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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 07:38:02 AM

Title: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 07:38:02 AM
I was looking at MonsterParts and they have belts for $79 ExactFit, not sure if they are kevlar. Are these any good or am I better off with $120 OEM? I cant find the OEM any cheaper. Any ideas?

Thank You
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: ducatiz on June 25, 2012, 07:44:18 AM
ExactFit belts are very good belts.

Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: Slide Panda on June 25, 2012, 07:56:31 AM
The exact fit belts will do you well. They are as good or better than the OEM ones, so fear not!
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 08:02:05 AM
thanks I will order them today. Any input on valve shims.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: LP on June 25, 2012, 08:05:28 AM
http://www.emsduc.com/products.html (http://www.emsduc.com/products.html)
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: ducatiz on June 25, 2012, 08:06:21 AM
Quote from: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 08:02:05 AM
thanks I will order them today. Any input on valve shims.

i have an EMS kit from 10 years back.  you can buy individual ones from a dealer.  if you have the measuring tools and a micrometer you just measure and can order the ones you need.  keep the old ones after measuring them.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: LP on June 25, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
I found it very helpful to purchase the closer measurement tool from Mike at EMS and then order my shims from him.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 08:26:07 AM
Thanks guys I think I will just order the measuring tools and order the ones I need for now.  "keep the old ones after measuring them" Can I use them later?
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: ducatiz on June 25, 2012, 08:27:38 AM
generally, they don't get pounded out so yes, you can reuse them.  sometimes you'll need to clean them up with brillo.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 09:04:44 AM
Thanks good to know.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: xsephirot on June 25, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/tb800 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/tb800) ?? Is there a reason why ca-cycleworks is so much cheaper?
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: dark_duc on June 25, 2012, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: xsephirot on June 25, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/tb800 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/tb800) ?? Is there a reason why ca-cycleworks is so much cheaper?

That price is per belt   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: motoxmann on June 25, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: LP on June 25, 2012, 08:11:13 AM
I found it very helpful to purchase the closer measurement tool from Mike at EMS and then order my shims from him.

x2, thats what I did as well
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
What other special tools will I need for the job. I did order a torque wrench and have two full sets of craftsman metric sockets and wrenches of course.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: ducatiz on June 25, 2012, 10:28:45 PM
beer
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 06:11:57 AM
The beer fridge is never out of New Belgium Brewery's Fat Tire. That was condition of my marriage. She keeps it full and ice cold. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: ducatiz on June 26, 2012, 06:15:30 AM
The only thing I might add is a grease pencil.  I mark everything before removing the belts because I am paranoid.  I have two young kids and get distracted easily (DON'T TOUCH THAT!!!!) and marking everything with grease pencil helps me remember where/what/how.  The marks on the pulleys and head can be elusive.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 06:26:30 AM
Good info I don't have one. Will do.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: LP on June 26, 2012, 07:25:44 AM
Quote from: BerettaMato on June 25, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
What other special tools will I need for the job. I did order a torque wrench and have two full sets of craftsman metric sockets and wrenches of course.

Feeler gauges http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/tl-1012 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/tl-1012) (or local hardware/auto store)

A Crankshaft turning tool is very helpful http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/35-5955 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/products/garage-accessories/35-5955)

The rocker arm depressor tool from EMS is something I wish I had, but I also was working with MBP collets

8mm allen key to hold open the closer is also nice

Buying a new set of gaskets is never a bad idea http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ca-cycleworks-fiber-valve-cover-gaskets (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ca-cycleworks-fiber-valve-cover-gaskets)

And might as well throw in one of these http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ca-cycleworks-viton-small-engine-cover-o-ring (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ca-cycleworks-viton-small-engine-cover-o-ring)

Take your time, work clean and organized, and sand shims on a mirror for a flat surface.

LT Snyder's book is a helpful resource and check out http://ducatitech.com/2v/maint/adjust/index.html (http://ducatitech.com/2v/maint/adjust/index.html) there is also a video on there somewhere

Have fun with this! It is by far the most rewarding maintenance work I have done on my bike  [Dolph]
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 07:33:42 AM
Thank you I have the feeler, will order the gaskets and o-ring. I have a Haynes manual but I might get the other one as well. That crank tool is pricey :(
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: LP on June 26, 2012, 07:38:58 AM
Lt's is sooo much better than the haynes IMO

Crank tool is spendy, maybe you can find a loaner? I thought I saw a thread about that here??
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 07:43:18 AM
Ya i am trying to build a Ducati tool box that all the guys around here can barrow. just cant afford to get them all at once lol.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 07:50:19 AM
Think i am going to by this one.

http://www.mbsmfg.com/duentuto.html (http://www.mbsmfg.com/duentuto.html)
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: Slide Panda on June 26, 2012, 08:13:21 AM
I've got a similar one and they work well. Just put a wrench or socket on it et voila!
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BK_856er on June 26, 2012, 10:18:15 AM
Same price, more purdier:

http://www.motomfg.com/Crank_shaft_turning_tool_for_Ducati_s_p/et-1.htm (http://www.motomfg.com/Crank_shaft_turning_tool_for_Ducati_s_p/et-1.htm)

I have some motomfg tools and like them.

I ultimately got the DSS crank tool because I preferred the overall design.

BK
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: Slide Panda on June 26, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
^ That is the one I have. I've got a couple of their fork cap wrenches and the axle drift. That last one was a bit of a plurge, but the damn that thing has been handy. I've used it a lot. Found it really handy
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: dark_duc on June 26, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
Got mine from good 'ol monsterparts:  http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ET-1/MAINT-TOOLS/ET-1.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ET-1/MAINT-TOOLS/ET-1.html)

I also agree with picking up LT's book...very well done!
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: BerettaMato on June 26, 2012, 11:23:18 AM
My shopping list with them is getting bigger and bigger MonsterParts for the win.
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: Slide Panda on June 26, 2012, 11:27:04 AM
Here's the drift.. you know you want it

http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/AD-1/MAINT-TOOLS/AD-1.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/AD-1/MAINT-TOOLS/AD-1.html)
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: thought on June 26, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
http://www.ducatitoolrental.com (http://www.ducatitoolrental.com)

this will prob save you a lot of hassle in terms of tools unless you're dead set on having them all from the start.

I'm planning on renting from them to do my own service pretty soon
Title: Re: Timing Belts
Post by: showerfan on June 26, 2012, 09:00:57 PM
what an awesome resource! is the LT book like this too?