead to buy the bottom end of an 1100 monster from 2009-2011 for the transmission etc... No splitting of the case, swapping of gears, output shaft...etc...

Hard to say what issues you might run into with installing the 1100 evo heads..Might go right on...might not..

I just have to say its not worth it in this case unless you are really bored and have lots of money and time.


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Punx Clever on May 30, 2012, 12:32:06 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4153f68065&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1287 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4153f68065&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1287)

$1100... I know it's not really a conversion... but it's probably the closest to bolt on you are gonna get.  Maybe offset the cost by selling the wet-clutch engine?


Title: Re: 1100 EVO dry clutch conversion
Post by: Spydr26 on May 30, 2012, 04:05:11 AM
Ok guys, thanks very much for the info. It looks like I might put this one on the back burner for a while.
If you find anything else feel free to message me.
Cheers,


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