Ducati Monster Forum

(http://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/577102_424043754319025_1763323466_n.jpg)

crappy PS work, but just thinking on paper

ST2-Stock
Not for long! :D

Well at least you could have used an ST2 pic.  :D

Hey Raux
I challenge you to leave it stock [laugh].
Ok, the only mods allowed are for practical, comfortable sports touring. ;D

yeah, yeah

trying to find an ST3 seat now. I also saw risers but not sure how they fit with the bars almost hitting the fairings on full lock now.
and trying to find the rear rack/bag that is compatible with the Nonfango side bags.

and need the straight kickstand and upgraded shifter (less close in to the motor)
and of course a better windscreen

ok so these are all standard 'fixes' and not mods

BUT that S2R swingarm just looks bad-ass on the bike. really updates the bike. that with maybe a MTS 1200 style exhaust

oh and upgraded forks with radial brakes
maybe 330 rotors

then the chip is need with a K&N filter...

oh I could go on and on and on

plus if i move back to the states I'll need a complete frame swap to a US VIN so might as well right? perfect time to do the swingarm

I reckon the later Y spoke wheels would look great as well, a little less VFR! If your gonna go the whole hog and do the front end you could tie in the matching front wheel!

HeliBars would be the way to go!...I have heard some using convertibars, but not with much success...

as far as compatibility with Nonfango, not much at all out there, as I run into the same thing with the Nonfango's on my Gran Canyon....currently I am looking for a new closing mechanism for my Nonfango topbox that I got for my Gran Canyon from a guy that took it off his Cagiva Navigator, but the key snapped off in the lock cylinder and I jacked the mechanism up opening it up after the fact...so you either have to pony up and get Givi or some other company as a whole system.


so when are you going to put in the Ducati Designs headlight kit from Paul Gellar under that mode of thinking then?

Seriously, I reckon, ECU tune, open airbox, dialed cams (Brad might have specs?), maybe pull out the base gaskets or hicomp pistons and 999/1100 brake master cylinder and braided lines.
More power for hi speed touring and improved brakes.

oh for sure braided lines. these are mush

*must. they prevent mush.

I picked up a new chip from a dude in Slovakia on e-bay for about $45 shipped.  They're either knock-offs, or he found a warehouse full of them somewhere. Either way, it made a huge difference on my '99 ST2. Runs better, stronger, no more stumbles at low RPM's and the fan kicks in a little sooner. Best upgrade I've ever made and inexpensive, too.

This is the dude: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-ST2-Eprom-Chip-for-Open-Exhaust-965056AAA-for-Complete-Exhaust-assembly-/160879492770?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item25752a3ea2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-ST2-Eprom-Chip-for-Open-Exhaust-965056AAA-for-Complete-Exhaust-assembly-/160879492770?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item25752a3ea2)

thanks.

looks like a great deal. and yes, i get that nasty sputtering in the 3k rpm range

(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577102_424043754319025_1763323466_n.jpg)

a bit more complete on the concept

Well wife signed off on the first part...

swingarm could be on the way soon  [Dolph]

minor adjustments coming

going to go with 916 era 3 spoker on the rear

will try to keep the ST2 stock can look but only on the left side if it fits with the swing arm

not upgrading the front for now either.

I put a few "parts wanted' posts for the project. so if you think you have something to help with the project, check them out.

Swingarm is here  ;D

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/r90/947099_538078846248848_58071457_n.jpg)

OMG that looks like so much fun.

I know you've been talking about relocating from DE back to USA.... 

Are you intending to ship the ST2 one piece at a time?

Looks like destroyed evidence.  Had to be a part of it.  he he.  What day are you thinking would be best to finish the job?

I'm packing most of it up today.
need the garage back

still working on ideas of color

red frame with new corse paintwork
black frame with yellow bodywork
red frame with pearl white

This:

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/7163_538417932881606_799820674_n.jpg)

Exhaust location?

