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Moto Board => Riding Techniques => Topic started by: Slide Panda on July 09, 2012, 08:15:38 AM

Title: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: Slide Panda on July 09, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
ZX-10R Motorcycle Crash 6/24/12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxL5S22_tMw#)

Reportedly rider was uninjured. Guessing the grace of god(s), aliens, tribbles (hmm those are aliens) saved his hide.
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: rsoffar on July 11, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
so did this happen because he put his hand down or was he already going down anyways? I dont see anything really looking like he was going down till he pulled off his inside hand and the bike tried to stand up...
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: stopintime on July 11, 2012, 01:29:37 PM
Oooh - I think he deserved a save after that  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: Triple J on July 11, 2012, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: rsoffar on July 11, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
so did this happen because he put his hand down or was he already going down anyways? I dont see anything really looking like he was going down till he pulled off his inside hand and the bike tried to stand up...

Looked to me like it happened because he put his hand down, which created unbalanced pressure on the bars, making his problem worse. There's no reason to crash otherwise, as his little wobble wasn't a big deal.

You can remove your outside hand from the bars in full lean if you're planning on it...but unexpectedly removing the inside hand is asking for trouble.
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: cokey on July 11, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
His peg/foot dragged/rubbed the floor.. he jerked a bit n put his down anticipating a slide it seems..
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: Ducatamount on July 11, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
He lost his front end and then "instinctively" put his hand down.
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: Triple J on July 11, 2012, 03:50:18 PM
I didn't mean his hand started the whole thing. He had a wobble before...putting his hand down just sealed the deal.
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: cokey on July 11, 2012, 04:01:31 PM
Wonder how that felt in the morning. 
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: rsoffar on July 11, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
Looked like his shoe got caught up pretty good between the rearset and road, surprised he went without injury
Title: Re: How *not* to prevent a crash
Post by: Slide Panda on July 12, 2012, 06:55:21 AM
Quote from: rsoffar on July 11, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
Looked like his shoe got caught up pretty good between the rearset and road, surprised he went without injury

There is injured and there's hurt. He's lucky he wasn't injured - but I'm sure he was hurt the next day.

My read - he touched down the peg or other hard part and panicked. His panic reaction was, for whatever reason, to remove his hand from the bar. As a result he wasn't able to do a couple things that would have prevented the crash
1) More throttle - controlled addition of throttle would lift the bike suspension and tend to right right the bike
2) Use bars to right the bike - He had plenty of road on his side of the the dbl yellow and was nearing the exit of the turn.

He could have saved it. bike never lost traction - you can see in the slow mo version that the bike quite happily rights itself and might well have made it he'd actually fallen off.