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Title: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 06, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
FP1
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   288.6   1'22.357   
2   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   287.2   1'22.444   0.087 / 0.087
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   284.7   1'22.647   0.290 / 0.203
4   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   286.5   1'22.922   0.565 / 0.275
5   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   285.0   1'23.081   0.724 / 0.159
6   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   285.6   1'23.091   0.734 / 0.010
7   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   283.6   1'23.092   0.735 / 0.001
8   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   287.0   1'23.203   0.846 / 0.111
9   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   289.2   1'23.306   0.949 / 0.103
10   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   284.4   1'23.353   0.996 / 0.047
11   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   282.2   1'23.481   1.124 / 0.128
12   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   269.3   1'24.210   1.853 / 0.729
13   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   271.8   1'24.560   2.203 / 0.350
14   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   270.7   1'24.659   2.302 / 0.099
15   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   266.3   1'24.786   2.429 / 0.127
16   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   268.1   1'24.855   2.498 / 0.069
17   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   268.7   1'25.512   3.155 / 0.657
18   2   Franco BATTAINI   ITA   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   280.4   1'25.646   3.289 / 0.134
19   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   263.2   1'25.839   3.482 / 0.193
20   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   256.7   1'25.958   3.601 / 0.119
21   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   269.1   1'26.183   3.826 / 0.225


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 PM
FP2
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   272.1   1'32.228   
2   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   268.1   1'32.304   0.076 / 0.076
3   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   275.4   1'32.327   0.099 / 0.023
4   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   267.2   1'32.408   0.180 / 0.081
5   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   273.1   1'32.532   0.304 / 0.124
6   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   272.7   1'32.657   0.429 / 0.125
7   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   273.2   1'32.744   0.516 / 0.087
8   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   275.9   1'32.817   0.589 / 0.073
9   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   272.2   1'33.107   0.879 / 0.290
10   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   272.9   1'33.147   0.919 / 0.040
11   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   267.9   1'33.227   0.999 / 0.080
12   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   249.2   1'34.894   2.666 / 1.667
13   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   261.1   1'34.910   2.682 / 0.016
14   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   251.4   1'34.946   2.718 / 0.036
15   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   261.5   1'35.204   2.976 / 0.258
16   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   251.5   1'35.311   3.083 / 0.107
17   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   250.5   1'35.355   3.127 / 0.044
18   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   259.3   1'35.461   3.233 / 0.106
19   2   Franco BATTAINI   ITA   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   266.1   1'36.019   3.791 / 0.558
20   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   257.3   1'36.800   4.572 / 0.781
   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   231.0   1'43.245   11.017 / 6.445


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 07, 2012, 03:19:17 PM
FP3
1   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   263.9   1'30.692   
2   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   257.2   1'31.659   0.967 / 0.967
3   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   271.8   1'33.132   2.440 / 1.473
4   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   274.9   1'33.301   2.609 / 0.169
5   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   273.8   1'33.302   2.610 / 0.001
6   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   274.5   1'33.597   2.905 / 0.295
7   2   Franco BATTAINI   ITA   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   266.4   1'33.607   2.915 / 0.010
8   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   272.0   1'33.658   2.966 / 0.051
9   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   270.9   1'34.693   4.001 / 1.035
10   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   262.1   1'34.761   4.069 / 0.068
11   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   250.6   1'35.006   4.314 / 0.245
12   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   258.5   1'35.271   4.579 / 0.265
13   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   258.3   1'35.847   5.155 / 0.576
14   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   248.8   1'36.436   5.744 / 0.589
15   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   259.1   1'36.970   6.278 / 0.534
   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   244.0   1'41.025   10.333 / 4.055
   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   245.8   1'41.146   10.454 / 0.121
   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   254.8   1'42.117   11.425 / 0.971
   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda         
   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha         
   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 07, 2012, 03:21:04 PM
Qualifying
1   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   271.2   1'31.796   
2   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   276.6   1'31.989   0.193 / 0.193
3   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   271.0   1'32.081   0.285 / 0.092
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   273.8   1'32.288   0.492 / 0.207
5   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   276.4   1'32.381   0.585 / 0.093
6   6   Stefan BRADL   GER   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   269.7   1'32.510   0.714 / 0.129
7   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   272.7   1'32.795   0.999 / 0.285
8   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   272.8   1'33.205   1.409 / 0.410
9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   273.1   1'33.217   1.421 / 0.012
10   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   263.5   1'33.900   2.104 / 0.683
11   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   260.7   1'34.088   2.292 / 0.188
12   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   263.5   1'34.542   2.746 / 0.454
13   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   NGM Mobile Forward Racing   Suter   252.8   1'34.649   2.853 / 0.107
14   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Power Electronics Aspar   ART   259.6   1'34.651   2.855 / 0.002
15   54   Mattia PASINI   ITA   Speed Master   ART   256.6   1'34.938   3.142 / 0.287
16   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Came IodaRacing Project   Ioda   250.1   1'35.590   3.794 / 0.652
17   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   FTR   257.8   1'35.595   3.799 / 0.005
18   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Avintia Blusens   BQR   259.1   1'35.962   4.166 / 0.367
19   22   Ivan SILVA   SPA   Avintia Blusens   BQR   256.4   1'36.183   4.387 / 0.221
20   77   James ELLISON   GBR   Paul Bird Motorsport   ART   253.7   1'36.355   4.559 / 0.172
21   2   Franco BATTAINI   ITA   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   254.1   1'36.438   4.642 / 0.083