Single stock on left side likely termi if i can find on
i need to increase the diameter of the midpipe

If you find mirrors with signals as pictured for an ST, please let me know --I've been looking for something exactly like that for some time...

 ;)

(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1605_540821875974545_1242980008_n.jpg)

Well the plans are forming in my head.

Repaint, red frame with pearl white body
S2R swingarm. not sure of the color yet, suggestions?
CF rear swingarm hugger painted matt black
996/998 5 spoke rims (only 5spokers with front speedo drive)
Radial fork lowers with radial calipers
braided brake lines
radial master cylinders
upgraded clutch slave (suggestions for easier pull?)
zero gravity sport touring windscreen clear
single sided custom exhaust in stock left side location
upgraded chip
bmc or k&N air filter
aluminum fan blade
blanked front turn signal spacers
LED turn signals on mirrors
LED rear turn signals
ST3 seat

nice touch with the red frame and white body, the best color combo IMO.
so, are you moving to the OKC area then so i can one day see this beauty in person?

RED! http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34965.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34965.0)

That might work.
There's enough bodywork to compensate

yes i will be in okc in 11 days
stuff should arrive in august
i will need help on finding paint shop etc

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/999333_542506045806128_1930548480_n.jpg)

Motor is ready to ship.

Looks like thatll work great! 

I'm looking at GSXR and ZX10R mirrors, i'll need to find some to test them

Nice. I'm starting to wonder if the EVO mirrors with Oberon extenders might work:
http://motowheels.com/i-6922671-oberon-mirror-extender-kit-ducati-1098-1198-848.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6922671-oberon-mirror-extender-kit-ducati-1098-1198-848.html)

Not the cheapest option, mind you...

won't work
spacing is different
the st2 uses 60 mm I think
the 848 45 mm I think

 An adapter plate would be easy to fab..........

true but not look so smooth i think

unless it is set with recessed screw kinda of attachment.....perhaps bang out an idea with Monsterlover for milling something out?

not sure, when everything gets here I'll do some measurements and photos

I will be watching this thread closely since I picked up the 98 ST2.

I'm sure you'll have some ideas I can steel as I will likely rebuild mine within the next year.


I vote for red on red, although the pearl white on red frame looks pretty sharp as well.


On my ST2 the previous owner painted it red, but it is a really bad job. I'm going to have the bodywork repainted this winter and was thinking black with gold graphics, which would go nicely with the gold (champagne) frame.

I thought about the yellow or red, just to get noticed on the roads.
But I think the pearl white will as well and not be so obvious to the police.

super psyched

Bike is officially registered!

now just have to rebuild it  :-X

Raux, your ST 2 concept is amazing to me. I'm not able to do that sort of stuff and really would like to have a faired sport tourer

Got cash? I‘ll work one up for you

Not sure yet. I need to build a garage and my wife thinks we
need to redo the kitchen and bathrooms in the house we just
bought

Any updates?

I need some inspiration.

After a trip from Ontario, out to Colorado/New Mexico and back on my 98 ST2 (which ran flawlessly) it's time to start the rebuild.

ran into issues with the move.

but expect to start soon

looking for 998 5 spokers for the build.

Frame and swingarm are in paint shop, graphivs ordered, body to soon follow. Going for sure with Pearl white with red frame and swingarm. Graphics are modern ducati fonting like off 1098. I will post graphics I made later. Rims to be marchesini gold colored standard 3 spokers.

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906407_777186715707693_5640608368429224727_n.jpg?oh=4dc3f0c72e33b128c73ff611a7112196&oe=552CB3EA)

 [popcorn]

Need some help, my paint shop cant find the mix for the Ducati Pearl white. Anyone know where to get a formula and not just the code

Just paint it whatever Pearl White you like.

it doesn't have to be the Genuine Ducati Pearl White^© , does it?

What paint brand? ICI Auto-Color should have a formula.

I used a Mercedes pearl white on a Monster. Wasn't trying to match anything.

