Title: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: nheaney696 on May 30, 2012, 02:54:25 PM Oookkkk, so about two months ago my dearest husband took my 696 monster dark. To say he loves riding is an understatement. He has ridden her every waking moment of the day. He practically rides to the bathroom!!!! So we went to a dealership and he test rode a 796 and an 1100. He loooooovvvves the 1100. So the question is, either buy a 2012 monster 1100 w ABS for 12500. (only 2000 miles, stock) or get an 09 1100 monster for 9000 .(5500 miles, Nicky Hayden plastics..... Stock otherwise.) pros and cons? Any input would be a great help! Thx! Btw.... I have no intention of buying new. Both of these bikes are used and look to be in good working order. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Greg on May 30, 2012, 03:35:32 PM Personally I'd go for the ABS, but that's just me. Anything that will help me stop quicker in an emergency is highly beneficial to avoiding costly and painful trips to the ER.
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: wannabfast on May 30, 2012, 08:53:01 PM if you are going that old, you better make sure you get the 1100S with all the ohlins, the new ones are nice because of the abs and side exhaust, but the 09 will have the dry clutch, the hayden or rossi plastics make it look a little racier than it should be, but im sure you can swap with another unit if you asked very nicely
either way you go it will be fun but the only real difference between the 2 is the exhaust and the clutch, the 2012 evo slip ons are way cheaper than the 09, but the dry clutch will make you the envy of all of the newer monster owners i think, i would like a dry clutch, but not availible on my 796 Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Raux on May 30, 2012, 11:16:18 PM 1100S with optional ABS... [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: ungeheuer on May 31, 2012, 02:49:24 AM aaaaaaaaaargh... those prices make me ill [laugh]
buy 'em both :P Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Barney on May 31, 2012, 06:33:11 AM You may very well be able to do a little better than the 12,500 they're asking for the '12. I picked up a practically new evo for 10k...so there's that. Mine had ~1000 miles on it a little over a month ago, now it's pushing 3k [evil]
I like the the abs+traction control on the newer machine and the fully adjustable suspension if you're not looking at an 1100s. Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Raux on May 31, 2012, 06:34:55 AM true. if the 09 is not an S skip it.
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: MikeZ on May 31, 2012, 06:44:28 AM Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: El-Twin on May 31, 2012, 07:23:32 AM The 1100 EVO offers ABS, which doesn't sound like is on the '09, as well as bundling-in traction control for good measure. These features offer real value, as well as peace of mind.
I'm neither pro-nor-anti dry clutch, but the wet clutch on the EVO operates superbly. Very smooth and progressive, as well as light to the touch. Plus, it has the slipper function for hard downshifting. The 2000 miles on the EVO is just about perfect for someone looking for a used machine. The break-in period is complete at 1500 miles, and the 600-mile service is in the books. Just make sure the dealer sets the spring pre-load for your husband's weight, with him mounted-up with gear. The suspension on the EVO, while not Ohlins, is not chopped liver either. The forks are fully adjustable, and the shock offers rebound damping. Once I dialed-in my preload and damping, the difference was visceral. It was set much too hard for my weight from the factory. One last thought. The EVO lists at $11,995 MSRP. Your example is $12,500 with 2000 miles. You didn't say if that is an out-the-door price, but you could ask for a 10% discount due to the milage, and come in under $11,000.00. That should seal the deal. Good luck! Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Raux on May 31, 2012, 08:41:49 AM the '10 Monster 1100S had ABS as an option.
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: wannabfast on May 31, 2012, 04:39:14 PM The 1100 EVO offers ABS, which doesn't sound like is on the '09, as well as bundling-in traction control for good measure. These features offer real value, as well as peace of mind. the evo has abs/traction control standard Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: DucNaked on May 31, 2012, 04:49:40 PM I'd get the 09 if it's a 1100s. Love the dual spark and dry clutch. I'd probably get the 09 even if it's not a s. [Dolph]
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: SDRider on May 31, 2012, 07:09:23 PM You may very well be able to do a little better than the 12,500 they're asking for the '12. I picked up a practically new evo for 10k...so there's that. Mine had ~1000 miles on it a little over a month ago, now it's pushing 3k [evil] I like the the abs+traction control on the newer machine and the fully adjustable suspension if you're not looking at an 1100s. Agreed. You could buy a brand new 2012 EVO for 11,995 and they want you to pay more for a used one? Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: wannabfast on June 01, 2012, 08:20:40 AM as far as i know, all of the 1100's(not s) have adjustable forks the s have the ohlins, all of the other ones have the showa or marzochi adjustables
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: coffeegrinds on June 02, 2012, 06:57:58 AM I think I paid the same for a brand new 2012...
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: thought on June 02, 2012, 06:08:06 PM pre 2011 m1100's have showas, post 2011 have marzocchi
and if i were getting a 09, i'd agree with eveyrone here... S only. Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: nheaney696 on June 03, 2012, 01:54:41 PM Thanks everyone for your input! I'm smitten on to 2012. These bikes are private party sales. I know a new 1100 is $11995 but at a dealer you got tax, doc and all those other fees that involve getting it otd I'm hesitant to buy a new duck because of break in and maintenance. I live in northern Arizona, the dealer is in phoenix, and I'm no ducati tech. And I've never bought anything new!!!! I'm planning on offering a cash deal and hope the seller will negotiate. Thank you dmf'ers!!!!! [bow_down] [thumbsup] pics to follow soon! ( hopefully)
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: El-Twin on June 04, 2012, 05:53:14 AM I know a new 1100 is $11995 but at a dealer you got tax, doc and all those other fees that involve getting it otd Don't forget that, even with a private sale, you will still have to pay your local sales tax which could add another $1100-$1200 in Flagstaff, if I read the tax tables correctly. Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: thought on June 04, 2012, 06:07:53 AM Don't forget that, even with a private sale, you will still have to pay your local sales tax which could add another $1100-$1200 in Flagstaff, if I read the tax tables correctly. You can reduce it a bit but fudging the number on the bill of sale but if it's too low the dmv will check the blue book price on the bike and charge you that. If I were you I would check out how much it would be to buy it brand new and negotiate from there with the private seller. Asking for MSRP on a bike with 2000 miles on it and bone stock is a bit crazy imo. Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: El-Twin on June 04, 2012, 06:43:17 AM You can reduce it a bit but fudging the number on the bill of sale but if it's too low the dmv will check the blue book price on the bike and charge you that. If I were you I would check out how much it would be to buy it brand new and negotiate from there with the private seller. Asking for MSRP on a bike with 2000 miles on it and bone stock is a bit crazy imo. ^^ +1 [thumbsup] Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: polivo on June 04, 2012, 01:45:36 PM ^^ +1 [thumbsup] i agree. thats a bit high. Tell him your interested, but need to do some more "research". Call him in a week, im willing to bet he still has the bike.. and is likely more negotiable now. Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: nheaney696 on June 04, 2012, 03:51:01 PM I'm located in cottonwood. Bought a couple of cars & motos private party and never heard of paying sales tax.?????
Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Full_Spectrum on June 04, 2012, 05:38:56 PM I would go for the 2009. Leave some money for mods...
And it has a dry clutch. Youll thank me later. [thumbsup] Title: Re: 2009 1100 monster or 2012 1100 abs monster? Post by: Greg on June 04, 2012, 07:15:52 PM I'm located in cottonwood. Bought a couple of cars & motos private party and never heard of paying sales tax.????? I don't know how it's done there, but in Texas when you register the bike, they tax you on the book value of the vehicle. |