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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Stuka Pilot on May 28, 2012, 06:55:41 AM

Title: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: Stuka Pilot on May 28, 2012, 06:55:41 AM
Hi All

I have a September 2007 S2R1000 which has suddenly and inexplicably developed a lot of tiny cracks and crazing across the speedo perspex lens. It is driving me nuts and I need to fix it.

Is this a known problem?
Has anyone perfected a method for replacing just the lens?
Assuming lens replacement only is out, I can get a new set of clocks from DucatiOnline for £349 - costly but not prohibitive.

Trouble is the part number quoted by DucatiPartsOnline "40610272B - UPDATED NR  40610354B" does not match the number in my parts book. Does anyone know whether this part will definitely suit this model and year and retain all functionality?

Finally, the guys at DucatiPartsOnline say that the replacement clocks are simply plug and play, yet checking the service manual it talks extensively about reprogramming with the red key (which I have). Which is correct, and if reprogramming is required how tough is it?

Thanks in anticipation

Terry




Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: ducpainter on May 28, 2012, 07:03:38 AM
Can't answer all your questions, but it's my understanding that a new clock will be plug and play as long as it's never been 'married' to an ecu with the red key.

If you don't insert the red key, that same clock will then be usable on another bike.
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: Stuka Pilot on May 28, 2012, 07:26:57 AM
Ducpainter - thanks for that, it helps. That would possibly explain why the clocks are advertised as 'Virgin'.
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: ducpainter on May 28, 2012, 07:35:19 AM
Someone will be along with more info about replacing a lens.

You could look on ebay for clocks that have been replaced to save money over the 340 pound price. Your red key should allow you to re-program that clock.
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: stopintime on May 28, 2012, 08:03:10 AM
I was recently looking for new instruments myself and did some research.

You can find used instruments which don't work/unknown condition, but have the lens and top cover intact.
It's a pain to fit them back together with the foam seal in place and still waterproof, but it can be done.
I didn't succeed, so I'm taking them apart again - cleaning the screw receiving plastic holes - filling them with two component glue - drilling new holes for the screws to "bite". Hopefully it'll work....
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: Monstruo on May 28, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
Hi Terry,

I believe this is a known issue. Same happened to me on a 2004 S4R and I have read that it happens to many people on older models as well although doesn't seem to be always the case (that Italian engineering!).

While studying my options I came to this post about this issue: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=20161&highlight=cracked (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=20161&highlight=cracked)

I believe that, as somebody else said before, this is not a total solution. I will, most probably, replace the entire panel when the issue becomes more serious (water leaking, unreadable dials, etc), or use an aftermarket (after getting rid of the inmobilizer stuff).

Cheers,
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: Stuka Pilot on May 28, 2012, 11:53:02 AM
Thanks Monstruo - very helpful.

Reading through that thread it does seem as though it is a known issue.

Any other info from other Duc Experts would be helpful.

Thanks

Terry
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: Speeddog on May 28, 2012, 12:12:35 PM
At some point, IIRC ~2005, the instrument housing and internal parts were changed to a dis/assembleable design.
Those, you can swap your internals into another case/ swap bezels/etc.
Title: Re: S2R Clocks and Replacement - Help!
Post by: DarkStaR on May 28, 2012, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 28, 2012, 12:12:35 PM
At some point, IIRC ~2005, the instrument housing and internal parts were changed to a dis/assembleable design.
Those, you can swap your internals into another case/ swap bezels/etc.

This is true on my '05 S2R.  If I ever need to, I'd just replace the half portion of the housing containing the lenses via used/broken set of gauges.

IIRC, the clear lens them selves are glue/melted to the housing half.