Title: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: DucNaked on October 19, 2012, 07:19:38 PM http://xtremesportsphotography.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0QAK01AY080000&po=0&pc=28 (http://xtremesportsphotography.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0QAK01AY080000&po=0&pc=28)
(http://i.imgur.com/cDTH1.gif) Man.... A lot went wrong there. [thumbsdown] Hate to be the guy in the corvette. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: He Man on October 20, 2012, 12:53:09 AM Again,why i think there should be better and more stringent training for motorcyclist.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Grappa on October 20, 2012, 01:02:09 AM Looked at the photos one by one. Talk about target fixation. Think it's frame 22 where the guy looks like he lands on his feet. For a moment.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Ducatamount on October 20, 2012, 04:00:01 AM He ran out of lean angle on the pig.
The guy in the Vette did what he could. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Barney on October 20, 2012, 06:55:05 AM Looks to me like he touched a hard part or something and stood it up as a result. prob shouldn't have been paying so much attn to the camera and a little more to the road iyam.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: scduc on October 20, 2012, 07:01:22 AM I support riders rights, but who honestly thinks it was the cars fault? cuz I have a feeling that some lawyer will try to prove the driver of the car was at fault.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: derby on October 20, 2012, 07:25:15 AM I support riders rights, but who honestly thinks it was the cars fault? cuz I have a feeling that some lawyer will try to prove the driver of the car was at fault. <sarcasm> no, it's the photographer's fault!!! </sarcasm> [roll] Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: DucNaked on October 20, 2012, 07:42:06 AM I don't see any argument that could be made to make this the cars fault.
The rider was distracted hamming it up for the camera. Then to me looks like you guys have said ran out of angle scraped some bits, had an oh shit moment. This is one of the best examples of target fixation I've seen. As soon as he sees the car he straightens out and drives right into it. He's really late on the brakes too, not sure it would have helped anyway. You guys see that the airbag in the vette went off? Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Grampa on October 20, 2012, 07:51:52 AM Greg Louganis buys a cruiser. The russian judge in the vette gives him low marks.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: DucNaked on October 20, 2012, 08:00:50 AM Greg Louganis buys a cruiser. The russian judge in the vette gives him low marks. [clap] [clap]Thanks I needed that! Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: militar3rd on October 20, 2012, 08:16:51 AM Dayum, that's one nasty wreck. Bad day for both of them.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Jimmy6tring on October 20, 2012, 09:21:16 AM That sucks, hate to be either of them. Is that a tire track that old timer follows all the way into the opposite lane? I wonder how often this happens at that corner.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: hunduc on October 20, 2012, 09:45:06 AM too bad photos 1087-1092 are missing. the bike somehow turns around and loses the front wheel.
the flight position in 1093 is impressive. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: fastwin on October 20, 2012, 10:21:11 AM Note to self: don't wave at photographers in the middle of a turn when you are riding a cruiser with no ground clearance.
Hopefully no one got hurt. 2nd theory is the cruiser had a Duc MotoGP front end and the rider just lost it! [laugh] Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: BastrdHK on October 20, 2012, 03:44:54 PM corner entry was.....exactly what you would expect. It ripped the forks in half....looks violent....bad day indeed!
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: the_Journeyman on October 20, 2012, 03:58:16 PM I looked at the individual pics on the photog's website when it was posted on the local forum. Pic 19, you can see the front wheel & tire were ripped completely off the spokes. Ducatamount was right on lean angle. Just before the apex, you can see he's all but touching the pavement on the inside. Post impact, it looks like he could stick the landing, but he lands hard right on his ass. The driver was either distracted or totally misjudged the corner. It could be one of the many decreasing radius turns, and he just went in too hot. Once he was in trouble, he certainly fixated on the 'Vette though, he stood the bike up before he ever grabbed the brakes.