The issue is cost. Apparently the 2009 ducai pearl white is a two stage and evrything else I find is 3 stage. 100 diff on price

If the Ducati color is two stage it really isn't a 'pearl'. It might have some pearl tint in the mix. Probably why it doesn't have the 'presence' of the other colors on the market. The other tints subdue the appearance.

You get the best appearance with a 3 stage job.

Paint...particularly pearls are expensive, and even more so since the incident in Japan several years ago shut down the manufacturing of most of the pearls used in our paint. I'm not sure if the supply chain is caught up yet.

What's a hundred bucks break down to in the overall cost of the project?

 ^what he just said!

Perhaps Raux was looking for the matte pearl?

FWIW, the matte pearl looks really neat, but it gets dirty *really* easy, and it loves that dirt, and will fight like a badger to keep it.

500 vs 600 is the price diff. ? The stock 09 monster I have is the pearl white. Im goign to take its seat cover to the shop next week.

Gonna try gsxr mirrors with indicators, and bmw f800st clear rear signals to update turn signals. Thoughtabout blanking old front turn signala but gonnna try and turn them into white driving lights.

 [popcorn]

Bmw rear turn signals are a go. Minor trimming of tabs but should mount up easily and really update style.

Raux, do you have any new photo's to show

Crap, I was pretty certain the gsxr mirrors were the right size through a bunch of crossmreferncing. Nope. They are 45mm mounts. The ST2 uses 60mm mount.
So if you have any other duciati these will work and if the mount angle is right, I, m going to go look at VFR mirrors next.

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10451908_830781226978607_3276348287590157217_n.jpg?oh=326ce75a1bda6db6cb51c04127e9aa1d&oe=55565636)


The lower part has been cleared the rest is getting graphics before clear

Tasty 👍

Can nothing go right on this thing. Have a cannot get the damn 41mm nut off the swingarm I bought. Cant remove the stripped screw are the bar end. Cant cant cant.

Right bar ordered. Steel sockets ordered. Gonna beat this crap

can't get the sprocket carrier nut off?  had that myself.  i drilled a series of holes through more than one and split it with a cold chisel.

Ugh another part to buy?

Awesome, found shop that got the nut off! New right handlebar on the way. Back on track.

So little bit more to go. Swingarm is on, most of the interior stuff is done. Still need to finish up the front wiring. Airbox is a wierd thing. The stock st2 box is really two small boxes. So different than the new monster box which has the single large chamber.  Everyone says the top was the limiting factor and to open it up, but I want all weather touring, plus I believe that creating airflow parallel to airfilter at higher speeds cant be good.... so out comes dremel, opened up center and effectively doubled the airbox size. Now to see if theory is right.  Gel cell battery didnt have stock mounting clip holder ridge so have to fab up a new clip mount. Ooo and mts1200 exhaust bits here. Brand new stuff! Anyone need a mts1200 oem computer, cat and front header?

Great thread.
I saw something similar in my brother's 2001 M900Sie airbox. It was like there was a dividing wall/floor running horizontal making a "two storey" airbox. It had a 2-3 inch hole connecting the airflow of the upper and lower chamber. Was it like that?

I thought of doing the same, uniting the whole volume.

No its a vertical split below the airfilter. A tiny little drain hole was the only opening between the two sides.

Plus have the dp chip in so need the extra air volume

Also, anyone have spare rubber plug, clutch side, that go into the s2r swingarm where the shock mount bolt goes. Mine only came with the chainside one.

(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/11182181_870681399655256_8216955230415570934_n.jpg?oh=1203200d5d415187fa2fade90bbbe4ad&oe=55D0BA84)

That's like one of those pics where some hot chick is taking naked selfies in her room where shit us all over the floor. [laugh]

Yep, worse yet was the pic from the opposite direction, old mattress that I need bulk trash to pick up.

Yeah, you can see the wall down the middle of the airbox. Never looked in one before. Is it for noise? So you cut it out so each velocity stack has the draw of the whole airbox on each intake stroke, cool. Interested to see how she goes.

Interesting....

All 3 of our STs (2-'02,1-'01) do not have a split air box as shown.

