Title: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: nedliv on September 19, 2012, 05:53:08 PM Hey guys. I'm trying to install clip-ons onto my 05 Ducati Monster 620. I want to install them on top of the stock triple tree. It's a one piece clamp. There doesn't seem to be enough room above the forks, so will I have to raise the forks? Or does the triple tree get lowered? Here's a pic showing the clip-on right next to the fork.
(http://i.imgur.com/Fdtyv.jpg) Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: DarkStaR on September 19, 2012, 06:13:26 PM ... There doesn't seem to be enough room above the forks, so will I have to raise the forks? Or does the triple tree get lowered? Same thing. If you want to install those clip-ons above the triple (without buying a bunch of other parts), you're going to have to raise the fork legs through the triple (lowering the triple on the fork legs). Doing this WILL AFFECT handling. Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: nedliv on September 19, 2012, 06:24:18 PM do I just loosen both clamps and push the triple tree down? is that safe to do without a bike stand?
Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: stopintime on September 19, 2012, 06:43:21 PM That much lowering is too much, IMO.... At least very close to what can be done within safe margins.
I suggest looking for other clip ons. Over the triple - you can find them with a lower clamp Under the triple - with various length risers Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: nedliv on September 19, 2012, 06:45:45 PM if I wanted to install these underneath, can I safely pull the triple tree off without a bike stand?
Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: stopintime on September 19, 2012, 06:53:37 PM The 3-4 people holding the bike would have to be quite strong [cheeky]
So, no, triple tree front stand or lifting it with straps to the roof or something similar. EDIT (sorry): yes, the top triple can be removed, but you may need a special tool for the center nut if it has to come off. I can't remember if it has to. Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: JoeP on September 19, 2012, 06:55:22 PM I've mounted clip-ons above the triple on my monster 600. I raised the fork legs (effectively lowering the front) so there was about 1" of fork leg above the triple. The bike handled fine even on the track. If you're concerned about changing the handling you could also lower the rear to compensate. I used a triple tree stand and it was a pretty easy process. I would not do it without one.
Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: nedliv on September 19, 2012, 07:14:27 PM there is a bottom triple tree though, won't that keep everything in place and make a stand unnecessary?
Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: DarkStaR on September 19, 2012, 08:11:35 PM there is a bottom triple tree though, won't that keep everything in place and make a stand unnecessary? Without the top triple on, and with weight on the front wheel, the weight of the bike will cause the top fork legs to flex out of the correct position. It'll be pretty difficult to get the top triple back on. Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: bigiain on September 19, 2012, 11:06:29 PM Quote from: darkstar Doing this WILL AFFECT handling. That much lowering is too much, IMO.... At least very close to what can be done within safe margins. +1. Take care lowering the front end - the "good advice" seems to be don't make changes more that 5mm (~1/4") at a time, and test ride carefully to make sure you haven't changed the steering response more than you're comfortable with - or worse, to the point of instability, Monsters tankslapping off bumps isn't unheard of with even only minor changes to front suspension geometry. Most of the "horror stories" I've heard are about warmed up 900 Monsters slapping under hard throttle, so your 620 might not be at risk - but I _strongly_ recommend gradually approaching that extra ~20 mm of fork length rather than doing it all at once. I'm pretty sure you'll be quite unhappy if you just slide the forks through enough to have those clipons clamp up completely above the top triple - you're looking at 20mm or more of fork movement. That's considered quite radical. Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: nedliv on September 20, 2012, 12:08:02 AM Interesting... I think I will install the clipons below the triple. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Not enough space on forks for my clip-ons Post by: CRASH! on September 25, 2012, 12:56:16 PM Good luck mounting those below the triple. I've seen a couple of bikes set up that way, but the bars are VERY low.... Not many people want that riding position.
You're better off getting the Moto Wheels bars that have a thin clamp for mounting above the bars or getting clip-ons with rise. I just learned that Cycle Cat is back in business. Their bars used to be considered the cat's meow [laugh] Cheers, Don |