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: koko64 on July 07, 2012, 06:27:37 PM
Americans doing well, including that half Aussie, our Colin!  ;D


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: Raux on July 07, 2012, 06:43:52 PM
I think it's awesome that Hayden continues to be the quickest on the Duc.



Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: Raux on July 07, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
and holy crap  :o that Aprilia is going to get itself upgraded to full MotoGP if it keeps that up.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 08, 2012, 02:39:01 AM
I'd like to see Colin beat Rossi, I know there isn't a chance in hell but it would nice


Title: Re: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on July 08, 2012, 05:19:14 AM
Good race! Nice battles for 1st, 3rd, and 5th.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Architect on July 08, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
Casey, Casey, Casey...................


So close.




Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: ute on July 08, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
wow Casey from hero to zero ..thats an OH SNAP moment

but you gotta give him props for trying instead of playing safe ...but crap if you had played safe you would have been first ...now you have the 2 idiots ahead of you


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: lazylightnin717 on July 08, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
That was painful watching Crutchlow/Spies get held up by the Dovi at the end. Which brings me to my next point and I have to say this. I can't stand watching Dovi race. For some reason, he is just flat out boring to watch and I'm going to be pissed when he take Ben's factory ride.

Today pretty much secured the Turd for next year no?

Rossi battling with the rookie... Come on Ducati  [roll]


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: MadDuck on July 08, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
IMO Dovi has been underrated. He's got some stuff, more than Ben so far for sure and Ben is no slouch.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: thought on July 08, 2012, 10:21:27 PM
Did Casey lose it because it had just started to rain or was it because of just pushing too hard?  They showed the rain literally 2 seconds after of him going down.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: The Don on July 08, 2012, 11:40:45 PM
No not the rain, but unloading the front as he let the brake off


Title: Re: Re: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on July 09, 2012, 03:52:23 AM
Did Casey lose it because it had just started to rain or was it because of just pushing too hard?  They showed the rain literally 2 seconds after of him going down.

2 drops fell on the front straight. It was definitely not rain related. Even Casey will not blame the rain on that one.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: wantingaduc on July 09, 2012, 06:15:31 AM
Considering the "moment" he had a lap or 2 before, I would have really thought he had enough sense to back down and take the second.
He retiring, it would have put him into teh leada nd even on wins. Why race to bet Smurfy Von Dbag, who will now had his yearly race win.
Damn Casey, put your season before your ego...

jimi


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: derby on July 09, 2012, 06:37:51 AM
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/181737/1/stoner_win_or_bin_one_turn_early_slams_marshals.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/181737/1/stoner_win_or_bin_one_turn_early_slams_marshals.html)

“I'm pretty disappointed, I had planned to go for my 'win or bin' effort in the last corner, not that one!” said Stoner with a wry smile.

“I was comfortable for the whole race and felt we had a few tenths a lap over Dani.

“Then on the final lap I made a small mistake going into the first turn and knew I couldn't pass at the bottom of the hill [where he went on to crash].

“I basically just wanted to turn the bike underneath and get a good run going into the final turn, where I was confident I could make the pass.

“But as soon as I went to turn the bike in a little bit harder, the front just went away from me and it was 'game over'.”




Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on July 09, 2012, 06:47:48 AM
Considering the "moment" he had a lap or 2 before, I would have really thought he had enough sense to back down and take the second.
He retiring, it would have put him into teh leada nd even on wins. Why race to bet Smurfy Von Dbag, who will now had his yearly race win.
Damn Casey, put your season before your ego...

jimi

I actually like that he's ALWAYS balls out and trying to win races. I like it when guys don't settle for 2nd. This is what makes him great. Not smart if you're looking at the championship side, but you always know that you will get 100% effort from Casey.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on July 09, 2012, 06:53:58 AM
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/181737/1/stoner_win_or_bin_one_turn_early_slams_marshals.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/181737/1/stoner_win_or_bin_one_turn_early_slams_marshals.html)


And this is what I dislike about Stoner. You're in a freaking gravel pit and you complain the marshalls didn't want to help push you out of the sandbox?  [roll]


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: brix821 on July 09, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
man, Espargaro's save was crazy!


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 09, 2012, 02:17:44 PM
And this is what I dislike about Stoner. You're in a freaking gravel pit and you complain the marshalls didn't want to help push you out of the sandbox?  [roll]

Out of the sandbox. Onto the racing line. In the middle of a race. So you could get what... One point?


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: lazylightnin717 on July 09, 2012, 02:56:02 PM
Out of the sandbox. Onto the racing line. On the last lap of the race when everybody is going balls to the wall. So you could get what... One point?

fixed


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: ab on July 09, 2012, 05:38:58 PM
Really sucks that Stoner crashed with only 2 (or 4) corners left on last lap.

But I am really happy for DOVI!  He is awesome rider.  Hope either him or Rossi take Ben's bike.  I realize  BBC commentators are obviously for Cal but they really need to give credit to Dovi instead of the BS about him holding Cal up.  I call BS on that.

That Bradl (Germany) is really doing amazing ranking.  I don't like his riding style just like I don't  like Lorenzo's riding style but it's impressive results.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: tufty on July 09, 2012, 07:08:59 PM
I realize  BBC commentators are obviously for Cal but they really need to give credit to Dovi instead of the BS about him holding Cal up.


Maybe, but from where I was sitting everytime they showed footage looking back at Cal from Dovi, Cal was running up on him in the corners. Nothing against Dovi, but one of his major skills is knowing how to make himself as wide as possible.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: OT on July 09, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
He's the one that crashes the bike, but it's the marshalls' fault he lost points...?

"I've seen them pick up loads of different riders and get going and there was nothing wrong with my bike, but there was no way they were going to help me."

Good bye and good riddance, psycho boy....don't wait up too late for the Nobel Prize Committee's telephone call


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: DanTheMan on July 09, 2012, 08:51:39 PM
Has anyone here worked as a corner worker during a GP event, do they have any specific instruction in in an instance like this? OR if your directly in the impact zone, clear asap?


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: lazylightnin717 on July 10, 2012, 04:14:36 AM
But I am really happy for DOVI!  He is awesome rider.  Hope either him or Rossi take Ben's bike.  I realize  BBC commentators are obviously for Cal but they really need to give credit to Dovi instead of the BS about him holding Cal up.  I call BS on that.

It was pretty obvious towards the end of the race that Dovi was holding up both Cal and Ben. The only reason they didn't get past him was because of the slow, tight turn nature of the track and his ability to hold the racing line without fault.

I'd say that Dovi's strongest racing attribute is his ability to keep others from passing. He is good and consistent but still boring to watch IMO


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: Grampa on July 10, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Again......moto3 delivers.


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: ab on July 11, 2012, 01:58:07 PM
Hold up Cal from crashing :-)


Title: Re: Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland Round 8 Spoilers
Post by: ZLTFUL on July 11, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
Has anyone here worked as a corner worker during a GP event, do they have any specific instruction in in an instance like this? OR if your directly in the impact zone, clear asap?

The first and foremost priority (redundant for a reason) is the safety of the rider that crashed, the riders still out on course and the safety crew/medical workers/corner workers.
Most likely, the marshals were not willing to help get his bike back on track because literally the vast majority of the pack was coming into and through that turn and to do so would have put Casey and the other riders in danger.

Fact is, the ONLY thing they are required to do is the clear the impact zone and verify the health of the rider and assess any medical needs. They help get riders back going usually out of simple kindness. They aren't required to help a rider get back on track.


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