Just one large box.

To allow for some weather protection and a more open box, we just cut out the back half of the cover. 

I can grab a photo if you'd like.

Nice progress.  [Dolph] [thumbsup]

Hmm, this is 98 euro spec.

The way the frame and swingarm tie together with colour and material design is so nice.
That's a special ST.

Thanks. Im hopinng the bronze wheels flow with the red and white

Is there any easy way to put that dang retainer clip on the rear eccentric?

Man..... not too much longer and it will be on the road again!!! And to think the last time I saw it, it was completely apart!

Ugh. So apparently the 748 brake hanger doesnt like the mts110 brake rotor. Thought I lost a spacer and after research found the later bikes with the magets on the rotor have a cutout on their hangers to make room for them. So, its either drill out magnets, change brake holder for one that has cutout but speedo holder, or buy a other rotor to fit. Hmmm have to check spare part stock...

But at least I found the right tool for the retainer clip today. Now I can take it on and off easily

Ugh. Sooo anyone trying this. The 748 uses a smaller rotor than s2r or mts. Off comes the fixed hanger. And on goes the s2r hanger. But finally rear wheel is on.  .

And drilling out rotor magnets sucks.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/1ceb7e8f73ff36e744ba915895ff69d4.jpg)

I'll admit I was a little sceptical of the white paint. But now that it's all coming together, that's pretty bad ass. What's the plan with the wheels? White 5 spoke March.. would look nice. Are the fairings going back on as well ?

Lookin good man!  Ill have to see it in person when im down that way for tech school.  You should take a few more photos though... like a side and front shot.

I would love to be able to afford new wheels but doubt it, would like 5 spokes in black or gold. Right now is to ssee how the bronze wheels go with the pearl white with red with gold accents.

It will be a full bodied sport tourer with saddle bags and I just found a set of nonfango top case mounts as well. Seat was modified as well for 2 up, added a small ridge between me and wifes seat to keep her from sliding forward.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/02c03d8970a17beb40099d722bc62b60.jpg)

 [thumbsup]

Neato

Looking good!!!   [thumbsup]


I can't help but think that the wheels need to be red.   [evil]

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/c810cf0925d44831adbf9c494dde08f3.jpg)

The mts1200 exhaust can is going to look awesome. Red wheels....too much, thought abouf black but liking the bronze

The white looks bloody great Raux, nice work  [thumbsup]

Nice MGB too.

Looks great.
Wheel colour is a good match. Colour scheme could be a special addition oem option it looks that right. Good work.

Thanks. A few things left. Swapping goldline masters from the monster. Front calipers, clutch brake fluids, chain. New rotor bolts on the way, lost them in the move? And of course taking it to exhaust shop for custom build. But, she did start!!!

MGB is kids... original condition, no rust, 78

 [drool] Looking fricken awesome!  Cant wait to hear it run.... and to see photos from the first ride on it back in the states...

Realise what it reminded me of. It's a modern, sophisticated (and good looking) sports tourer harking back to the 750 Paso Limited Edition.
They should build an 1100 Evo version (or even 1200) and steal sales from the VFRs (again).

Yep!

Love it!

 [thumbsup]

Finally have nonfango rear topbox mounts....now to find a topbox that fits and get it painted

Ok clutch, brakes, and all little details set. Going to exhaust shop in the morning. Shouldnhave completed bike tomorrow to tkae photos

Ok exhaust is done, but not as perfect as I wanted. But stock exhaust fits as well. The mts exhaust sits too far back but had to be to give ground clearance. Bike rides nice. Speedo not working?

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/25/0d75b264681641904b4ecfb7b12ec32b.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/25/f06ece6aaf76f09a981d1384a24e23f0.jpg)

Neato [thumbsup]

That's so well done it looks OEM.

C'mon Ducati, build a stroked 1100 Evo to 1200 for a long legged gait as a sports tourer. Give it a big air box with ram air for 110 hp and 85 Ft/lbs.