JM Rider was in better shape than you might think. only thing likely broken was a wrist, rest is just rash and lots of bruising. I'm thinking that sitting might be an issue for some time for the rider. Driver of the 'Vette was fine. Airbag deployed on the 'Vette, and that with the fiberglass damage (front fender exploded when bike hit, and there's probably a lot of door & rear fender damage too) along with the minor off-road excursion, the 'Vette is likey totaled, not to mention the bike. That's gonna be an expensive insurance claim. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Dry Martini on October 21, 2012, 08:11:33 AM Again,why i think there should be better and more stringent training for motorcyclist. All the training in the world does not fix STUPID! Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Raux on October 21, 2012, 08:18:13 AM Again,why i think there should be better and more stringent training for motorcyclist. training.. or just not give M endorsements to idiots Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: MadDuck on October 21, 2012, 01:09:26 PM <sarcasm> no, it's the photographer's fault!!! </sarcasm> [roll] Actually you probably aren't far off the mark. ;D In over 20 years of flying hang gliders I found the greatest contributing factor to accidents and crashes was the presence of a camera. I bet you that is significantly valid for motorcycles as well. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: 2WheelBuddha on October 22, 2012, 12:39:07 PM Ugggggg...that is ugly! I've driven that road (US 129 / Tail of the Dragon) in our vette, it's a FUN road but you've got to keep your eyes on the road, the next curve, etc. There are photographers all along the road, wife and I ran it this past August, there were at least 4 photographers I noticed along the way (probably more like 6). Every picture they took of me I was looking at the next corner...had a few close calls with bikes coming close to me, some dummies were riding the CENTER LINE through the corners...crazy. Of course, they were cruisers. I would like to ride it on my Duc someday but I've gotta tell ya, with all the other folks on that road that *don't* know how to ride, it gives me hesitation. Granted, we were on it on a Saturday, next time it will be on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: scduc on October 22, 2012, 01:09:38 PM All the training in the world does not fix STUPID! Exactly, not knowing age or experience, you have to chalk that one up to stupidity. My guess is that guy probably has 100k of riding. Mid 50's in age, no amount of training can stop this, unless we can train riders to pay attention to only the road and that's never going to happen. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Novelo on October 22, 2012, 07:55:47 PM That sweet apple bottom is going to be hurting in the AM. +1 for the Vett guy did all he could.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Johnny5 on October 23, 2012, 08:38:38 AM training.. or just not give M endorsements to idiots You know what's sad? When I moved from NY to CT a few years back I stopped riding and my NY MC license didn't come over. I had to retake the tests for my CT MC license.It was quite an eye-opening experience, because the evaluator passed a WHOLE LOT of people that I sure as heck would have failed. I just kept thinking to myself "Man, I hope these guys are never riding around me". Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Ducatamount on October 23, 2012, 09:07:03 AM Actually you probably aren't far off the mark. ;D In over 20 years of flying hang gliders I found the greatest contributing factor to accidents and crashes was the presence of a camera. I bet you that is significantly valid for motorcycles as well. Hmmm... I think you are right. I have worked many winter seasons in the ski industry and my wife is a nurse in a hospital. We both noticed an increase in injuries with the advent of the Go-Pro. Showing off for the camera will get you in trouble. ;) Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: coduc on October 23, 2012, 09:41:40 AM It sure looks to me like he comes off the brakes for a while, between img 1083 and 1086. I wonder how long that was, and not sure why he would have stopped braking! sucks for sure, good thing the guy didn't come through the windshield and hit the driver of the vette, that surely would've sucked!
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Drunken Monkey on October 23, 2012, 03:18:04 PM Man, I hope he recovers in time for Christmas.
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: lethe on October 23, 2012, 04:34:37 PM Hmmm... I think you are right. I actually slowed down because of my Go Pro because I feel like I'm being monitored to be critiqued laterI have worked many winter seasons in the ski industry and my wife is a nurse in a hospital. We both noticed an increase in injuries with the advent of the Go-Pro. Showing off for the camera will get you in trouble. ;) Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: ducatiz on October 23, 2012, 06:14:32 PM Again,why i think there should be better and more stringent training for motorcyclist. Alternatively, in order to get a license for a car, you have to ride a motorcycle for 2 years first. Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Rameses on October 25, 2012, 07:55:02 AM I'll just leave this here... harley crash at deal's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZFpIpaFMlc#) Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: jaxduc on October 25, 2012, 09:11:09 AM I think he found "the GAP"
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: OT on October 25, 2012, 02:13:28 PM "...let's get out of here...they're gonna beat our asses......" [laugh]
Funniest part is that the wing man almost followed the flight leader over the edge [clap] Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: lazylightnin717 on October 25, 2012, 04:29:52 PM Cracks me up the camera man just peaces out [laugh]
Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: booger on October 27, 2012, 11:30:42 PM LOL baby-boomer faceoff [laugh]
we're going to see a lot of that in the very near future Title: Re: Deals Gap wreck caught on film Post by: Slide Panda on October 29, 2012, 07:00:11 AM Killboy got the remains of the bike on a wrecker
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