Title: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 08:05:09 AM Just wondering what this part is? and can I move it out of this awkward spot on the outside of the frame? I pulled the carbon side pieces off of my old m750 and I def dont remember this part being here... maybe its an emissions part as my last bike was in texas and this one nyc?
(sorry for the crappy phone pic) (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/rsoffar/photo-3.jpg) Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: seanster on June 18, 2012, 08:14:19 AM ignition coil maybe?..you can tell i don't know much. [bang]
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: ducatiz on June 18, 2012, 08:15:45 AM definitely a coil and that's not where they are originally. weird choice.
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: Slide Panda on June 18, 2012, 08:26:32 AM That's the mount spot the M900 uses as on the 900 the ECU occupies the space that the coils do on the 750.
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: ducatiz on June 18, 2012, 08:27:26 AM That's the mount spot the M900 uses as on the 900 the ECU occupies the space that the coils do on the 750. you're kidding me. outisde the frame? Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 08:32:39 AM thanks guys. this thing needs to be moved inside the frame somehow haha so i guess Ill add that to my to do list while I have her all torn down. If anyone has moved this on their bike feel free to share what ya did and where it went, I feel like Im going to be thinking about this all day at work [coffee]
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: Slide Panda on June 18, 2012, 08:43:39 AM you're kidding me. outisde the frame? I do not kid. That's where it is, behind one of the side pods. The other hovers just outside the frame up by the airbox. This is a 750 yeah, so it's Carb'd... so you should be able to put it back in it's original position which is between the air box and battery. Diagrams! http://www.ducatiomaha.com/products.asp (http://www.ducatiomaha.com/products.asp) Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 08:48:11 AM I do not kid. That's where it is, behind one of the side pods. The other hovers just outside the frame up by the airbox. This is a 750 yeah, so it's Carb'd... so you should be able to put it back in it's original position which is between the air box and battery. Diagrams! http://www.ducatiomaha.com/products.asp (http://www.ducatiomaha.com/products.asp) sorry I didnt clarify, my old bike was the 750 that didnt have this here, this is my new 900 and its fi Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: Slide Panda on June 18, 2012, 08:54:32 AM Ah ha... yes now that I look more closely - it's a 2000 900S - I see the Ohlins reservoir there.
Well, you can free up some space by doing away with the oil vapor catch box - the black above the coil in your photo and running a hose right from the breather to the air box. As you might expect that box is there to catch condense oil vapor. Bypassing it means you might get some oil in the air box, and some in the combustion mix. Or you could swap to a filter connected to the breather and disconnect it from the air box - though there's a lot of debate on this point that you can look up. But those are a couple ways to make space right there the would allow you to move that coil. Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: bdub on June 18, 2012, 10:41:50 AM Mine's been hanging out there for over 4 years. Why move it? Except maybe to not have stuff hanging on the frame.
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: seanster on June 18, 2012, 11:08:09 AM I don't think you NEED to move it if you have the side covers on...
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: bdub on June 18, 2012, 11:33:51 AM No side covers, Where elese could it go? Does hanging out in the open help keep it cool or anything weid like that?
Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 11:41:34 AM Mine's been hanging out there for over 4 years. Why move it? Except maybe to not have stuff hanging on the frame. Well its definitely a purely cosmetic issue for me, I prefer to have the side covers off like the look of seeing all the frame and with this part staying here it kinda defeats the purpose so in my eyes it is a NEED to move it, I wont be happy till it happens haha. It would be a shame doing all this work cleaning up the bike and rerouting all the wires to keep this piece in its current location. I wouldnt guess its position has anything to do with keeping it cool as its been mentioned the ones on the other models are under the tank Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: seanster on June 18, 2012, 12:07:56 PM No side covers, Where elese could it go? Does hanging out in the open help keep it cool or anything weid like that? Like said...between the battery and the airbox (right under the tank). I have the side covers from the M750 if interested we can work out something. I do see the mounted tabs for the covers. Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 12:31:42 PM Like said...between the battery and the airbox (right under the tank). I have the side covers from the M750 if interested we can work out something. I do see the mounted tabs for the covers. apparently on our 900's the ecu takes up the spot between the battery and airbox that these usually would go according to slide panda. ps on the covers that came on my bike they had a big bulge in them that was different from the covers that were on my 750 when i had it so maybe someone else can chime in here but it wouldnt surprise me if the covers from a 750 would not fit over this on a 900 Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 12:38:51 PM I do see the mounted tabs for the covers. those are coming off... along with as many other mounting tabs i can get rid of on the frame [evil] Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: Slide Panda on June 18, 2012, 12:54:34 PM Big bulge? On the right side one only? If so that was to make space for the emissions canister. The pods are a universal item so you could swap. Or you can track down 'euro' pods that didn't have to accommodate an emissions can
To make space you could get a LiFPO battery. They are a lot smaller and could free up room under the tank. But without some sort of efforts the coils won't fit under there. As I mentioned the ECU is mounted where the coils on a carby are Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 01:00:43 PM Big bulge? On the right side one only? If so that was to make space for the emissions canister. ahh maybe it was only on one side... havent had them on in a whilleee, not a big fan. Im in the process of pulling the frame off and cleaning up wire routing and cutting off extra tabs (such as the side cover tabs) so I will post up some pics of however i end up moving this coil and where to when i get at it. Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: monsterjoe on June 18, 2012, 06:15:11 PM definitely a coil and that's not where they are originally. weird choice. i have it in my bike too, exactly there, i want to take off these pods...where do you guys relocate it? Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: Roaduser on June 18, 2012, 06:54:16 PM i mounted it between the battery and air box as said above. if you trim the casing back a little on the loom, the leads are long enough, so there is no need for anything but making it mount nice and secure.
if your in the mood to tidy up frame hangings, while making a mount for your coils, make a mount up there for the starter solinoid too. its the black round thing on the right side of the frame just a little rearward of the throttle bodies. then buy some appropriate guage cable and re do the starter motor cable. your bike will start better and look much nicer on the right hand side. run the wire from battery positive to solinoid and then run it down the left side of the motor with the alternator and crank angle sensor wires (front side of the left engine case) then under the horizontal cylinder to the starter motor. not as hard as it may sound from my wording, but it is worth while! while your there, its also easy to extend the oil temp sensor (right side of motor below the oil level window) wire and run it forward towards the starter and then run it up with the starter wire et al and you have a nice neat single loom running all the lower electricals on your motor!! will make a world of difference in your own eyes! and in reality, this is the way the engines should have been wired imo. Title: Re: whats this part? Post by: rsoffar on June 18, 2012, 08:43:55 PM i mounted it between the battery and air box as said above. if you trim the casing back a little on the loom, the leads are long enough, so there is no need for anything but making it mount nice and secure. if your in the mood to tidy up frame hangings, while making a mount for your coils, make a mount up there for the starter solinoid too. its the black round thing on the right side of the frame just a little rearward of the throttle bodies. then buy some appropriate guage cable and re do the starter motor cable. your bike will start better and look much nicer on the right hand side. run the wire from battery positive to solinoid and then run it down the left side of the motor with the alternator and crank angle sensor wires (front side of the left engine case) then under the horizontal cylinder to the starter motor. not as hard as it may sound from my wording, but it is worth while! while your there, its also easy to extend the oil temp sensor (right side of motor below the oil level window) wire and run it forward towards the starter and then run it up with the starter wire et al and you have a nice neat single loom running all the lower electricals on your motor!! will make a world of difference in your own eyes! and in reality, this is the way the engines should have been wired imo. [beer] thanks! I will def have to read this again as Im looking at the bike tomorrow ha |