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Title: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: carbmon on August 01, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
Would like to confirm without a bunch of trial and error that my '01 M750 Dark (carbs, electronic tach, mechanical speedo) does NOT have any immobilizer.

Can anyone confirm that or explain what to look for to determine for sure?

Thanks In Advance!
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: seanster on August 01, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
I will take the hit first to confirm....NO you don't have immobilizer...haha and of course correct me (anyone) if I'm stupid.

Another way to test is disconnect the big lum (pig tail behind your dash) and try to start the bike and see what happen.  If you have immobilizer then, they bike won't start and vice versa.

Per your signature line...I want to see pics of your bike Al... [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: roadkillrob on August 01, 2012, 03:00:53 PM
Best way I know to tell on the newer ones with the immobilizer is to take the plastic cover/surround off around the key and turn it over, it will have  a wire that runs up and around the hole the key barrel fit through and that is what picks up the key signal to know you are using a chip key.  Just the 2 nuts you need to take off on either side of the ignition switch to find out.
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: motoxmann on August 01, 2012, 04:23:47 PM
No, your bike definitely does not have an immobilizer
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 01, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Only bikes with and ECU have an immobilizer - with no computer you don't have an immobilizer.
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: carbmon on August 01, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
OK, no immobilizer - even though it has electronic modules that include the timing advance map, and commonly referred to as "ECUs".

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: motoxmann on August 01, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
Ecu = engine control unit. Because it reads multiple different engine sensors and operates all engine functions; ignition and fuel, according to all different sensors. It also usually operates guages and indicator lights, and other things. Its a complete computer brain with tens, or sometimes hundreds, of different functions. tens of thousands of functions when it comes to cars.

Your bike has ignition modules. The only thing they do is control ignition timing, and only according to 1 single variable: rpm, read from only 1 sensor: pickup coil.

Anyone who calls an ignition module an ecu is flat out wrong

(sorry if the above sounds rude, but it's true, and it irks me)
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: carbmon on August 01, 2012, 07:42:15 PM
motoxmann - Thanks for the clarification and please accept my apology for the irk.

:-[

Have a cold adult beverage of your choice on me.

I'm just glad I don't have an immobilizer, so make that a double !

;)

[beer]
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: motoxmann on August 01, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
haha cheers mate! (I'm not australian lol) [beer] already started  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 02, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: carbmon on August 01, 2012, 07:42:15 PM
motoxmann - Thanks for the clarification and please accept my apology for the irk.


At least you haven't talked about issues your 'breaks' not 'breaking'

Even some Monsters with an ECU don't have the immobilizer. For instance my 2000 900 is fuel injected and has an ECU, but it does not have the immobilizer. Those appeared in 02 (if I recall correctly)
Title: Re: 2001 M750 carb model ... No Immobilizer, right?
Post by: motoxmann on August 02, 2012, 07:51:10 AM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 02, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
At least you haven't talked about issues your 'breaks' not 'breaking'

I would very much hope that nobody's brakes are breaking at all :p