Very nicely done  [thumbsup]

Check the cable and also check to see if the tabbed ring in the wheel was installed after the wheel powdercoating.

Thanks. It works slow like its geared wrong or slipping. I switched from kmh to mph speedo, could that be issue?

Ok thinking I have a 916 speedo and it has different gearing for speedo drive than st2.

If that's the case a drive from the SBK should work. I wasn't aware they used different ratios.

x amount of ground speed is just that, but I could see the scale of it being different presentation wise. I've never seen a KPH speedo up close to compare. Assuming sweep is the same, I'd think it would just be a matter fitting the numbers in the right places. At the same time though, I could see a little gear in there somewhere being a shade different, enough to throw it off.

I wouldn't think switching from Kmh to Mph should make a difference.

I had to switch my ST4 speedo from Mph to Kmh when I bought it in the states and brought it north of the border. I rode it for a couple weeks with the Mph speedo before the swap and I noticed no difference.

Still have the mph one?

So realized I never wrapped up the mods.
848 low projector beam swap
Brembo goldline masters
St4 braided f brake line
696 braided clutch line
Zero gravity SR clear screen
Amber led f turn signals with amber lens delete
Larger horn
K&N filter
Dp chip
Custom 2 into 1 exhaust with mts1200 end can
S2r swingarm
748 r wheel
S2r braided r brake line
Carbonworld r s2r hugger
Custom seat work, more curved front, ridge for pillion
 white pearl paint
Red frame and swingarm
Bmw clear rear turn signals

Would you mind expanding on the 848 low projector beam swap?

I'm curious what it entails and how much improvement it is over stock?

Straignt swap, even used st2 cut off piece, the connector is bigger so you need to make room for it in the dust cover, I just cut up the harness side to flatten it. Also for the 98 I have the front speedo cable, which may or may not be an issue at this point. Honestly cant compare cause I cant remember the look before. Put an 848 next to your st2 and compare. Its a more robust lamp I know that.. the other issue is of course cutting up an 848 lamp assembly to get projectoe. Inhave the high beam available which I think is the same minus the cutoff.

Sweet. Thank you.  [thumbsup]

1st in custom bikes at local show. New trophy on shelf.

 [thumbsup]

Ha..... thats awesome!   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Rode first time at night, 848 light is bright and good pattern.

Finally figured out fuel tank leak, overfill hose on incorrectly.

Congrats!  On all of it!  [thumbsup]

Ok, decided to open the air  box a bit. Cut a hole in the front above the 2 snorkels effectively tripling the front opening and keeping back to still direct air down into the filter. Wow what a diff. Intake growl is cool, power boost is even  better

Cool.
From articles/dyno tests I've read, that certainly seems to remove an obstruction to breathing. It's a decent sized looking airbox from your pics.

Been riding the st2 for awhile now. Got back on the monster now with bars and slowr throttle cam... I out did myself. 696 is so tiny and weak, if I could get st2 suspension dialed in better,... its heavy but it just goes like stink with open box, k&n filter, dp chip and new exhaust.

If I could get 696 lightness and handling and st2 power...hmmm maybe modern engine ss sl is next build.

Waiting on clutch slave parts. So took 696 out. I forgot the 6k power hit. Lol.

So maybe a Supersport with worked 1000/1100 motor? Be a hot project.

I, m thinking 748s with multi 1100ds

Cool. [thumbsup]

Superlight white/yellow

what a fantastic job you've done. Now get down to DFW and show that thing off while we drink beers and discuss transforming my S4R into something similar.  I have a room, AC, beer, food and cable.......

When and where. Im on vacation

How long are you on vacation for,?  I get back Thursday night.

I can do next weekend. Do u guys get together on weekends

Some of us do.  I'll ask and post to see what kind of assembly we can put together. 

Sent you a pm

Good ride today. Finally fixed my clutch slave, fule leak and added a car charger port. Also put on rear rack I picked up. Just need nonfango rear hard bag and a shock wrench and shes ready for 2 up touring

 [thumbsup]