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Title: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 13, 2012, 10:59:29 AM
I'm riding a 97' monster 600 and after driving my friends 01' monster 600 I noticed a big difference in the way the engine runs. His was running smooth all the time whilst mine surges and missfires a bit, not much but you could definitely feel the difference.  I'm suspecting my ignition coils are bad since the previous owner had them replaced with some cheap copy, or should the difference be this big, is there any changes between the two engines?

I have a 900 supersport 99' with original coils, is it possible to use them on my monster to see if it makes an improvement?


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: koko64 on July 13, 2012, 11:22:19 AM
What kind of aftermarket coil is on your 600?


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: Howie on July 13, 2012, 11:34:06 AM
Though I doubt it makes a difference in smooth running, your '97 has the old "Pantah" engine, biggest notable differences are different oiling and cooling fins, clutch slave (yours is integral with the side cover) and belt covers. 

There are a lot of possible causes for your surging and misfire.  When was the bike last serviced?

If your Super Sport is carbed the coils should be the same.  +1 0n koko's question. 


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: ducatigirl100 on July 13, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
I've put some Ca-cyclework ignition coil's on mine and I noticed a really big difference  :o!!  [thumbsup] it's a lot smoother now


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 13, 2012, 11:40:36 AM
That I do not know... But I think it is bought at a local hardwarestore for cars.. So it's some general ignition coil made to fit most... The more I think about it the more suspicious I grow.

The supersport is fuel injected.

I was thinking about the Ca-cycleworks but as I live in Sweden the shipping is expensive and the customs even more so.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 13, 2012, 11:44:22 AM
Though I doubt it makes a difference in smooth running, your '97 has the old "Pantah" engine, biggest notable differences are different oiling and cooling fins, clutch slave (yours is integral with the side cover) and belt covers. 

There are a lot of possible causes for your surging and misfire.  When was the bike last serviced?


Mine is fully serviced just a couple of months ago and since that I've installed K&N podfilters and factory pro jet kit with little to no improvement.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: ducatiz on July 13, 2012, 12:09:27 PM
PM me your address and postage and I'll send you a set of coils from my 600SS that I took off.  They work fine, I upgraded to dynas on that bike.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: koko64 on July 13, 2012, 08:26:39 PM
PM me your address and postage and I'll send you a set of coils from my 600SS that I took off.  They work fine, I upgraded to dynas on that bike.

 [thumbsup]

I love this forum.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 14, 2012, 12:19:48 AM
[thumbsup]

I love this forum.
:D


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: ducatiz on July 15, 2012, 11:31:35 AM
On the next boat to Sweden:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/00_main/IMG_20120715_145150.jpg)


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: Lieutenant Dan on July 15, 2012, 11:46:32 AM
I, too, am suspecting a potential issue with my coils. Any way for me to test and see if mine are in good condition or if they need to be replaced? I've got an 07M695


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 16, 2012, 01:35:12 AM
These are what mine look right now, with no specs from the producer :P http://www.biltema.se/ProductImages/53/large/53-403_l.jpg (http://www.biltema.se/ProductImages/53/large/53-403_l.jpg)

C11Gidasi
You can measure the primary and secondary coil resistances. I cannot supply you with the specified readings you should have tough because you monster is fuel injected.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: Nottsbiker on July 16, 2012, 04:33:51 AM
PM me your address and postage and I'll send you a set of coils from my 600SS that I took off.  They work fine, I upgraded to dynas on that bike.

My whole Monster is in bits and requiring a costly rebuild / mod package - would you pop over to the UK and sort it for me?  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: Raux on July 16, 2012, 04:38:10 AM
My whole Monster is in bits and requiring a costly rebuild / mod package - would you pop over to the UK and sort it for me?  [thumbsup]

hmmm.. .give me your budget and parts, and I will do it for you... looking for a new project.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: dlearl476 on July 17, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
My whole Monster is in bits and requiring a costly rebuild / mod package - would you pop over to the UK and sort it for me?  [thumbsup]
What, and cheat you out if the satisfaction of a job well done?


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: Nottsbiker on July 18, 2012, 04:06:55 AM
Haha! Didnt actually expect sensible responses  [thumbsup]

Still you are correct that I do enjoy the whole process of the build, only issue is we are rennovating our house (completely) so all my spare money (should) go onto the house first.

Still keep my eye on ebay for the odd bargain, and have picked up a new JE 944 kit for £180 recently and today the postman brought me some CBR400RR rear passenger pegs (the fold outta the way ones) for me to see if I can hide up under my rear subframe some how. Sepetember will see me start a level 1 welding course at college as this is one skill I'm embarassed to say I dont have, even worse as my old man is a coded welder and did MOD contracts before he retired.


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 23, 2012, 09:03:38 AM
Got them in the mail today  ;D
trying them out in the morrow (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/67/dsc0083sx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/dsc0083sx.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: battlecry on July 23, 2012, 09:59:26 AM
Have you guys ruled out bad wires?


Title: Re: Ignition coils.
Post by: sjostedt on July 23, 2012, 10:51:11 AM
Have you guys ruled out bad wires?

I've already replaced the ignition caps and wires with no improvement


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